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    AMD new EPYC Milan review from Anandtech

    I do not know the large S&P 500 business scene, but as a small business owner myself, I would argue that consolidation of most cores to one 1U -rack is very important to small and medium size companies. The rent of 1U -rack at the city centre (inside the bedrock and backed up daily to the cloud...
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    AMD Epyc pricing after Zen3 release in the end of Q1

    I floated an idea that Intel might lower the prices of its most energy hungry part, because some buyer's (small buyers) do not calculate the total cost of ownership--only the investment price of the parts. The problem with Intel is the pricier mobo (4 socket Supermicro X11QPH+-P) and the fact...
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    AMD Epyc pricing after Zen3 release in the end of Q1

    It seems that the prior DELL Canada leak of Epyc 7543 price was bogus, so I had to drop it from the list. The interesting thing right now is that the used Xeon prices have started moving. However, the variance of price of single processor, i.e. Xeon Platinum 8280, might vary 1000s of euros at...
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    AMD Misses Big CHANCE

    It seems that AMD is leaving the low end for Intel. It is suprising, but you can do pretty well with just the low end. In Finland we had Nokia, which was running a pretty tight ship producing low end mobiles. Finland is a very small country, but for a long time 15 years or so, Nokia's weight on...
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    AMD Epyc pricing after Zen3 release in the end of Q1

    Where Intel can currently give grief to AMD Zen2 -based system is at the low end 4p system. Alibaba.com has 16c Xeon Gold 5218 at 350 euros. The 4-socket motherboard is quite expensive (1268 eur VAT 0%) and 4-socket boot-up times are horrendous (ab. 15 minutes according to servethehome.com), but...
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    Your CPU progression

    6510 by MOS Technology 286 by Intel 486dx2 by Intel Pentium E2140 by Intel i7-3960x by Intel T9600 by Intel Core M-5Y31 by Intel
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    3 days to Epyc Zen3 launch--where is the price war b/w Xeon and Epyc???

    In article https://www.servethehome.com/intel-is-serving-major-xeon-discounts-to-combat-amd-epyc/ Patrick Kennedy claims that Intel is matching the price of Xeon to correspond AMD Epyc prices and this comes well below a thousand parts ordered. I agree with you that life cycle costs of a...
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    3 days to Epyc Zen3 launch--where is the price war b/w Xeon and Epyc???

    It is true that server market price elasticity of demand is fairly inelastic (according to 2015 paper server market price elasticity is -0.51 http://www.qyjohn.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/price-elasticity-enterprise.pdf ); it means that any price increase of 1 percent, the effect of demand is...
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    3 days to Epyc Zen3 launch--where is the price war b/w Xeon and Epyc???

    I would think that AMD's chip shortage is not as bad as people are saying. If we estimate that an average Xeon price is ab. USD 1000 (in the server market it was USD 538 in 2015), then Intel sells ab. 5 million Xeon chip per year (with USD 5,91 Billion server sales...
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    3 days to Epyc Zen3 launch--where is the price war b/w Xeon and Epyc???

    I have been intently following the prices of both Intel Xeon and AMD Epyc processors in the eve of Zen3 launch of Feb 15th. Xeon has an ability to have a maximum of 4P in one Supermicro X12 or X11 motherboard (they are said to be quite hard to boot and quite expensive Supermicro X11QPH+ costs...
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    AMD Epyc pricing after Zen3 release in the end of Q1

    There seems to be just a small price adjustment in Ebay.de in zen1 -parts, whereas Alibaba keeps on trucking with the same prices for 7502 and 7h12 originating probably from big server farms. The total power draw of chinese server market was 161 TWh in 2018, if one estimates 50% CPU and 50% GPU...
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    Zen 4 Ryzen 6000

    They probably can't get anymore speed inside the CCR, so the new DDR5 -lanes, which utilize the current IO-structure has to have 3-5 times per clock cycle to read the data from L3-caches and transfer the data thru IO-lanes to the DDR5. However there might be a physical limitation of how much...
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    Best Gaming CPU for $300

    OK. I don't know about that. My Celeron G4930 has a passmark of little over 2000. I have heard that AMD A6, which is about 25 % slower can bottleneck with GTX 1080ti, which in gaming i.e. Battlefield 1 is 6,5% slower than my RTX 2080. Who knows maybe my Witcher 3 would run over 100 fps in 4k, if...
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    amd apu

    I would refuse to give my money to Intel b/c they are l*zy a*ses. Even the new Rocket Lakes are FOURTEEN NANOMETERS and it is TWO THOUSAND TWENTYONE, hey!!! Take away the l*zy a*ses' monies and the technology will move forward, because Intel cannot move their product anymore. According to Intel...
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    Best Gaming CPU for $300

    I think that processor´s role in gaming is exaggerated. Basically you only need many cores, if you play strategy games such as Civilization VI (because computer turn time is reduced the more cores you have). I recently broke my old 8 core i7 5960x Asus X79 -motherboard, but I had one 1151-mobo...
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    amd apu

    From Alibaba. I imagine postage is cheap to anywhere in the world. newegg is ab. USD 93 more expensive https://www.newegg.com/p/1FR-0001-000M8?Description=4650g&cm_re=4650g-_-9SIAM4SCPC7901-_-Product&quicklink=true. In Finland we have 0 % import tariffs for Chinese purchased computer parts...
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    amd apu

    I was looking for the AMD's APUs as well, but to me the choice is so limited... However, you would be hard pressed to find any vanilla PCI graphic cards under 60 euros, so if you don't have an old GPU laying around, then you just have to pay. However, for email, word processing and such w/o any...
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    AMD Ryzen 5000 ‘Zen 3’ Desktop CPUs & X570 Motherboards Have High Failure Rates, Reports PowerGPU

    To me it is mind buggling how they manage to keep the air so pure, when they are UV burning the wafer in the production process. Typical bacterium is between 500 - 5000 nm, which is pretty small, when you try to filter it out from the dirty replacement air coming from the outside. There are...
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    AMD Ryzen 5000 ‘Zen 3’ Desktop CPUs & X570 Motherboards Have High Failure Rates, Reports PowerGPU

    It would seem that 7nm production process is still not mature enough and it feels strange that they don't have a test bench to test that the processor actually boots up or what ever bios level test that it is reporting correctly. There will be huge problems, when chinese server farms become...
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    Zen 4 Ryzen 6000

    If anybody can wait 'til 2022... go ahead. My only problem is that I am bound by SP3 and do not intend to upgrade to SP5 or Epyc Genoa.
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    AMD Allegedly Launching Ryzen 5000 Zen 3 Desktop CPU With 5 GHz+ Clocks, Announcement Planned For 15th February

    Like you can see on AMD's roadmap graph. I intend to buy a gigabyte MZ72-HB0 -mobo and stick two pieces of Epyc 7543 -processors on it, but have been unable to get my hands on any of them. Ryzen 5000 or threadripper do not work for me, because they are 1P -processors and gigabyte MZ72-HB0...
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    AMD Allegedly Launching Ryzen 5000 Zen 3 Desktop CPU With 5 GHz+ Clocks, Announcement Planned For 15th February

    However... there might be some(?) Ryzen 5950's prior to that, if they f*ck up their production of Epyc 7713s and are stuck up with a chiplet w/ only 2 working CCDs
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    AMD Allegedly Launching Ryzen 5000 Zen 3 Desktop CPU With 5 GHz+ Clocks, Announcement Planned For 15th February

    I was in the understanding that Zen 3 was postponed due to covid-19 to late Q1/2021 release.
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    AMD Allegedly Launching Ryzen 5000 Zen 3 Desktop CPU With 5 GHz+ Clocks, Announcement Planned For 15th February

    It would certainly be curious for AMD to release both Ryzen and Epyc Zen 3 -versions at the same time. I always thought that Epyc will be released first in the same vein as Nvidia always releases Titans first to reap maximum profit and only at the later date those GPUs that have a lower profit...
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    AMD Epyc pricing after Zen3 release in the end of Q1

    There was an interesting posting about Canadian DELL's leaked pricing of new Epyc 7543, 7713 and 7763, which seems pretty aggressive to me in view of AMD's dominance in server processor technology (albeit not in market share) at the moment. I guess this reflects. I have collected some prices of...
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