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A Russian doesn’t like the press. Color me shocked.

We know that the Chinese economy slowed more than expected in the last quarter. It's hard to get accurate reports, but the recent report about manufacturing shrinking suggests that. Also, as Uvaman2 pointed out above, the Chinese government is on an "anti-corruption" (read- enforced loyalty)...

Appears to be at the same price at Newegg, as well.

For those with a nearby Microcenter- in store, $249.99 and another $30 off of a compatible motherboard if bought together.

Sorry, yes, I was comparing the m.2 versions of both. The question basically boiled down to price vs. performance, and there seem to be clear answers here.

Looking to pick up a 1TB m.2 drive for an sff build for my wife. The 970 evo is currently running at $220 at microcenter when picking up other components, while the 860 is running at $130 direct from Samsung. Is the improvement from the 970 worth the price difference vs. the 860?

Went much smaller than most people, but I wanted to pick up a wraith spire hsf , so this saved a few bucks.

A lot of Best Buys are authorized service centers. I also had an S0 with the swollen battery, but that was a general manufacturing defect and there's a whole policy about replacing the screens even out of warranty.

Curious whether you've tried to put in any sort of fan on the motherboard side. The CPU itself is obviously fine, but the entire motherboard side now has no air except for when the PSU fan is on. Are you worried about the components there?

I have a Gen 1 that recently had the screen pop off. Since they did extend the warranty, I went in and suggested that maybe the battery was at fault. No idea whether it was or not, but they did replace for free (possibly with a used watch, but it sure looked new).

Not helpful- a fan blows a lot more air closer to the blade tips, which would be outside of the heat sink. That’s why people (are/were) so excited about the hslp-48; with larger dimensions you could use a bigger fan.

Liquid- If you want to limit it to 4, I would probably skip one of the 120mm radiators, unless there's a particular reason to include them (I guess maybe some sort of bracket on a GPU and dual 120s, if that would fit/be advantageous?) But otherwise, I'd think everyone would just use a 240mm...

And the 6 heat pipe version?...

Not dondan, but it’s designed for both. A4, Sentry, and (if produced) the 2-4 fan proposed ncase spinoff, and some others, all have the HSLP’s height as the max height, so that’s where a lot of the discussion has been. The bigger question is whether dual fans (say, slim 120 on top and 92/120...

I'll just note about Cover A- if there's no really good reason to have the middle bar, get rid of it. Too many GPUs have venting holes in weird positions, and they sometimes line up with that middle bar. No reason to block vents if it's unnecessary.

Yes. If you haven't been following recently, the ideas is to have a fan bracket under the lid (if lying flat)/side panel (if standing up) that would hold two thin 120mm fans. Gpu would be next to the motherboard, like a Sentry, but facing the same way as the CPU. It would be possible to have...

FWIW- Wahaha360 confirmed that the case he's prototyping (~7 liter console style case with 2-4 15mm fans) will have a 48mm cooler height limit, so that's another possible case where owners would like this project. Innodisk is apparently working on 2666mhz VLP DDR4 with Samsung chips, which...

Problem is that there’s not a lot of room on an ITX board. Board dimensions are 170mm square, and we’re talking about a 120mm fan. Most boards have a row of connectors on the edge of the board, then two ram slots. Moving the fan over so that it doesn’t overhang the ram is getting very close to...

Any idea when they’ll be able to start doing some testing?

No- the fans that Woxys was referring to are 25mm fans made out of some new kind of plastic that is supposed to be much stronger. In turn, they can bring the tips of the fan blades much closer to the housing. That adds a little to the airflow, but supposedly also prevents air from flowing back...

Very nice deal! Looking forward to seeing results that include the 120mm fan. Do you already have the Strix z270-I? It looks to me like the z370-I is essentially the same thing, so you probably wouldn't need to test the latter.

Ej24- I don't know what kind of monitor you have, but have you tried a higher resolution? Curious what happens with gpu temps when you're more gpu limited.

While it might seem logical to put a larger fan with higher airflow on there, the majority of a fan's airflow happens near the tips of the blade. Because of that, using a 120mm fan is actually a bad idea- the fan is pushing more air, but less of it is going over the heat sink (hence dondan's...

As of Dondan's last update, he said that the Asus z270 board would actually work with his latest adjustments- we'll have to see, though.

To me, that's a question of what you're expecting people to do with this case and when (and when you're expecting to put it into production). First of all, Asus is set to release an AM4 board next month, so there will very possibly be a second board allowing that. Second, z390 is supposed to...

He said he finished the design and would order prototypes "next week" on August 4th. If he made that order sometime around the 9th, he won't be getting any protoypes until mid-late September.

1)I'm pretty sure those were all done on an open bench rather than inside the case. 2) In all of the fan under scenarios, pull beat push. Dondan didn't check the A12x15 under because he didn't have VLP ram available. It's worth noting that with the fan under, the heat sink would likely...

Fond memories of the P4 1.6a and 1.8a. They weren't really binned chip, and the FSB on both was a "quad pumped" 100mhz (so 400mhz total). But they were built on the same platform as the higher end chips in that line, and OCing the FSB to 133 basically gave you a significantly higher end chip...

Dondan is making this cooler so that it's usable with the A4 and the Sentry, so 48mm in height. The CPU base takes up height, as do the fins, and the fan has to go in between in a pull configuration. IIRC, a Noctua L9i is something like 23mm tall without a fan- that would be 48mm tall with a...

As noted above- only low profile fans. There obviously needs to be testing, but given the numbers and noise level, the Noctua A12x15 is almost certainly the one to go with.

Definitely pushing it in terms of GPU size though- I think that an MSI Aero 1070 will fit, but it's close. Certainly nothing in the 1080 range, even the Zotac minis.

Is that a 120mm fan in the first 2 latest renders with a fan? Looks like it's taking up the whole width of the fins, and IIRC 120mm was about the width of the fins. Is the last one 92mm or 100?

1) Still looking like you could have a Noctua A12x15 underneath with VLP Ram? 2) At one point you were suggesting that the new design would work with an Asus Z270i Strix. Does that still seem to be the case?

Cabblake- did you try doing EJ24's trick of using foam weatherstripping to act as a shroud for the CPU fan?

Most of the posts on VLP RAM have to do with dondan's planned HSLP-48 heatsink. The idea there is to have a 48mm tall heatsink and put the fan underneath the fins, pulling through. Among the options proposed is being able to use a 120mm fan, but doing so will mean that the fan conflicts with...

Received my $30 check today, in NY. Don't remember when I submitted the thing, but I never received any sort of rejection first. Purchased within the first week or so of release, from Microcenter, which thoughtfully provided an email receipt (bought in store, but there's no way I still had the...

Is ASUS doing an am4 itx board? I was under the impression that no one had heard of any such thing.

I think that the lack of slim blu-ray drives out there these days, and the absence of anyone making slim slot loading ones these days, points to skipping the ODD capability.

The LPX should work with the heatsink, but if you want to use a 120mm fan instead of a 92mm fan, you'll need VLP.

Doesn't look like much is going on here. mITX is getting ASRock and Gigabyte in the next few weeks, but mATX is basically being ignored. It seems like there's a general segmentation that's starting to occur, with the assumption that folks either want to go very small and therefore mITX or very...