not really.
besides that for ryzen its usually best to apply clocks/main timings/volt manually, most amds kits cant do xmp numbers like they can on intel,
e.g. 3600 kit like mine is XMP 14-16-16-16, but the AMP profile is 14-22-22-22, and when looking at anything above 3800 with 1:1 ratio, its...
guess some forget, we purchased a gpu, not "this-is-just-for-gaming" gpu.
and ppl even state there is stuff a gpu can do besides gaming, but seem to be fine if all those features/their settings all have to be combined in a gaming app.
gpu means graphics processing unit, not game processing...
@learners permit
easy: boost clocks are usually limited by power/voltage and temps, running the card on water allows for higher boost clocks,
and with chip variance, you might have one that likes to boost higher (without adding V)..
Strange bird
its fine, as you clearly dont understand the basics, as 3600 at cl 18 is still better than any lower speed with lower cl.
ignoring you most likely are gpu "bottlenecked", as many of gamers are, and probably didnt even care to tweak and tune your gpu, wasting gains of easily 5-10%...
Strange bird
without detailed info (e.g. ram-die) its not easy to tell if it can do 1800, as you want IF:ram ratio to be 1:1.
5000 series can always do 1800 on IF, so its really about having a certified kit (AMP 3600), or known (samsung) b-die (or equivalent) basically anything that does...
nothing we talked about is for cpu/pbo, unless stated, its for ram/bus settings.
your ocing the cpu with pbo to gain 1-5%, if your lucky, while wasting ~5-10% on sub-optimal ram/IF clocks that affect EVERYTHING, not just cpu speed,
and more important will produce bigger gains for memory/bus...
infinity fabric aka bus connecting everything. this should be run at 1800 mhz and 1:1 setting for IF:mem clk (so ram runs 3600) for max throughput.
the drop going below that speed is nothing any oc will make up for, especially if looking at ram R/W.
do a aida64 memory&cache bench and compare...
running ryzen below 1800/3600 on IF/ram is usually the biggest perf drop, not much what you get from pbo, ignoring that your still running the bus below its optimal clock,
slowing down everything that your doing on the pc..
pendragon1
worth finding out what die it is, and look for improvement (clock vs timings), as gains can be significant.
eg. i can easily do 16-16-16-16-32-48/16@1T, 320 RFC while using 1.35, and get much better perf than stock XMP/AMP profile (14-16-16-36-52/40) @1.45v
scoobert
little cheaper. any coil whine is mostly hig fps, capping should fix it.
worst case clear coat of nail polish over the coils seems to be the best DIY solution.. :D
sapphire
Asrock
pavel
have bought a few cards from Amazon warehouse (directly), try to look for open box/like new...
Strange bird
havent seen much benefit for the avg pbo user to use scalar of x4, +50 maybe 100mhz, and unless you have actually stability tested, i would go further than -5 for all cores,
not sure if there is a big diff on that vs me using 5800/5950.
set pbo to enabled (auto = disabled), with...
Anyone asking about asking access for something they dont already have, is usually not for proper stuff.
When i was temp. covering IT in large gov store, anytime anything close to not being kosher, i replied "let me just check with OPS mng.."
Never gotten a follow up mssg, asking why they didnt...
psy81
using things like AMP profile or DOCP (and what other brands name it), is considered ocing (ram/bus).
so far, using ryzen its better to manually set clocks/voltages/main timings (according to ram spec), and not those auto modes.
@owcraftsman
most XMP profiles will not work good on amd...
Not sure why ppl are worried about a few percent added on to cost on things that are a "want" (not "need"), while companies increased prices up to 5 times of what it cost before.
say if a gpu is 500 and im spending another 100, fine, but if same card now costs me 900-1000 to begin with, i wont...
i remember when i got my fist Iiyama, something around 25ms in worst case szenario, but a friend playing FPS in pvp had it in use already, one of the best monis i ever had (for that kind of tech).
Sycraft
except most of the time you arent going to use the full range, just because i can see a picture, doesnt make it good enough for some ppl to enjoy, and with most oleds being <75in, you dont have as much "coverage" (say using horseshoe formed sitting area), vs 75/85in, and higher end...
at least if i can go by past reviews i have seen, most ghosting seems to come from using the "max" for any of those "improvement" settings.
e.g. dialing it down 1 (sometimes 2 steps) can make a big difference, while not affecting use as much (outside gaming).
Maybe not.
But when i see 10y old hw being sold as "new" (marked by me for project, but was never used), i would check at least 3-4 reviews regarding panels used,
or if there are different V's released, so you dont end up with older tech, even if its just some value unit using a "previous" gen...
cant tell for last gen stuff as i havent been working in retail sales for a while now, but part of the training i had (mil channel) included talking to techs, one being the different life expectancy on organic leds,
and that to make up for the loss of blue (going out sooner), the other colors...
not sure how relevant ppi is to you, but why not look at some 48-55in tv"s?
i have the 50X90J mainly for size and vrr/120Hz refresh, but with 90 series and above using 10 bit panels, dont show color banding/motion issues and are color calibrated out of the box (for non-gaming), i prefer this...
60 Hz isnt bad, unless you need to work on high refresh (video) content.
while it might be different for some, i rather have synced 60 (g-sync or vrr), than anything above it thats only using v-sync. even with movies/videos its a better experience, especially on compressed/re-encoded stuff...
Asking lcd vs oled is like asking 2 door vs 4 door (car), and completely ignoring use.
while a 2 door sports car will probably be more fun than most 4 door station wagons, once you have to move more than 2 ppl and maybe a dog/bikes, it becomes more or less useless.
the same way i saw ppl...
I know its a while, but since i did get this as a result for websearch, i assume more will see this..
Seems some are getting the facts wrong.
PBO is an option to oc amd cpus, and NOT enabled by default. AUTO = disabled, per AMD, so no, it doesnt do anything if left on AUTO, and doing a proper...
except that i had the problem of non power on (and issues found on other) on my ultra, and i was able to fix it, not sure how thats not relevant.
and lots of issues are not limit to the master and exist across their amd lineup, as well as some info posted by others HERE, is either...
so I've been home the last couple month, and decided to narrow down the issues of the board (sudden reboots/cold boot etc), and research settings/tweak related stuff, especially since i had to build/rebuild a few rigs (3xxx + x570) in the past 2 month
5 different x570 boards from 3 different...
No, but seen too many ppl claiming problems just because they are not familiar/dont know details about things (like bios settings),
and like to exclude things like settings, to see whats the cause.
E.g. i've seen a "...tech for over 30ys.." with +10K post and pretty extensive knowledge about...
No its not.
Its to allow the UEFI to EMULATE a bios environment, nothing else. Enabling CSM then will allow for different options to appear/be selectable,
incl legacy/uefi oprom support.
As soon as you change/limit the type of boot rom that is allowed (storage) to only UEFI, you should not see...
Morph3R
lol, all good.
was just going "wth"
Maxx
and the other broads dont have it, so another thing taht can be excluded of making a difference.
CraigHB
thats why you limit boot devices to UEFI, doesnt need to be done over CSM.
@all
All the things that did NOT make any difference in board...
Morph3R
lol, really?
you tell ppl to go BTT, then completely ignore what i posted about the flashing procedure,
which FIXED MY COLD BOOT, when nothing else did.
Or turning on ErP, which is (almost 100%) not the reason for (boot ) issues.
If you think the cold boot IS power related, otherwise...
CraigHB
i know what it does when turned off, i have the Ultra.
Thats why im asking: what do you want to have it off for, as it wont speed up boot (CSM on, is not like legacy mode).
Not sure what you want CSM off for (GB default IS on), as it causes at least minor issues on some boards (like lowering bios res resulting in a "zoomed in" appearance),
outside it doesnt need to be off even with 3xxx cpus and using 10.
@Morph3R
lol, what?
the og poster wanted help, and as as long as him/her or a mod/admin does not state anything different,ppl can post more.
lots off ppl out there, that have a different problem, but might find this thread using a web search,
and if any of those might happen to fix any issues...