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heatless, Microsoft hasn't released any sales figures at all. You can claim IDC figures aren't telling the whole story, but then Microsoft doesn't want the whole story outed either. Mind you, these are shipments. This isn't even counting the sales! Who knows how bad those are going to be.

The problem with PC sales is that tablet and smartphone sales are doing extremely well, and like you've mentioned, could potentially have been doing even better. It's not solely the economic downturn to blame here, just as it isn't only Win8. Even in regions where there has been little...

Depends on where they're sold. Many countries don't do any sort of subsidizing. Still, there was an uptick across the board regardless of location. This also doesn't explain why tablets are selling that well and PCs are down. I'm not blaming Win8 (entirely). I think PC sales would have dipped...

Zara, in emerging markets where people still need PCs, tablets have actually been picking up in sales whereas PCs have declined. It's not a global recession that's to blame here. Win8 shares some of it and, as does not having the need to upgrade if you've bought in the past 5 years, but a...

It all depends on what you're doing. The average usage pattern for me is 20 tabs up, and some are heavy on HTML5. If you throw in high quality videos, your Atom SoC will stutter (read the extremetech review). This new generation of Atom has only 8% higher IPC and ~25% better performance, but...

Just to give you a sense of how bad it is: Samsung has sold more smartphones in the same time than all of the PC OEMs combined.

Tablet and smartphone sales are soaring, though. The only devices that were hurt were PCs. A global economic recession is a valid argument if it affected them all, but it hasn't.

Accompanying thread on this That 13.9% figure is shipments, meaning the actual sales will be even worse.

Difficult to get the NT brand back given they've also Metro-fied their server distributions as well. The server/workstation crowd has already lost faith in MS, it's going to be difficult to get that sort of trust back. If you look at the server space, MS has been on a steady downward decline for...

The plan was to leverage the "need" for Win32/legacy in order to sell tablets, and it clearly hasn't worked. People who buy tablets could care less for windows software if it's missing Facebook and Twitter. BYOD crowd is perfectly content with iPads and Nexus devices, and software has been...

That's the news that matters. Tablet/hybrid sales being that poor is far more disastrous than the negative slide of conventional PCs; which, even though was almost twice as bad as was expected, was nevertheless expected to be quite bad. Yes, Haswell will make them more appealing, but it will...

The tablet side was obviously the one that got more attention, and the few (and minor) details added to the desktop side are going to be overlooked. Rather than expanding the functionality of the desktop and addressing whatever lingering issues still remain, MS decided to glue Metro on to it...

I would not settle with an Atom. It's not even 64-bit compliant, and the GPU was outdated as soon as the SoC was released. 2GB RAM isn't even enough for web browsing.

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How in the world would you explain the HUD? How is that designed for tablets? phones? or even dumbing anything down? Unity is meant to tie them together, and imo it does it far better than Metro and Win8. There's no doubt that it's much more friendly to a touch interface than KDE or XFCE, but...

The same developers that have been ignoring W8 and WinRT? If you're going to push the cloud then you'd better get real cozy with Javascript. If you think developers are going to bother with RT API, then you'd better get accustomed to waiting months and years for applications to surface.

Why are you using Excel if you're contemplating spending >$1000 on a co-processor that won't benefit from parallelisation? If you're constrained by time and need more performance, and you're dishing out that much money, then you need to rethink what software you're using.

[H] needs a new web server.

trrrrrrripple post!

The UI changes are stupid and senseless (for the desktop), but the legitimate arguments get tossed aside like you just did in favor of pointing the more idiotic and mundane UI issues -- which are just as much a matter of taste as they are of coherent valid arguments. I'm pretty sure everyone...

So proper DPI scaling, good thread scheduling (and reduction in power consumption), dumping of the hog that is registry, and a thorough approach to security are incremental changes to you? Come back to me when you get back to planet Earth.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-Blue-Windows-8-Windows-RT-Topeka-QuickStart,21803.html The ~$85 OEM price is being dropped by 35-40%, and that includes Office with the WinRT bundle. That's something that OEMs and us forumtards have been saying for months now: WinRT licensing fee is too...

Please, MS couldn't get hit with an antitrust lawsuit today even if they tried. The issues they're facing in the EU is compliance with the past rulings and IE, not their OS dominance; which is actually slipping in all platforms. And they should bundle third-party software. Both Google and...

As if there's nothing to improve? - multi-monitor support still sucks; whether Win8, Win7 or Blue, they all have issues. - They need an inherent way to handle scaling, and this has to be handled at the desktop level. The fractional scaling approach isn't working. - Workspaces. How in...

To decrease the size of the OS. Whatever you come across that makes you wonder, "Why would they do this?" it's probably because they had to to fit it into a tablet. Even still it's really porky

Because they're a corporation that's out to make money? Which means no incentive to upgrade. That's not a smart business decision, especially if you consider heatless' argument that legacy software and desktop compatibility are such a huge deal. If they were, they wouldn't be ignored in such a...

So Windows Blue doesn't add functionality to Metro that was only available on the desktop and the applications aren't (again) defaulted to Metro? Because I'm pretty sure that's exactly what's happening. The desktop won't disappear, but it's clearly already taken a backseat for Microsoft...

I've read that they didn't have time to get Office completely tablet friendly, and it just so happens that neither did they have enough time to finish WinRT and make it 100% tablet friendly -- and when you look at the control panel and WiFi settings you can see that's the case. These were issues...

^^ This. The Phi is also meant to be used for enterprise and scientific purposes and not for home use. It's going to be expensive and compete with Tesla and Firepro cards.

They can't quit RT when they're already quitting the desktop.

Yes, but the complexity between an A15 and an A57 isn't drastic. In fact, you can make the assumption that no core is inherently anymore difficult than another core with respect to fabrication. The GPU portion of an SoC (or APU/CPU) is much more difficult due to the density and complexity...

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/30947-arm-and-tsmc-tape-out-first-cortex-a57-chip

You guys are being a bunch of Debbie downers. Look on the bright side, Microsoft has finally given Metro the same capability that Samsung phones have had for a year: the ability to put two apps side by side. Yes, you've had that ability on Windows for ages, but now you can do it in Metro too...

Those haven't been going well either. In fact, they've been going backwards at a faster pace with Win8 doing nothing about it. Granted, they couldn't have turned that tide even with a great OS being released, but considering the unimpressive welcome Win8 has been it's done nothing to slow that...

- "Sort of" to the first one, although its just a matter of timing. We're not going to see DDR4 until the late stages of 2014 or 2015, so there's inevitably going to be a memory bottleneck that has to be alleviated in order to provide substantial performance increases. DDR3 prices have also gone...

- "Sort of" to the first one, although its just a matter of timing. We're not going to see DDR4 until the late stages of 2014 or 2015, so there's inevitably going to be a memory bottleneck that has to be alleviated in order to provide substantial performance increases. DDR3 prices have also gone...

And still no official Facebook app! I'm sure people don't use Facebook in the first place. I mean, why would they when "Socl" is so much more Microsofty.

These "toys" have been outselling PCs. Let's face it, very few people need the power of a laptop or even a PC. They're computing needs are filled quite well by these "toys." They have more apps and are friendlier to use than your typical desktop and laptop. They're also cheaper and more...

In general computing, it's the on-die GPU that makes the most of fast memory, not the processor. In fact, with no on-die GPU, you're almost always better off with more slower RAM than you are with less high speed RAM. If Intel decouples it's L3 cache (and bypasses adding L4) for their GPUs, then...

But then why would you pay for a new OS that has to be configured with a skin and adds little-to-nothing over your existing Win7 installation? You're upgrading your desktop OS because of a new style? The improvements for Win8 and Blue are almost entirely focused around Metro and Microsoft's...