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jb1, I have to disagree with you here. Although the card may draw most of the power from PEG, they still need a lot of power from the motherboard, tomshardware review showed the GTX1070 drew around 70W constantly and can spike over 75W quite often when under load. And the PCIE slot will actually...

The PCIe slot can deliver 75W, so dual GTX1070 is unlikely to happen with a PCIe splitter

Heard the tech a while back (2011), might be a good solution for low profile coolers. And Thermaltake finally release a consumer product. Thermaltake - 1U 27mm height!! 27(H)*91.5(L)*91.5(W) mm TDP 70W Waiting for some reviews

I totally agree. Although the availability of Cooltek LP53 can aslo be an issue

SFF should be 8-19L, IDC definition 21.5L is close, but still NOT sff the fact that there is another thread in the wrong forum does not justify posting more thread that does not belong to this forum

its not SFF, wrong forum

true, but I'm sure some "issues" have low priority than others:D

DIY market is small, and SFF market is even smaller, thats why large manufactures doesn't much effort on SFFs

really? there is a patent for that?!

those parts are way too bulky

At almost 30 liters, this is quite a huge case, should not be considered SFF

also need to consider the max power output of the M.2 port, as normal PCI-E do supply power to GPU

Interesting, but two things bothers me: 1. USB 2.0 only 2. net weight of 5.5 KG!!!!! ( according to the datasheet http://www.casepro.cn/datasheet/1525-datasheet.pdf although the website says 3.5kg)

yeah, I understand, but what unique of the Valve prototype is that it fit a full size GPU, a SFX psu in a very small package. Not many other cases I see can achieve this

well, unlike the Valve pototype, the GA620 requires external power brick

does not support GPU

For a Valve steam machine prototype alike case, you cant use external brick. The Valve steam machine prototype house an internal SF psu

alienware alpha it is then

while its certainly interesting, for the price and performance I would go for a larger Alienware Alpha

why no one uses the Valve SteamBox Prototype design? I think it's by far the best balance

does not look very promising after reading some articles for such spinning metal parts, the life of bearing and rotor will be in question secondly, they first aimed at enterprise market, but after quite sometime no company wants to adapt their tech, which might hint the failure of their product

Well, I believe for most HTPC users, an optical drive is necessary to play medias such as Blu-ray or DVD. And at 9.8L you can still use standard psu cables. But at 6.5L most non-hardcore DIYer will struggle with the cables etc. Silverstone is still a mainstream company, they have to make sure...

Saw this on tomshardware. Should have more details from CES 2015. This is a good console size PC, the only concern I have is the material, will they still use the old crappy steel frame or aluminum. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/silverstone-raven-rvz02,28312.html Raven RVZ02 350 x...

These are some quite large cases - well, more like open test benches, the smallest mini-itx PC-05 is 21,7L (400 (B)394 (H) 138 (T)), while only supporting 20CM GPUs. The other two support GPU up to 29CM, but with much larger case dimension And I personally will not use an open case for my...

I'm asking when can you provide because you mentioned several times that your prototype shows good results. As for top HDD, do you mean you can mount the HDD on top of the CPU rad or FAN?! If thats your setup, I have nothing more to comment.

When can we expect your data? I don't see where you can mount another HDD at the top of the case, can you show me?

For GPU cooling, if you want to have decent air flow to the GPU, you can't mount HDDs at the bottom of the case, so 2 SSDs and 1 HHD is all you got for such large case at 20L. The 80/92mm intake fan on the rear will need to provide air for BOTH the PSU and 120mm CPU rad, I don't see how is...

I would like to see your test results, care to share them to prove your point? Most (if not all) cases draw fresh air from the "outside", I really don't see the point using the heated air for CPU and PSU Sure you can mounting nothing at the bottom. My point being, for such large case at 20L...

for the GPU, its not possible if you want to have 3.5 HDDs at the bottom. for a 20L case, 2 SSDs and 1 3.5 HDD are just too little As for PSU and CPU rad, there is only one 80/92mm "intake" fan in the back, are you sure it can supply enough air to the 120 rad for CPU and 120 PSU fan? Not to...

I would say the intake for GPU is terrible, unless you don't want to fit any HHDs in the case Also PSU sucks hot air inside the case? Not a good idea For such big case at 20L, the air flow should not be this bad

it may look similar to "Valve Steam Box Prototype", but no, its not a steam box the internal layout is different, more than twice of the size of Valve Steam Box Prototype, and even larger than an already large SS RVZ01

FT03-Mini is not all aluminum

would be perfect if they just make an all aluminum SG05

While its very interesting, I don't think over 25L can be considered SFF But yeah, you stuck a 20" LCD in, certainly great work

there is no such thing as Steam Machine Clone The layout used by Steam machine prototype existed long before Valve made their prototype And that prototype just simply one of the layout they choice from existing PC designs. Steam machine can have with varieties of different shape and sizes...

interesting color, but this case is larger than some M-ATX cases, not SFF

Necere, the Lanbox Lite I bought many years ago has similar dimensions, and actually a bit smaller. And I believe the internal layout has not changed much in all these years. Thermaltake just failed in innovation.

Not interesting at all, boring design. And worst of all, huge

are you sure you can fit a pci riser cable and other cables inside?

you totally missed the point of Steam Box, its never about the same chassis sure Valve made a Steam Box prototybe which somewhat resemble the traditional HTPC (or X51)layout, to show that its a game console sits in the living room, different than traditional PC. but Steam Box can come in all...