Search results

Huh, thought that was just for individual retail CPU's but OEM's were still getting the desktops. I'll just wait then (one benefit of console-centric development is that even an X2 220 isn't a bottleneck in a lot of games), thanks for the info.

I've been wondering about Trinity vs Llano as well, particularly for gaming as with Trinity the FPU is "shared" - but every benchmark I've seen puts Trinity ahead of Llano. Perhaps not scaling 1:1 with the mhz difference, but still ahead. Is there some FPU-specific benchmarks which show...

The 8400GS should work fine. All video card companies but greatly exaggerated requirements on their products because they have no idea what kind of hardware you have in your system or the quality of your PSU. For a 65wt dual-core Pentium Slimline like yours it can handle the 8400GS easy.

I don't have a S5000, but I have an Acer AspireX which is a slimline with a 220wt PSU. Card? Easy. Sapphire 5570 1GB DDR LP. Extremely quiet at desktop and only ramps up during gaming, and even then I can barely hear it. Excellent performance, not 9600GT but close. Definitely faster...

I hear its noise profile is excellent as well. But it's not a choice for single-slot systems (not to mention that you need a new PSU as well) which is why I specified as such.

To answer my own question: Couldn't take the GT220 any more, truly ridiculous - the thing is a turbine even at the desktop. So I did some research and picked up the Sapphire 5570. Holy crap. Almost *silent* at the Win7 desktop, and this is with the heat-constrained Aspire mini (I see...

Unfortunately that's not an option - the cooler wouldn't fit. The PCI-16X slot on the Acer is at the top end of the motherboard, near the top of the case. The fan faces the top. So only LP single-slot coolers unfortunately. :(

How is the noise level? I expect it to ramp up in gaming, but how about at the desktop? I just got a 220GT for my Acer slimline and jeebus is it loud.

Just got an 1GB MSI LP GT 220 DDR3 for use in my Acer Aspire (slimline). Previously had a 9500GT DDR2. Performance is a nice improvement as expected (doubling the memory bandwidth helps of course), and I can play the majority of my games very smoothly at 1360x768 which is what I usually use...

:facepalm: In other words - you don't want to use a slimline.

From the front USB drop-down panel it looks basically identical to the Acer AspireX series which are nice PC's themselves. I'm sure Acer will be updating them soon for the i3, considering Acer is usually the cheapest wouldn't surprise me to see them beat that price. If they're using the same...

That would likely only hold true if the game has a built-in framerate limiter, eg where it doesn't allow the framerate to go above 30 or 60. For most games running at a lower resolution will just mean the card will pump out more frames per second as fast as it can go, so no it doesn't really...

Then the low-power, low-profile Galaxy 9600GT is your best bet right now for the best performance you can get without upgrading the PSU. My only concern would be noise at the desktop or watching videos - I can't say how loud or not the 9600GLPLP is.

Yup that looks like it. The older non-low power part has a DVI+video connector instead of HDMI+DVI, and there's no 6-pin power connector on that as far as I can see.

Chances are very slim it would have one, the vast majority of OEM machines not marketed to gamers don't, and certainly not any SFF's I'm aware of - why would HP put one in to encourage cards that it doesn't want to support?

The 9800GT requires a 6-pin power connector which the internal HP's PSU likely doesn't have.

Ah, crap.

Yep, I think it's OEM only right now due to Nvidia's prime chip manufacturer is struggling to get parts out at 40nm, so they're satisfying the large vendors now first which is their bread and butter. Since OEM's are using it though there's a good chance (especially at 40nm) it's sucks quite a...

Likely purely for cost reasons. Micro ATX is far more standardized which not only means cheaper cost (most likely) but also means HP can probably move to newer chipsets quicker than a custom MB solution - albeit they're still sticking the AMD models with a Nvidia 6150-based GPU which is...

Finally got to see the new ones in person. Attractive yes, but quite a bit larger than the previous gen - and with 4 slots, looks like yes - a micro-ATX motherboard. It's almost in a completely different size category now though which is somewhat unfortunate. There's the Acer models, but...

It's really tough for us to say. The recommended wattage numbers provided by video card OEM's and Nvidia are usually much higher than necessary in a decent OEM system because they have to account for $20 off the shelf PSU's and DIY systems with outmoded and overloaded equipment. The problem...

The 4650 looks like a nice card (why or why are these LP cards always saddled with DDR2 when DDR3 draws less power? Price I know, but jeez - can't add more than $20 to the final price, doubles the bandwidth). I especially like that it has HDMI+DVI, which the 9500GT doesn't have. VGA only...

He did say 9500GT though, not 9600. I think even with a 89wt 7750 CPU he should be fine with a 9500GT, I'd be surprised the system pulls 160 at load, plus HP looks to have learned their lesson from the previous slimline and really erred on the side of caution with the new models with respect to...

Hey there, how would you say the noise is on the 9600gt lplp card? I had a Galaxy 8600gt before and it was awful, the noise was constant and loud even at the desktop in my slimline. The 9500gt that replaced it was much better and does ramp up during games, but I don't mind that so much, it's...

I think you meant 9600GT rather than 8600GT - and there is a low-power version of the 9600GT from Galaxy which also does not require the connector available now.

Oh believe me I know, we have about 20 of these at work and I've opened up plenty. I just can't help but think they could save some space in the design by not including it.

Hey the finally updated 'em. Damn they're pretty, buta tad taller though (apparently 1.3 inches higher) - they still have that ridiculous pocketdrive bay as well, really who uses those things? No idea about the GT220 performance, which is the top-end card they're offering with it, at least the...

Gah. The way the front isn't flush with the rest of the case really detracts from the look IMO.

No way with the 180wt - it may boot and run for a while, but you're really near the edge. Bear in mind the 230wt PSU's are fairly recent - most people on here likely have 160/180wt systems, so a PSU swap is necessary for likely the majority in this thread. When you factor that in, and add the...

Not the same card - that's the previous version which requires the 6-pin power connector. A user had one in his HP Slimline and reported it to be quite loud. Would have been nice to see some actual dB measurements from the device though, especially one geared towards home theater use.

I really would look at drive benchmarks before going with the Raptor. The high-density 640GB and 1TB drives are very close in performance for far, far GB per $. I personally don't think it's worth it after using a Raptor for a while vs. a 640GB, but opinions vary.

No, the 9400GT should be fine with that PSU, even with a 64wt Athlon. It is very low power.

And even only a 9500GT if he wants to play modern games, otherwise a 9400GT is a better fit - less power draw, accelerates video and can do casual gaming well.

It's not a Vista issue - there has to be something else. If anything Vista goes overboard in trying to avoid video/audio stutter. Hell you shouldn't get any stuttering using the on-board video with 1 GB and Vista, so something else is up. Have you reinstalled the OS?

Damn, that Silverstone SG04 is perfect. Definitely the first case I can see myself spending over $100 for. I first followed the link posted here and kept thinking "Dammit, if only it didn't have that ugly mesh grill on the side and that stupid handle" - and then went directly to...

That's a nice find - I've got my notify on from newegg when they get more in (Sadly amazon.com does not ship to Canada). With the connector that basically seems to solve the PSU problem in the slimlines. Only question now is *noise* - be sure to report back if/when you get it and let us know...

Thanks, good review. Of note however is if you don't need 4 memory slots and stick to dual-core processors, at least in Cndn funds the Vostro Slimline is quite a bit cheaper. Vosto Slimline with 2.66 Core2Duo, 2 gigs, 250GB HD, Vista HP: $430 Studio Slim with 2.66 Core2Duo, 2 gigs...

False alarm! The issue is with Prince of Persia: Sands of Time on my rig. Regardless of the GPU temp I get specs/artifacting during gameplay which looks exactly like the symptoms of an overheating GPU. I'll try alternate drivers, very odd. The fan never ramped up during my gaming but it...

Argh...now my 9500GT refuses to ramp up the fan speed in 3D after working great for 2+ weeks, so eventually artifacts start appearing. Was working fine yesterday, I could tell the difference even in Vista with the slight fan rampup in Aero (tried it both under XP and Vista). I'm going to test...

If a 9500GT is perfectly fine, then of course the 9400GT will be as well. It's even lower power.