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What you should mention is if you have any conclusive proof that the list is substantially in error. Otherwise, you're just tossing around cheap shots & innuendo. Based on the performance of similar architecture GPU's such as the X1xxx's, I'd say the F@H performance of the 2xxx's can be...

Then tell us: why is it that the GTS or GTX is supposedly "better"? Because of high (16x) AA ability over the 2900, which adds virtually nothing to IQ over say 8x? Or the relatively few (and unnecessary) added FPS in certain games (but not other games)? Like I said: propaganda. Or BS. Or...

What, more revisionist history? :rolleyes: They are talking about both GTS cards, and some have said here that the 640 vers. is faster. Again, more confusing BS from you. No cigar this time either. Where did I say anything about 2900 having "more RAM"? So when you have no coherent argument...

Absolutely correct. MC needs to stop loving the stench of his own farts.

It's not propagandizing if it's real. The 2900's performance does beat the GTS', and in many cases equals or beats the GTX. No I would not say that's correct, since there were a few names tossed my way as well, and what I meant by 'propagandizing the performance' of GPU's is giving the...

Ask the GTS owners that think the 640 is so much faster than the 2900XT. They're the ones doing the harping. Well, that's an invention of yours, because I never said anything about the 1GB cards. Pande Group is still working on the client for it. But with 320 shaders it should fold...

It's also a good value depending on your priorities. Like I said, the card gives me plenty of FPS and image quality in the games I play currently, so what's another 10 or 30 or 50 more FPS when it's makes no diff to actual gameplay? This is the kind of propaganda that gets blown out of all...

Got news for ya sport - the 2900XT does beat the GTS in both RAM sizes. Sorry you're having trouble with that. I'm merely saying to you nimrods the reason I bought the ATI over the Nv's - and it's great gaming performance was simply the icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned. You're...

Just stating the facts Droc. You can try to characterize them any way you like.

The reality also is that the GTX costs far more than the 2900XT. So you might expect higher FPS from a more expensive card. AND as I said above, even at its higher cost the GTX doesn't have some features that the 2900XT does. So...if you: 1. don't need those features and, 2. need more FPS...

That's where you're wrong, Rattle-brain (and Kyle, and anyone else that this may apply to). It's got nothing to do with dumb assumptions about "logos" or brands. TBH, I bought the 2900XT with an eye to it's primary "high-end" function being F@H, not gaming. BUT, since it does game so well I...

Plenty of test results are out there. I'm not wasting my time proving something to nit-wits that can't admit reality.

Funny, but the facts are that I can use 8xAA in most games with no probs. More than that doesn't improve the picture IMO. The 2900XT bitch slaps the GTS. Get over it. Laugh My Ass Off.

Well see that's the problem with folks like you, and that's why some people probably do delete a game after a short while, since there is a learning curve to any game which can be tough enough for some, then dealing with asinine players on top of that can really be a turn-off. I think any new...

Sorry Nv fanboys, but most people smarter than a small soap dish know the 2900XT beats GTS. Nice try tho'.

Hey, everyone starts out as a "n00b" at some point, but there's no need to be an ass about it. Not a real good way to invite newish players to the game.

Notice that it says at the top of the list: " This list is not free from errors, please use it as a guide only. If you are unsure if one Video Card is indeed faster than another please refer to a Product Review." Just can't stand it that the 2900XT is faster than the GTS, eh Jack? :rolleyes...

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Exactly. This is why the game is called Team Fortress 2, with the emphasis on "team". I see it all the time in match after match - peeps going off on separate ventures trying to get max kills instead of playing together with an objective. I don't know how many times they've all just battled it...

I haven't seen the Demo be "worthless" since the change, the character still gets his share of kills in the games I've played. He's just not as dominating now as before which is as it should be.

Stop whining about the Demoman nerf. :rolleyes: It obviously needed doing b/c with all of his attributes combined he was too powerful as I've said elsewhere. Maybe it could have been a different adjustment than what it got, but it's better than what it was.

With the Demo's speed, hit points, and throwing distance he had it too easy. Good to balance the game out a little.

Glad they finally updated it. :)

I've been using it for about 3 months now and I must say it's been the best monitor ever. Clear, sharp, bright, great colors, no noticeable ghosting, etc. I'm glad I bought it.

I agree on the Heavy. He needs some tweaking.

I stated my opinion, as did MrG, and did not say it was "fact". Those are your words. Quit lying.

We all have our opinions.

More than 4AA/8AF I've never seen make a visual difference in any game on any card. All it does is unnecessarily eat up frame rate. But if you want to psyche yourselves out that high AA/AF is great, go ahead.

I've seen several other reviews on all of the above cards, so you gotta not rely so much on inane assumptions. The main reason I post at all about the 2900 is when dipshits like jmackay start passing out the hate speech on this card. I don't see the point in spreading disinformation on good...

Today and yesterday I had several kills as Heavy, Sniper, and Scout and they didn't show up in my stats, also the total playtime did not get added in. Seems like it hasn't been updating. :confused:

I'll try one more time: it doesn't matter if it was an "old" test or not because the problems that may have existed with the card and/or the rendering have been fixed, so any newer results will only be equal or better than those. I posted that link because it used all 4 cards in the test and was...

Like I said, you're yammering on about issues that no longer exist. You can't seem to accept the fact that the 2900XT is a great card, probably because it makes you feel superior to think the 8800 is better. Well it didn't last long did it?

So you've played for about 2.5 times longer than I have. If someone else had played for 75-80 hours, would that make their opinion 2.5 times more valid than yours? If another person had played 4 hours, does that make his/her opinion 2.5 times less valid than mine? Well, as someone else has...

Faint praise or strawmen don't necessarily mean 100% falsehood, but those tactics do tend to leave out important issues, or highlight non-important issues. You and I have been through this before many times j, so digging up old posts from months past isn't needed. Most if not all of the...

I have. It's not my fave map but others may like it a lot. I like Hydro better.

Well that's convenient, isn't it? :rolleyes: You keep saying that on the one hand, and yet on the other hand you keep passing judgment on the game based on your "superior" gameplay time, AND and judge others that have a different take than yours, AND keep presenting the 'over-worked, highly...

Actually you're trying to damn this card with faint praise or strawman arguments. You've been doing so constantly since the card hit. However, there is no basis in real-world use for anyone to dislike this card. I think you should try to find another occupation, j.

No, I don't think you've realized that, since you've given so much weight to the game devs that have supposedly slaved so long n' hard. You give the impression that they've created something that is beyond reproach and should not be critiqued - unless of course one has 25+ hours on the game. I...

Doesn't really matter, because the point is made that the 2900XT is shown to do much better than some like to give it credit for. What I'm saying is people than might have previously written off the card based on a few early reports and are looking for a new GPU should re-consider the...