How exactly did that happen. And did anyone see this coming?
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GPU prices — is the worst behind us ?
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Yep. Started about a year ago.
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That's part of the plan... Get as much as society as possible reliant on datacenters , cloud and AI computing... Whether that is us plebs subscribing to cloud gaming/computing.. or businesses utilizing AI ...
If you think the income equality gap is huge today... hold your f'ing beers.. because we haven't seen anything yet!
The AI race is about control... This is your parents version of the "race to land on the Moon"
This has been a talking point since the 2021 crypto boom (those less known-glamourous part of the supply chain were a major reasons for some of the covid era shortage, in cars and elsewhere):
https://semiengineering.com/addressing-the-abf-substrate-shortage-with-in-line-monitoring/
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/intel-rethinks-common-substrate-to-combat-chip-shortage/
The CHIPS act was modified a bit to not only thing about the fancy chips making itself, but the PCBs has well, for example:
https://www.war.gov/News/Releases/R...esidential-determination-for-printed-circuit/
Getting society reliant on datacenters is not part of some plan, just market and technological force, messy, competitive, without a nice coordination super mind, like everything before. Lot of the people involved were took by surprise by society giant reaction to chatgpt and its demand for datacenter, some like google are loosing traditional search revenues and try to balance-resist it at the same time that they must adjust for the customer demand.
If apple was able to make enough mac studio to sell a 512gb m5 max to everyone for them to run their model locally, they would happily do it, one of the most popular local AI option is from one of the biggest company of all time and not much involved in offering a datacenter equivalent to care/fear about canabilising itself that way. Same for AMD strix halo successor, they will happily sales them to people.
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In general, there is no downside to anyone raising their prices as much as possible. Can anyone think of ANY product or service that could double their prices citing inflation, tariffs, supply chain, etc and someone in the media would “wait a minute, that doesn’t make sense”? Tooth picks could double in price and people would shrug and say yep that’s the tariffs for ya.
Every company (person) wants maximum profits for their goods & services. That has always been true. Historically there have been mechanisms that counter balance those price hikes (see the story of Martin Shkrelli). But none of those mechanisms are working right now. So no limit on price increases across the board. Sky’s the limit.
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RTX 5080’s now in the $2000-$2200 range.
Heck I was unhappy paying $650 for a 5070 back in the spring. But now that’s a great price.
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Already up over $1k now. The 9070 GRE is starting to look like a fantastic deal.
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If your computer is not on a battery backup / UPS, power conditioner, etc... you are flirting with fire and the hair is starting to frizzle on your arms.
Well, Sam Altman stated in an interview yesterday that "it is terrible from a global allocation perspective for everyday people to keep the world's limited supply of DRAM in personal computers where it sits mostly idle, rather than funneling it into centralized AI data centers".
Guys, you need to stop being so selfish and hogging the RAM for your personal video card and computer!
Guys, you need to stop being so selfish and hogging the RAM for your personal video card and computer!
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I never really cared for Altman but now I absolutely despise him after that comment. What a cunt.
View: https://youtu.be/iMsUcCYNKqY?si=vT3jpdnU8Xn53_0-&t=1739
what he said is quite trivial, it would be nice if people building local AI turn around and share it to others people during their downtime.... (i.e. the grid cloud) for a better use rate of limited dram supply, it would also help to have a lot of people able to afford it and be quite decentralized.
Same goes for airplanes and almost everything supply constraint.
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Yep, picked up a RTX 5070 for $525. Damn glad I did before nutzo occurred.
Confirming yet again that Sam is a douche bag! Didn't this guy also complain that his workers were only doing it for money and didn't care enough about the company's vision?
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“AMD Reportedly Plans Another Radeon GPU and GDDR6 Kit Price Hike for November
by DrUsmanSaleem Today, 14:18 Discuss (2 Comments)AMD is reportedly getting ready to raise prices on its Radeon GPU and GDDR6 memory kits again in November. According to a new post from Board Channels, the increase would follow an earlier adjustment in October, when AMD apparently started charging its board partners more for GDDR6 from October 1. The exact scope of the November hike isn't known yet. The main reason seems to be memory, since GDDR6 prices reportedly went up by around 8 to 10% in the third quarter. Board Channels also claims AMD now reviews its kit pricing every quarter to keep up with rising GPU and memory costs. AMD sells its GPUs to add-in board partners bundled with memory, so any increase there usually ends up in the price of the finished card.
This would add to a long list of reported increases this year. A 10% hike on Radeon GPU kits was reported for July, another 10% increase across GPUs, chipsets, and possibly CPUs followed in September, and AMD's suggested Radeon prices in China went up in early October. Retail prices are already moving, too. According to Hardware Unboxed's latest pricing survey, cited by Videocardz, the RX 9060 XT 16 GB costs 17% more than it did in September, while the RX 9070 and RX 9070 XT are up 12%. Of course, AMD hasn't officially confirmed any of this. How much the November change affects store prices will depend on board partner pricing and existing inventory, so buyers who were already planning on a Radeon RX 9000 card might want to buy sooner rather than later.“
Is there an English version of this website?
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Someone spring Luigi from prison, he's got more of the lord's work to do...
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Techpowerup is an English site. What are you talking about?
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A better solution would be not to directly tax these aholes but to use modified eminent domain and put 90% of their holdings in the social security and medicare trusts, kill 2 massive problems in one fell swoop. Elon can survive with just 100 bil, put the rest 900 to work for all of us. Ditto for Suck, that psycho has no business running his 'e-drug' cartel.
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Da, comrade.
I was referring to this site Board Channels.
Да, товарищ
Translation you will not have a computer it will be $200+ a month to rent for 30hrs
Man I really wish I bought a whole spare rig with multiple kits of ram and video cards and nvme drives as it feels like once it's gone it will be gone forever this time
Does he even realize just how tone-deaf that statement is? "If they don't have bread, let them eat cake." We know how that turned out for the queen who said that.
I was lucky that I bought / built new machines last fall - prices were already on the upswing but I avoided most of the really painful bits. That said, I could never get my hands on a 5090 try as I might -- they were never available, until they were suddenly available but priced to sit on shelves. I'm fortunate that I got a 4090 and so far it's holding up quite well and I have no gaming application or use case that the 4090 feels lacking on.
I do occasionally so some AI stuff on that box and occasionally wish for that 32GB, but I've been thinking maybe I can find a used 5060 Ti with 16GB of RAM as the case has the slot.
I do occasionally so some AI stuff on that box and occasionally wish for that 32GB, but I've been thinking maybe I can find a used 5060 Ti with 16GB of RAM as the case has the slot.
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Hold on your 5090 and 5080s. Could be used to buy a house someday!
I'm kidding of course and I bought my RTX 5080 early Summer of last year at "normal" prices however I'm still feeling angst because of the impact this can have on gaming development and tech. I'm afraid GTA6 may be one of the last big AAA games of its kind for a long time or forever. Everything following that may rely on AI or cloud gaming. Hopefully it won't turn out that way.
My best card is a 3080Ti and it is pretty overkill for most games.
I do "only" game at 1440p with a nice 27" monitor, but I really don't see the point of 4k until the monitor / TV is much larger.
Main game is Warframe, and will everything maxed out (except maybe shadows and AA), I get 160+ fps everywhere in the game.
Yes, I have played much more demanding games, but even those play perfectly fine and usually 90+ fps with most everything maxed.
AAA games are usually very over-rated, buggy and poorly optimized.
Over the past many years, I've enjoyed playing more indie games than games from large publishers.
I was in a similar situation. I wanted a 5090 but never found them available for purchase for under $3000. For that type of money, there are other purchases of things that I'd want instead.