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[Poll] Steam Machine 2026 = Build / Buy / Pass + SURVEY

Do you want a "Living Room PC" & are you...

  • Building Custom SFF (Can build faster Mini-ITX for less money)

    Votes: 14 14.0%
  • Building Standard ATX (Size doesn't matter; max performance/dollar)

    Votes: 13 13.0%
  • Buying Steam Machine (Value convenience/SteamOS over raw specs)

    Votes: 6 6.0%
  • Waiting/Upgrading Existing (Current PC/Deck is enough)

    Votes: 21 21.0%
  • Hard Pass (Price-to-performance is unacceptable)

    Votes: 40 40.0%
  • Writing a better POLL

    Votes: 6 6.0%

  • Total voters
    100

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Given the $1,049+ price tag and soldered CPU/GPU, what is your move for a 2026 Living Room PC?

With this thing launching at $1,049 (512GB) to $1,428 (2TB + Controller), the value proposition is questionable for many of us.

Early benchmarks show it performing near an RX 6600 / RTX 3060 yet costing significantly more than the sum of its parts if built domestically.

I’ve set up the Master Vote poll above as an attempt to discover definitive [H] statistics.

👇 SEE BELOW FOR THE SURVEY 👇
Since XenForo limits us to one poll per thread, I am posting a second detailed survey in the replies.
Please vote above, then scroll down to Post #2 to answer survey questions!
 
Steam Machine 2026 = SURVEY

Thanks for voting in the poll above! I can only have one poll per thread.
Please quote this post, delete any unnecessary line items and hit reply.
Let's get down to why [H] people will choose to build, buy or pass.

1. The "Convenience Tax" - DIY build with similar specs (Ryzen 7600 + RX 7600 + 1TB SSD) costs ~$970.
The Steam Machine is ~$1,049+. Is the ~$80–$150 premium worth it for the pre-built convenience?
Yes: Assembly time/cable management isn't worth the savings.
Maybe: Only if thermals/noise are significantly better than my DIY attempts.
No: I’d rather save the cash for games or a future GPU upgrade.
Hard No: I can build significantly better performance for $1,050.

2. The Soldered Dealbreaker The CPU and GPU are soldered (non-upgradable).
Does this kill the value proposition for you?
Yes: Fatal flaw. A living room PC must be upgradable.
No: I treat it like a console; I expect to replace the whole unit in 4-5 years.
Indifferent: I rarely upgrade CPU/GPU in SFF builds anyway.

3. Primary Performance Concern Based on early reviews (8GB VRAM, RDNA 3 28CU).
What is your biggest worry for 2026/2027 AAA titles?
VRAM: 8GB will force low textures soon.
Raw Power: Too weak for native 1440p/60fps without heavy upscaling.
Ray Tracing: RT performance is negligible.
No Concern: Matches expectations for a 1080p/FSR device.

4. SteamOS vs. Windows Would you buy this if it came with Windows 11 pre-installed instead of SteamOS?
Yes: I need Windows for Game Pass/Anti-Cheat native support.
No: I prefer SteamOS for the controller UI and simplicity.
No: I’d just dual-boot Windows myself on the current hardware.
Irrelevant: Not buying it regardless of the OS.

5. The "Right Price"
What is the MAXIMUM you would pay for this specific hardware configuration?
$799 or less (Console-competitive)
$899 (Fair premium)
$999 (Psychological barrier)
Wouldn't buy even at $699 (Architecture too weak)

Example Reply:
1: Hard No (Can build better)
2: Yes (Fatal flaw)
3: VRAM
4: No (Prefer SteamOS)
5: $799 or less
 
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  1. Is the ~$80–$150 premium worth it for the pre-built convenience?
  2. Is Soldered CPU / GPU Dealbreaker (non-upgradable) kills value proposition for you?
  3. What is your biggest worry for 2026/2027 AAA titles?
  4. Would you buy if Windows 11 pre-installed instead of SteamOS?
  5. What is the MAXIMUM you would pay for this specific hardware configuration?

1. No: I’d rather save the cash for games or a future GPU upgrade.
2. Yes: Fatal flaw. A living room PC must be upgradable.
3. Raw Power: Too weak for native 1440p/60fps without heavy upscaling.
4. No: I prefer SteamOS for the controller UI and simplicity.
5. $799 or less (Console-competitive)
 
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Steam Machine 2026 = SURVEY

Thanks for voting in the poll above! I can only have one poll per thread.
Please quote this post, delete any unnecessary line items and hit reply.
Let's get down to why [H] people will choose to build, buy or pass.

1. The "Convenience Tax" - DIY build with similar specs (Ryzen 7600 + RX 7600 + 1TB SSD) costs ~$970.
The Steam Machine is ~$1,049+. Is the ~$80–$150 premium worth it for the pre-built convenience?
Yes: Assembly time/cable management isn't worth the savings.
Maybe: Only if thermals/noise are significantly better than my DIY attempts.
No: I’d rather save the cash for games or a future GPU upgrade.
Hard No: I can build significantly better performance for $1,050.

2. The Soldered Dealbreaker The CPU and GPU are soldered (non-upgradable).
Does this kill the value proposition for you?
Yes: Fatal flaw. A living room PC must be upgradable.
No: I treat it like a console; I expect to replace the whole unit in 4-5 years.
Indifferent: I rarely upgrade CPU/GPU in SFF builds anyway.

3. Primary Performance Concern Based on early reviews (8GB VRAM, RDNA 3 28CU).
What is your biggest worry for 2026/2027 AAA titles?
VRAM: 8GB will force low textures soon.
Raw Power: Too weak for native 1440p/60fps without heavy upscaling.
Ray Tracing: RT performance is negligible.
No Concern: Matches expectations for a 1080p/FSR device.

4. SteamOS vs. Windows Would you buy this if it came with Windows 11 pre-installed instead of SteamOS?
Yes: I need Windows for Game Pass/Anti-Cheat native support.
No: I prefer SteamOS for the controller UI and simplicity.
No: I’d just dual-boot Windows myself on the current hardware.
Irrelevant: Not buying it regardless of the OS.

5. The "Right Price"
What is the MAXIMUM you would pay for this specific hardware configuration?
$799 or less (Console-competitive)
$899 (Fair premium)
$999 (Psychological barrier)
Wouldn't buy even at $699 (Architecture too weak)

Example Reply:
1: Hard No (Can build better)
2: Yes (Fatal flaw)
3: VRAM
4: No (Prefer SteamOS)
5: $799 or less
1. Maybe for some people. Not for me.
2. If you're buying something like this, I'd consider it a gaming console.
3. All of the above for what I expect from gaming.
4. Not buying it. I already dual boot windows/linux.
5. Not interested at all. Buy once, cry once.
 
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Junk in 5 years after Louis Turi on Coast to Coast. What you really want is Intel's Nova Lake coming up.
 
It feels like a product for a pretty small demographic, even if it was much cheaper.
 
Steam Machine 2026 = SURVEY
1. Yes
2. Indifferent
3. VRAM
4. No (Dual boot)
5. $799 or less

This is missing the option for wanting a more PREMIUM product. I'd be down to get a SFF with 16GB VRAM and 32GB RAM. I'd consider spending more money for it. $1000 for 8GB VRAM is just ridiculous. It is like buying cheap boots vs nice boots. Rather not have a machine that can't play new games within a couple years.
 
1. Yes
2. Indifferent - flaw, but not a deal-breaker for this use case
3. VRAM
4. No - SteamOS is benefit for a living room device
5. $1000+

I'm considering it, if I can get my hands on one. Yes, the cost is stupid - but then everything with our hobby / PCs is right now. The convenience and form-factor win out over everything else for me. People are so fixated on the hardware spec that they miss the real selling point of avoiding the usual desktop slog to get at your Steam library. Outside of Nintendo (which appeals to the whole family here), I am not a console gamer. I love PC gaming, but I just don't have the time for it like I once did between work and family life. If I could walk to the living room at the end of the night, turn on the Steam Machine and just instantly resume playing for a few minutes before bed then that would be a huge win to me.

If I have let's say, 30-60 free minutes at the end of the day, I don't want to dick with updates, drivers, Windows, a couple minutes to boot up, etc, etc. I just want to press the button and go. Supposedly, this device/SteamOS will offer that - we will see. Also, before anyone interjects: "but Bazzite exists!" - yeah, I know. I've tried it and it's fine but far from the seamless/painless Steam library solution that I'm hoping for.
 
Hard to remember 1~5 from 2nd post, so here it is again...
  1. Is the ~$80–$150 premium worth it for the pre-built convenience?
  2. Is Soldered CPU / GPU Dealbreaker (non-upgradable) kills value proposition for you?
  3. What is your biggest worry for 2026/2027 AAA titles?
  4. Would you buy if Windows 11 pre-installed instead of SteamOS?
  5. What is the MAXIMUM you would pay for this specific hardware configuration?
 
Hard to remember 1~5 from 2nd post, so here it is again...
  1. Is the ~$80–$150 premium worth it for the pre-built convenience?
  2. Is Soldered CPU / GPU Dealbreaker (non-upgradable) kills value proposition for you?
  3. What is your biggest worry for 2026/2027 AAA titles?
  4. Would you buy if Windows 11 pre-installed instead of SteamOS?
  5. What is the MAXIMUM you would pay for this specific hardware configuration?

1. No.
2. No (but better be real small)
3. Sub-30 fps performance
4. No.
5. $650-750 CAD.
 
They do, but how many of them are gaming machines by a gaming company? It's a new type of product that isn't sure if it's competing with consoles or PCs.
Niche is niche - how many mini-PC's are corporate machines by a corp for corps?? All or none? It's a niche.

RE: It's a new type of product that isn't sure if it's competing with consoles or PCs.
My take is - it's a gaming console that adds PC capability for a small premium vs being a 1-trick pony.

It's nice to have more choice than less choice.
 
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Personally I have never seen a point to gaming in the livingroom.

Gaming is not a "social" thing to me. It is something I lock myself in a room and do alone late at night when everyone else is sleeping.

Gaming is not how I interact with people. It is how I get a break from people.

That said, here is my take:

1. Is the ~$80–$150 premium worth it for the pre-built convenience?

Never. Pre-builts always come with compromises, and I know I can do it better myself. Even if they were the same price, I would always, always, always build my own, without exception. (well, maybe except for laptops. It is tough to build those yourself.)

2. Is Soldered CPU / GPU Dealbreaker (non-upgradable) kills value proposition for you?

Absolutely. I don't want a consumer device. I want a PC. At an absolute minimum CPU, RAM, GPU and NIC need to be user replaceable.

My ideal would be the way motherboards used to be 25 years ago, like my Abit KR7A-RAID back in the day:

abitkr7a133r_all.jpg


Almost nothing on board, and as many expansion slots as possible for me to customize and install my own stuff. I hate being reliant on whatever audio, NIC, wireless, whatever component someone else selected to include on a motherboard because it was cheap, and I hate having excess integrated components on a board I never use. it feels so wasteful.

I want every system to be completely customized to my own needs.

3. What is your biggest worry for 2026/2027 AAA titles?

All of the above. Biggest concern is 8GB VRAM. That has already been insufficient for a year or two now in many titles. Yes, even at minimum settings at 1080p.

RT performance is also a concern. Back in the day raster titles looked good, but as the industry has shifted to RT, when you disable RT, the remaining raster rendering looks worse than raster only titles looked back in the day. As much as I dislike the fact that RT has taken over, the fact on the ground is that unless you want a subpar experience it is necessary.

4. Would you buy if Windows 11 pre-installed instead of SteamOS?

Nope. I am already trying to disentangle myself from all things Windows as much as possible as it is. I haven't run Windows as my primary desktop OS in 25 years.

Forced cloud account logins, trying to force platform stuff I don't want on me (integrated cloud apps, AI, One Drive, etc.) and telemetry are all deal breakers for me. I still have a Windows install on a VM for when I absolutely cannot avoid using it, and have maintained a minimized Windows install just for games (but I am even starting to transition that to Linux now that the Nvidia Open Source driver is actually good) but I am hopeful that the day will come when I no longer have to use Windows at all.

I am sick of being treated like a product rather than a customer, user and owner of a system.

5. What is the MAXIMUM you would pay for this specific hardware configuration?

Very tough question.

My gut is to suggest an APU type of configuration is worth $400 at most to me. This machine is a little different, as it actually has dedicated VRAM using custom GPU silicon, but that custom GPU silicon is rather low end like an RX 7400, so maybe I'd bump that to $500...

...but that is based on historical pricing before the market went first Cryptocurrency and later AI crazy, back when pricing for computer hardware was rational.

in 2010 I built a killer build for a kid I knew with a discrete GPU for $500 (Athlon x2 unlocked to X4 Phenom II and overclocked to 4.2Ghz, GeForce GTX 460 OC model) (excluding monitor, keyboard, mouse and other accessories) It hurts my soul that the community is being ripped off so badly today.

In today's insane market, I have no idea at all how to price something like this. It feels like standard components are more expensive every single time I look them up, and I fear it is going to kill consumer general purpose computing all together, and that makes me very sad.
 
I've built three Bazzite sTeAm MaChInEs so far this year, and I'm in for one official Steam Machine.

Two with 8GB VRAM, and one with 4GB. The four gig unit is the only one that struggles for my needs.
 
Personally I have never seen a point to gaming in the livingroom.

Gaming is not a "social" thing to me. It is something I lock myself in a room and do alone late at night when everyone else is sleeping.

Gaming is not how I interact with people. It is how I get a break from people.

Not really about any of that for me or a lot of others I'd think.

It's that the screen in the living room is usually the largest (thus most fun and immersive) in the house.

And the couch is big and comfy.

Literally all there is to it.
 
Depends on how you mean. Hard pass on the Steam Machine at any cost because I don't need it, though at the current price I'd recommend it to nobody. For the casual "I just want an easy game console" person the PS5 Pro is way more for less money. For the "I wanna be a PC gamer" person, you can get more for less and in an upgradable form factor which is huge IMO. For me? Well I know how to run fiber optic HDMI cables so my solution to TV gaming is simply to have my desktop able to switch over to my TV when I wish. That way I not only don't need a second rig, but I'm not trading anything off, I get to have my full desktop power no matter where I'm gaming.
 
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I have no intention of buying a Steam machine. I just have too much other faster gear. Did a bunch of upgrades in the first half of 2025 and I'm glad I did. Dodged the rampocalypse bullets. Also I doubt I'd use it much. My old main rig is on TV duty. Lately I've mostly been using it to run local AI jobs. 3090 isn't as good as the 5090 in my main rig, but letting it sit there and crank doesn't tie up my main rig.
 
I sold my steam deck at a profit after 2 years of use. I game less but more importantly I am so far into the local AI stuff that I have the hardware burning high wattage and putting out heat it just wouldn't make sense to bother when I can use much stronger machines. I work with data sometimes that absolutely can never enter a cloud system in the contracts so local it will stay.
 
I sold my steam deck at a profit after 2 years of use. I game less but more importantly I am so far into the local AI stuff that I have the hardware burning high wattage and putting out heat it just wouldn't make sense to bother when I can use much stronger machines. I work with data sometimes that absolutely can never enter a cloud system in the contracts so local it will stay.
I see this kind of post a lot. Am I the only person that cannot sell used products for more than their price new?
 
1. Hard No: I can build significantly better performance for $1,050.
2. Yes: Fatal flaw. A living room PC must be upgradable.
3. Raw Power: Too weak for native 1440p/60fps without heavy upscaling.
4. Irrelevant: Not buying it regardless of the OS.
5. Wouldn't buy even at $699 (Architecture too weak)

I've had an HTPC/Server in the living room for ~15 years. It sits behind the tv in an alcove and cannot be seen/heard. Every time I do a full upgrade from my main PC (~3-4 years) the best compatible hardware is transplanted into the HTPC. The current ~6yo hardware performs 20% better at 1080/1440p than a steam machine.

That said, I'd consider picking up one used for ~$500 for the kid's room.
 
<Has zero interest in the thing, spends every day injecting reality about said thing>
1. It's pricey.
2. It's not the fastest.
3. it's part of the same broad PC ecosystem.
4. It's the only available PC most-console-Like experience available (if we're being honest).
5. It's still an option for people to buy if they want that experience and are willing to pay a very significant premium to support an expand that segment for the cutsie little Gabe Cube.
 
I've had an HTPC/Server in the living room for ~15 years. It sits behind the tv in an alcove and cannot be seen/heard. Every time I do a full upgrade from my main PC (~3-4 years) the best compatible hardware is transplanted into the HTPC. The current ~6yo hardware performs 20% better at 1080/1440p than a steam machine.

That said, I'd consider picking up one used for ~$500 for the kid's room.
The waterfall effect! I built my own boxes after my first Gateway 2000 x486 DX33mhz (I think that is what it was called).
Waterfall = last rig I built overflowed to the kids' room with all cpu, ram, vid card, hard drive & all other upgrades over years.
 
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I've had an HTPC/Server in the living room for ~15 years. It sits behind the tv in an alcove and cannot be seen/heard. Every time I do a full upgrade from my main PC (~3-4 years) the best compatible hardware is transplanted into the HTPC. The current ~6yo hardware performs 20% better at 1080/1440p than a steam machine.

That said, I'd consider picking up one used for ~$500 for the kid's room.

Same as I do - @ 4K 60 my current CPU in my HTPC from my last build (was a 3570K - got upgraded to the Xeon when made the HTPC) is so old that in newer/modern UE5 games it gets CPU bottlenecked to only 30FPS - but then these same games tend to have framegen so I can still get ""60FPS"" basically 😁

Once you get to early 9th gen titles (Last of Us Remake aside) and some/very few late gen 8th gen titles - CPU might be pinned at 100% but can still pull 60FPS native (with maybe some dips here and there to 45) - anything before that is no problem

Whenever I replace my current rig and that becomes my HTPC I'm gonna put a 5800X3D in it (why I'm happy they re-released that to hopefully bring second hand sales down)

Edit: Looking forward to trying Steam OS out on the HTPC when Nvidia support drops - see how better it does than Windows 11
 
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""60FPS"" basically
IIRC, Valves stated goal was to build & sell a console that was equal to or better than 70% of gen pop gamer rigs on the Steam Hardware Survey. I think they did it.
They didn't say they would do it for 1/2 the price of PS/XB which seems to be what most people are upset about...

In the meantime, parts / prices of everything tech SKYROCKETED!
PS: the box concept was initiated in 2023.

  • GPU: 🚀 Massive Surge. High-end cards are 2x–3x MSRP.
    • RTX 5090: ~$2,000 (2023/MSRP) ➔ $4,100 (Current).
    • RTX 5080: ~$1,000 ➔ $1,250+.
    • Mid-Range: RTX 5060 Ti 16GB hitting $550+ (vs. ~$430 MSRP).
  • RAM: ⚡ DDR5 Skyrocketing.AI demand ate supply.
    • 32GB DDR5 Kit: ~$80–$100 (Late '25) ➔ $370–$390 (Current).
    • 64GB DDR5 Kit: ~$200 ➔ $600–$800.
    • Silver Lining: DDR4 is cheap again (~$200 for 32GB).
  • NVMe / SSD: 📈 Moderate Increase.
  • Stable compared to RAM/GPU, but lows are gone.
    • 1TB NVMe: ~$60 (2023 Low) ➔ $75–$100 (Current).
    • 2TB NVMe: ~$110 (2023 Low) ➔ $130–$170 (Current).
    • 4TB NVMe: High demand pushing prices to $400–$726.
  • CPU: 🤖 Steady. No shortage spikes like GPU/RAM, but new gen (Intel 15th/AMD Ryzen 9000) launches at premium MSRPs.
  • VRAM: 💎 The Bottleneck. Cards with <12GB are "budget" traps; 16GB+ models carry a massive "AI Tax."
TL;DR: If you need DDR5 or a high-end GPU, buy used or wait for Q3/Q4 2026 drops. SSDs are reasonably stable but won't hit 2023 bargain bins again soon.
 
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IIRC, Valves stated goal was to build & sell a console that was equal to or better than 70% of gen pop gamer rigs on the Steam Hardware Survey. I think they did it.

I think in terms of people's actual/foremost gaming rig - their Steam Survey HW goal/metrics got dragged down by third-worlders in countries the Steam Machine isn't even for sale in now
 
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