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AMD RX 9090 XT and 9080 XT rumors

noko said:
I am more wondering if the 9000 series will be short lived and AMD beating Nvidia on launch dates for next generation. The 9000 series absence from mobile is pushing OEMs to be almost 100% dependent on Nvidia unless just using an APU. I don’t see that winning for AMD long term.
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I hope for AMD’s sake that UDNA is ready before Rubin. RDNA 4 has done well in desktop this year, but I don’t like its chances against the 18 GB 5070 Super and 24 GB 5070 Ti Super next year. Without a price cut, it’s a massacre.
 
noko said:
The 9000 series absence from mobile is pushing OEMs to be almost 100% dependent on Nvidia unless just using an APU. I don’t see that winning for AMD long term.
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I believe AMD is out of mobile ... forever.

Intel has a strong OEM partnership, so does Nvidia. The result of Intel Nvidia tie-up will be that amd is out of discrete mobile gpu permanently

However in 2027, they'll have 2 powerful chiplet based APUs
  • 50xt equivalent APU — (equivalent to next gen series S) this will go to premium handhelds
  • 60xt equivalent APU — (Replacement for strix halo) this will go to premium tablets/laptops/two-in-ones — & also AI PCs
 
GoldenTiger said:
The 9070XT wasn't delayed due to Nvidia, the drivers simply weren't ready which caused the delay.
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Driver still aren't ready IMO, I still get this dumb crap when I alt-tab out of a game on my 9070XT. Whole PC gets locked up, laggy, one little section of the monitor will work and you can see it scrolling like crazy. Microsoft broke the MPO hack that handled this before and its been like 3-4 years of AMD not doing squat about it. Nvidia and Intel both do not have this problem at all.

I'd say alt-tabbing out of a game is a pretty normal and expected behavior, I'm not asking a whole lot here.

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LigTasm said:
Driver still aren't ready IMO, I still get this dumb crap when I alt-tab out of a game on my 9070XT. Whole PC gets locked up, laggy, one little section of the monitor will work and you can see it scrolling like crazy. Microsoft broke the MPO hack that handled this before and its been like 3-4 years of AMD not doing squat about it. Nvidia and Intel both do not have this problem at all.

I'd say alt-tabbing out of a game is a pretty normal and expected behavior, I'm not asking a whole lot here.

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I don't have that issue when I alt tab out of a game on my 9070xt. Try turning off hardware acceleration on the browser and see if that stops the problem.
 
LigTasm said:
No, I wont do that and I shouldn't have to. AMD should fix their trash. This has been an issue since the 6000 series.
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It's called troubleshooting, might not fix it at all. I would also recommend using DDU and remove the driver and reinstall, might have corrupted something especially if you switched from Nvidia to AMD. If you don't put any effort in to troubleshooting it than you can't sit here and whine, part of owning a computer is fixing issues that happen sometimes.
 
LigTasm said:
Driver still aren't ready IMO, I still get this dumb crap when I alt-tab out of a game on my 9070XT. Whole PC gets locked up, laggy, one little section of the monitor will work and you can see it scrolling like crazy. Microsoft broke the MPO hack that handled this before and its been like 3-4 years of AMD not doing squat about it. Nvidia and Intel both do not have this problem at all.

I'd say alt-tabbing out of a game is a pretty normal and expected behavior, I'm not asking a whole lot here.

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I have no issue here (9070 XT) with or without MPO.
Everything is up to date, including this:

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Gideon said:
It's called troubleshooting, might not fix it at all. I would also recommend using DDU and remove the driver and reinstall, might have corrupted something especially if you switched from Nvidia to AMD. If you don't put any effort in to troubleshooting it than you can't sit here and whine, part of owning a computer is fixing issues that happen sometimes.
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I'm being brief with my description because this isn't a thread about that. I've done the troubleshooting and I know what the problem is. This isn't a new issue, it isn't even a 9000 series issue. AMD corporate forum used to be filled with complaints about this, of course they've since removed the entire forum so who knows where that went.

The 9070XT is a good fast card, this is a minor bug in the grand scheme of things but its dreadfully annoying. Imagine if you're not a hardware enthusiast and this happens to you on a system you just bought, what will you do? You'll send it back and probably never buy that brand again.

If AMD wants more market share they need to fix these asap, its not some obscure game that 12 people worldwide play, its literally any chromium based browser and discord. Remember Nvidia rolling out updates every other day to fix their black screen issues with the 5000 series? That lasted for a couple of weeks, this has been around for years. I want every company to be the best it can be so we have competition and better prices.
 
LigTasm said:
I'm being brief with my description because this isn't a thread about that. I've done the troubleshooting and I know what the problem is. This isn't a new issue, it isn't even a 9000 series issue. AMD corporate forum used to be filled with complaints about this, of course they've since removed the entire forum so who knows where that went.

The 9070XT is a good fast card, this is a minor bug in the grand scheme of things but its dreadfully annoying. Imagine if you're not a hardware enthusiast and this happens to you on a system you just bought, what will you do? You'll send it back and probably never buy that brand again.

If AMD wants more market share they need to fix these asap, its not some obscure game that 12 people worldwide play, its literally any chromium based browser and discord. Remember Nvidia rolling out updates every other day to fix their black screen issues with the 5000 series? That lasted for a couple of weeks, this has been around for years.
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It's just weird, you have this issue, it was fixed some time ago, but yeah it was a slightly annoying bug.

As for troubleshooting, I grew up in the 80's and 90's, todays hardware problems are minor compared to what I had to put up with. However most people that have a issue will do a search on the internet to see if others had the same problem and what they did to fix it.
 
Gideon said:
It's just weird, you have this issue, it was fixed some time ago, but yeah it was a slightly annoying bug.

As for troubleshooting, I grew up in the 80's and 90's, todays hardware problems are minor compared to what I had to put up with. However most people that have a issue will do a search on the internet to see if others had the same problem and what they did to fix it.
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I know, you're the very best there has ever been. Anyways, I guess I'll just treat this forum as Reddit from now on, as you're definitely not allowed to question Saint AMD at all.
 
arthur_tuxedo said:
I hope for AMD’s sake that UDNA is ready before Rubin. RDNA 4 has done well in desktop this year, but I don’t like its chances against the 18 GB 5070 Super and 24 GB 5070 Ti Super next year. Without a price cut, it’s a massacre.
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If there is no 5060 12GB super (I think we have yet to hear rumours about that one and the 4060 did not had one), still a window at least in the $300-350 space.

That said, with stories of Rubin taping out in June for an early 2026 launch, desktop could launch H2 2026, like we can imagine RDNA 5/UDNA 1 will if things goes well (I am sure Jensen was piss about delay last time and want to remove those supply/delay stories, GDDR7 should be under time and control this time at least).

Marees said:
The result of Intel Nvidia tie-up will be that amd is out of discrete mobile gpu permanently
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APU being so much better for that task and AMD desire to lock vendor into both their solution could have pushed them in that direction (and make them work better with each other at least marketing wise with SAM and others), when we look for the most recent AMD mobile discrete 7000s series type of gpus:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Laptop-Search.8223.0.html#results

Not sure if we would find many (any?) laptop with an Intel cpu from say 2024/2025, seem it was already hard to find mobile AMD gpus without an AMD cpu for a while. Intel-Nvidia tie up could have very little impact considering what the market already looked like.

And if they do not want to put discrete AMD with AMD Cpu that because it would be an inferior solution to their APU they provide, not because Intel-Nvidia would have tie-up the whole world market (like there must be China laptop maker that run a bit wild doing what they want).
 
LukeTbk said:
GDDR7 should be under time and control this time at least
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Apparently there is a memory super cycle for a whole decade due to AI HBM demand

You can now see nv & Intel release specialized inference gpus on gddr !!

Gamers are cooked. Even ddr4 prices are increasing

However the sole light at the end of the tunnel is that AMD would use lpddr5x / lpddr6 for the next gen (RDNA 5) 50xt & 60xt cards
 
LigTasm said:
I know, you're the very best there has ever been. Anyways, I guess I'll just treat this forum as Reddit from now on, as you're definitely not allowed to question Saint AMD at all.
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That's not the case, of course, you can ask :)

The MPO problem keeps coming up again and again, I had it before and I was disabled it.

So not only AMD, but also Nvidia and Intel have it, but Microsoft and Google are also involved because they write code every day. It's more about cooperation between them, and we just need to keep up with the latest updates.
 
If they made a 9080 I would probably get one.

Has to be stronger than 5070Ti and pretty close to 5080 in everything except maybe compute. For that it has to be at least as strong as a 4070Ti.

Do all that for about what a 9070XT costs, maybe a bit more and you have a deal.

Until then, I will rely on someone either donating an AMD card to me, or being sent one to test before I spend.
 
KazeoHin said:
Remember, when a problem happens on Nvidia, its a computer problem. When a problem happens on Radeon, its a Radeon problem.
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Not in the slightest. Nvidia needs to fix their trash too and they have plenty of it. People have gotten too stuck into the "team" mentality forgetting that these corpos wouldn't lend you a fart on discount. They've gotten used to selling us sub-par products with half finished drivers (look at the 50 series launch) and everyone just slurps it right up.
 
wizzi01 said:
Never had that issue with my 6900xt or 9070xt
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same, but went 6700 to 9060xt, and have been alt-tabbing to tweak the oc + fan speeds since i got it.

on topic, id like to see higher end cards but not at the insane pricing...
 
My son has zero issues alt-tabbing on his 9070xt. Anecdotal, I know just saying my son doesn't have and issue but he has had zero issues with his card.
 
I have no issues with alt tabbing. I do have a problem with my computer freezing on start up on occasion. It didn't really start until I went to windows 11 though. It seems like when one of my monitors turns on late it can crash. It rarely happens anymore, but it does happen on occasion. The card has been fantastic otherwise. I had another problem, but it was actually my fault.
 
What happened with those rumors, still going on or now on their way of the RDNA 3 7950 xtx update with latency fix and really high clock.... ?
 
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