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Please if you can keep it simple no need to be rude i just dont understand getting a 12 gig video card example the new 3060 coming out and the 8 gig versions. Why is the 12 gig card 329.99 and the 8 gig is 399 in price? what EXACTLY does one look for in purchasing a video card besides the ram or vram size? Does 8 gig really run or better used over 12 gigs if so why bother with the other? Then you have different clocks speeds and boost clocks etc....The 3060 and ti are both in my budget but im lost on the price and ram differences for the cost. Im really waiting on Atomic Heart and was * Thinking* more vram would be better but maybe not? Tankies in Advanced :D
 
fightingfi said:
Please if you can keep it simple no need to be rude i just dont understand getting a 12 gig video card example the new 3060 coming out and the 8 gig versions. Why is the 12 gig card 329.99 and the 8 gig is 399 in price? what EXACTLY does one look for in purchasing a video card besides the ram or vram size? Does 8 gig really run or better used over 12 gigs if so why bother with the other? Then you have different clocks speeds and boost clocks etc....The 3060 and ti are both in my budget but im lost on the price and ram differences for the cost. Im really waiting on Atomic Heart and was * Thinking* more vram would be better but maybe not? Tankies in Advanced :D
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The RTX3060Ti has a faster GPU, it also has a bigger bus, hence higher bandwidth. Both of these makes it faster than the RTX3060 in spite of its 12GB.

The RTX3060 should be fine for 1080p in recent games. Its supposed to perform about the same as a RTX2060Super. The 3060Ti is about on par with the RTX2080.
 
The bigger bus is also why the faster card has 8GB and the slower one has 12GB. The 3060Ti shares a chip with the 3070 and has a 256-bit bus. They disable some of the cores on the 3060Ti so it's slower than the 3070. A 256-bit bus allows memory sizes in powers of 2. 4GB, 8GB, 16GB, 32GB etc. The 3060 uses a smaller, slower chip with less processing power and a 192-bit bus. 192-bits is a little goofy, and basically works on 3x a power of 2 for possible memory sizes, so 3GB, 6GB, 12GB, 24GB, etc. NV apparently decided that 8GB was enough for the 3060Ti and 3070, but decided to bump the 3060 up to 12GB instead of 6GB. Personally I'm expecting a mid-cycle refresh with higher memory capacities on the faster cards. 16GB 3070, etc. I'm also expecting a 6GB 3060 at some point... or maybe they'll call that a 3050Ti. NV's card naming has shifted a bit compared to the last few generations.

Between a 12GB 3060 and 8GB 3060Ti I'd take the 3060Ti any day for gaming. It's simply the faster card. The 3060Ti has more processing power. Just at a really basic level the 3060Ti has 4864 Cuda cores while the 3060 has 3584, so the 3060Ti has 35.7% more processing cores. The 3060 does have a bit higher stock boost clock - 1.78GHz v 1.67GHz, so the 3060 can boost to a 6.6% higher clock speed. .357/1.066 = .335, so about 1/3 faster for the 3060Ti. The 3060Ti also has a 1/3 wider memory bus. I'd say a rough eyeball guess off the specs is the 3060Ti should be about 1/3 faster than the 3060. If you don't like guessing you'll just have to wait until late February for 3rd party benchmarks of the 3060.
 
Tup3x said:
Basically the only reason why RTX 3060 has 12GB is that 6GB would have been too little.
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Well, this is one way to look at it but history shows that it is pretty normal for lower end GPU's to boast ridiculous amounts of VRAM because customers when choosing PC's or parts often look at one parameter and in case of GPU's it is VRAM. So 3060 with 12GB is even better than 3080 with 10GB... and it is also a lot cheaper so obviously the best choice 🤩
 
XoR_ said:
Well, this is one way to look at it but history shows that it is pretty normal for lower end GPU's to boast ridiculous amounts of VRAM because customers when choosing PC's or parts often look at one parameter and in case of GPU's it is VRAM. So 3060 with 12GB is even better than 3080 with 10GB... and it is also a lot cheaper so obviously the best choice 🤩
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and that logic actually makes sense for many people.

Heck even some review sites are claiming that the RTX3060 is faster than the Ti version. :(:rolleyes:
 
COTA said:
and that logic actually makes sense for many people.

Heck even some review sites are claiming that the RTX3060 is faster than the Ti version. :(:rolleyes:
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Please point me to any reputable review or tech site that has claimed that. Before the 3060 was actually revealed there were rumors that there would be a 3060 ultra with 12 gigs that was going to be faster but as far as I know that's it.
 
jobert said:
Please point me to any reputable review or tech site that has claimed that. Before the 3060 was actually revealed there were rumors that there would be a 3060 ultra with 12 gigs that was going to be faster but as far as I know that's it.
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That’s the point, no reputable site would say that, but a lot of people neither read smart analysis nor make smart decisions. The ultra was very obviously a fake, cheap photoshop of what ended up being the 3060 12GB. It’s not happening, there’s no space above or below the 3060 ti.
 
The issue here is that Nvida has kept RAM sizes stagnant for 3 generations, but games are getting more and more advanced.

The 3060 would have suffered bigtime as a 6GB card, as 6GB is starting to become a huge hinderance for running modern, texture-heavy games. 8GB can still squeeze by, some games 'max it out' but don't necessarily need more. So Nvidia had this dilemma, release a powerful card with a hugely limiting VRAM capacity, or release it with the next step up in capacity, but confuse the brand's SKU stack.

In all honesty, the 3060 at 12GB makes total sense, if you then think of the Ti and 3070 as having 16GB (Like they should have) and the 3080 having 20GB.

But Nvidia was Nvidia and decided to make sure these cards don't become like the 1080Ti: too many people happy with their purchase after 4 years, means not enough people were itching to upgrade. Can't have people happy with their purchase for 5 years, GPUs aren't cheap to design! Nvidia needs people to upgrade REGULARLY.
 
euskalzabe said:
That’s the point, no reputable site would say that, but a lot of people neither read smart analysis nor make smart decisions. The ultra was very obviously a fake, cheap photoshop of what ended up being the 3060 12GB. It’s not happening, there’s no space above or below the 3060 ti.
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And you're missing my point which is that he is just likely making that up and probably just full of crap. We got people everywhere being overly dramatic and jumping on the nonsense train acting like the world is upside down because a slower card has more vram than a faster card. And I'm pretty sure the average person that's going to spend $400 or more on a video card may do at least a little bit of research and if they don't well then that's their fault. Even back when I knew nothing at all about graphics cards 20 years ago I still took some timr to do research before buying. And research back then actually took some effort where now a days everything is at your fingertips. I guess it is sort of ironic that all the information in the world can be pulled up in no time yet people seem to be getting dumber by the day.
 
jobert said:
I guess it is sort of ironic that all the information in the world can be pulled up in no time yet people seem to be getting dumber by the day.
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Welcome to the modern world. It reminds me, for example, of people buying the GTX 1050 when the RX 470 was the clearly better - and cheaper! - card, yet people bought Nvidia because of name recognition, doing 0 research. This is also how you're getting people buying 3090 cards for gaming - which it's not really intended for - in a clear example of the stupidest waste of money I've seen in tech in a while, when you can get a 3080 for half the MSRP and basically similar performance. Point being: people make stupid, misinformed and/or irrational all the time.

As a university professor, I can tell you I'm regularly baffled at the 0 effort a lot of students put into anything, despite having WAY more information accessible than I ever had at their age, and it being insanely easier to access VS 20 years ago (literally in their pocket VS having to go to a library and open a book to hopefully find what you're looking for). The more advanced humans get, the larger the chasm gets between those who make efforts to improve and be better, and those who do the least amount possible.

KazeoHin said:
The issue here is that Nvida has kept RAM sizes stagnant for 3 generations, but games are getting more and more advanced.
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Totally on point. We should emphasize, had AMD missed the target like the have in the past few years, Nvidia would have gotten away with it, and the VRAM increase would've come now in 2021. But, AMD got close enough, and as you said the 6GB VRAM would have been too gimped not just in new generation games but also VS the competition, so they had to increase VRAM mid-lineup even though they didn't want to do it yet. Early purchasers of 3060 Ti and up cards lose somewhat (we'll see when true new gen games come out how 8/10GB VRAM fare), 3060 12GB purchasers have a pretty decent guarantee that the card will age gracefully in the next 2-3 years. There is now %100 certainty the next lineup will bring at least 16GB to 70 and 80 series cards (20 on the 80 series would be great, but this is still Nvidia, who has a strong past of skimping on VRAM as much as possible and for as long as it can get away with it).
 
euskalzabe said:
Welcome to the modern world. It reminds me, for example, of people buying the GTX 1050 when the RX 470 was the clearly better - and cheaper! - card, yet people bought Nvidia because of name recognition, doing 0 research. This is also how you're getting people buying 3090 cards for gaming - which it's not really intended for - in a clear example of the stupidest waste of money I've seen in tech in a while, when you can get a 3080 for half the MSRP and basically similar performance. Point being: people make stupid, misinformed and/or irrational all the time.

As a university professor, I can tell you I'm regularly baffled at the 0 effort a lot of students put into anything, despite having WAY more information accessible than I ever had at their age, and it being insanely easier to access VS 20 years ago (literally in their pocket VS having to go to a library and open a book to hopefully find what you're looking for). The more advanced humans get, the larger the chasm gets between those who make efforts to improve and be better, and those who do the least amount possible.


Totally on point. We should emphasize, had AMD missed the target like the have in the past few years, Nvidia would have gotten away with it, and the VRAM increase would've come now in 2021. But, AMD got close enough, and as you said the 6GB VRAM would have been too gimped not just in new generation games but also VS the competition, so they had to increase VRAM mid-lineup even though they didn't want to do it yet. Early purchasers of 3060 Ti and up cards lose somewhat (we'll see when true new gen games come out how 8/10GB VRAM fare), 3060 12GB purchasers have a pretty decent guarantee that the card will age gracefully in the next 2-3 years. There is now %100 certainty the next lineup will bring at least 16GB to 70 and 80 series cards (20 on the 80 series would be great, but this is still Nvidia, who has a strong past of skimping on VRAM as much as possible and for as long as it can get away with it).
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I'm actually not baffled, this is mostly a problem with government student loan industry and kids not getting the opportunity to learn how to budget because of the unlimited money spigot from federally backed debt, which also drives prices up for everything and causes people not to get a real sense and understanding of scarcity. They'd be a lot better off if the government just heavily subsidized college education like during the Great Compression Era of the 1940s-1970s where working a part-time job could cover cost of tuition and living expenses. Then people would be given real incentive to learn how to budget properly and value their purchases rather than just keep borrowing money and not caring about what they buy.
 
jobert said:
And you're missing my point which is that he is just likely making that up and probably just full of crap. We got people everywhere being overly dramatic and jumping on the nonsense train acting like the world is upside down because a slower card has more vram than a faster card.
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Uh, because it doesn't make sense from a product perspective? Can you point to me the last time where a lower end model was only available in a configuration that has more VRAM than a higher end model?
 
dexvx said:
Uh, because it doesn't make sense from a product perspective? Can you point to me the last time where a lower end model was only available in a configuration that has more VRAM than a higher end model?
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How many times does it have to be explained that the only reason they went with 12 gigs is because 6 gigs would not have been enough for that level of card? If there would have been a feasible way of going with 8 gigs on that card then they would have. At some point all the high end cards will be doubling up on the vram anyway.
 
jobert said:
At some point all the high end cards will be doubling up on the vram anyway.
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This. For some reason, Nvidia thought they could get away with another year of skimping on VRAM. I'm guessing AMD surprised them, forcing a mid-lineup VRAM catchup. Expect all 2021 refreshed 60ti, 70 and 80 cards (whether that's 3000 Super, or they jump to 4000 series) to have doubled VRAM. This also means if there's a $280 3060 6GB you should stay away from it, as it'll be outdated the moment it gets out. That 6GB now (as in 2021) means it's a 3050 Ti at best, once everything else catches up in VRAM.
 
jobert said:
How many times does it have to be explained that the only reason they went with 12 gigs is because 6 gigs would not have been enough for that level of card? If there would have been a feasible way of going with 8 gigs on that card then they would have. At some point all the high end cards will be doubling up on the vram anyway.
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Again, point me to a time in Nvidia or AMD GPU history where a lower end SKU was only available in a higher VRAM configuration compared to a higher end SKU.

I'm well aware of the fact that since the 3060 has a 192 bit bus, you're forced to do 6GB or 12GB. It still doesn't change the fact this is unprecedented.
 
dexvx said:
Again, point me to a time in Nvidia or AMD GPU history where a lower end SKU was only available in a higher VRAM configuration compared to a higher end SKU.

I'm well aware of the fact that since the 3060 has a 192 bit bus, you're forced to do 6GB or 12GB. It still doesn't change the fact this is unprecedented.
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I get that you're saying, "only available," but there are plenty of examples of lower end cards having more VRAM than higher end counterparts.

Here's a 4GB GT 730 when clearly a 2GB 750Ti would be much faster in the same generation.
 
The 3060 fits in a no man's land of cards that's not really for the enthusiast community, but rather for more generalized use. 12GB will be useless for most games because it doesn't have the power to push resolutions high enough to make use of that capacity. This generation has shown that AMD's gamble with 16gb and gddr6 didn't pay off any real benefit in gaming. 1440p and 4k gaming isn't using that memory capacity that's for sure and any engine that tries to load more textures for the capacity finds itself not being able to use it.
 
Content creators, they may not need a high end GPU for gaming or want to pay for a 3090, so now they can get a 3060 with 12GB of VRAM for creation.
 
kirbyrj said:
I get that you're saying, "only available," but there are plenty of examples of lower end cards having more VRAM than higher end counterparts.

Here's a 4GB GT 730 when clearly a 2GB 750Ti would be much faster in the same generation.
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There were 2GB GT 730 models, so it doesn't fit the criteria. There are other variations, like the 3GB GTX 780 Ti against the 3/6GB GTX 780, but again, lower VRAM options were the *default*.

It would make sense if Nvidia had a cheaper 6GB 3060 SKU with a 12GB 3060 option, but for the *average* person, it creates a lot of confusion.
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And I'm pretty sure the average person that's going to spend $400 or more on a video card may do at least a little bit of research and if they don't well then that's their fault. Even back when I knew nothing at all about graphics cards 20 years ago I still took some timr to do research before buying. And research back then actually took some effort where now a days everything is at your fingertips. I guess it is sort of ironic that all the information in the world can be pulled up in no time yet people seem to be getting dumber by the day.
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Oh please. People spend thousands of $ on food every year. Have you done the applicable research to ascertain you are within the 90th percentile when doing price/performance on food products? Let's not get into clothing, housing, transportation, etc. People do research because they either have the free time or they enjoy the research/subject matter. I sure as f* don't know if my Columbia 3-in-1 Interchange jacket is the best price/performance option, but it sure suits my needs and (what I think) is a reasonable price.
 
dexvx said:
There were 2GB GT 730 models, so it doesn't fit the criteria. There are other variations, like the 3GB GTX 780 Ti against the 3/6GB GTX 780, but again, lower VRAM options were the *default*.

It would make sense if Nvidia had a cheaper 6GB 3060 SKU with a 12GB 3060 option, but for the *average* person, it creates a lot of confusion.

Oh please. People spend thousands of $ on food every year. Have you done the applicable research to ascertain you are within the 90th percentile when doing price/performance on food products? Let's not get into clothing, housing, transportation, etc. People do research because they either have the free time or they enjoy the research/subject matter. I sure as f* don't know if my Columbia 3-in-1 Interchange jacket is the best price/performance option, but it sure suits my needs and (what I think) is a reasonable price.
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What an asinine analogy. :rolleyes:

And where in the hell am I even talking about price to performance? All I was saying was that if someone's going to spend $400 on a video card they'll probably do at least a little bit of research in most cases and not be fooled into thinking just because the card has more vram that it's faster.
 
jobert said:
What an asinine analogy. :rolleyes:

And where in the hell am I even talking about price to performance? All I was saying was that if someone's going to spend $400 on a video card they'll probably do at least a little bit of research in most cases and not be fooled into thinking just because the card has more vram that it's faster.
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What you said was literally the definition of a price/performance metric through research.
 
dexvx said:
What you said was literally the definition of a price/performance metric through research.
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Again what I was saying doesn't have anything at all to do with price to performance. I was simply saying that someone spending around $400 would probably not just impulse buy and actually do a little bit of research and know that just because one card has more vram does not make it faster.
 
jobert said:
Again what I was saying doesn't have anything at all to do with price to performance. I was simply saying that someone spending around $400 would probably not just impulse buy and actually do a little bit of research and know that just because one card has more vram does not make it faster.
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I don't have that kind of faith in humanity. I would bet that the average consumer just sees the big "12" and buys that. I remember buying an ATI 9000 because it was a bigger number than 8500 even though the 8500 was a faster card (I returned it). Granted this was in the days before smart phones, so you had to take your knowledge of video cards with you to a store ;).
 
Slade said:
12GB will be useless for most games because it doesn't have the power to push resolutions high enough to make use of that capacity.
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Not necessarily. You can load up all textures on very high detail, it’ll provide a notable IQ improvement with no impact to frame rate.

kirbyrj said:
I don't have that kind of faith in humanity. I would bet that the average consumer just sees the big "12" and buys that.
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I’m sadly inclined to agree, a lot of people function that stupidly.
 
VRAM capacity does not equal how fast the card is. Rest assured the 3060 Ti is the faster card of the two. It also has a higher memory bandwidth despite the lower capacity.

Really the 12GB on the 3060 comes down to two things as I see it.

1. A 192-bit bus means there are 6 memory chips. This means available configurations are as a 6GB or 12GB card.
2. A 6GB configuration from the start may be seen as a marketing blunder considering the backlash that many have had on the 3080 being 10GB, and in the wake of RDNA2.

Plus your average consumer just sees 12GB and thinks that must be the better card.
 
Sir Beregond said:
VRAM capacity does not equal how fast the card is. Rest assured the 3060 Ti is the faster card of the two. It also has a higher memory bandwidth despite the lower capacity.

Really the 12GB on the 3060 comes down to two things as I see it.

1. A 192-bit bus means there are 6 memory chips. This means available configurations are as a 6GB or 12GB card.
2. A 6GB configuration from the start may be seen as a marketing blunder considering the backlash that many have had on the 3080 being 10GB, and in the wake of RDNA2.

Plus your average consumer just sees 12GB and thinks that must be the better card.
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I think many people will feel confused. Seeing the model number and the memory size.

I can see people getting the RTX3060 instead of the Ti because of price and memory size. Maybe not a bad thing depending on real world performance difference. If its like say the RTX3060Ti vs RTX3070, I might even consider it.
 
euskalzabe said:
This. For some reason, Nvidia thought they could get away with another year of skimping on VRAM. I'm guessing AMD surprised them, forcing a mid-lineup VRAM catchup. Expect all 2021 refreshed 60ti, 70 and 80 cards (whether that's 3000 Super, or they jump to 4000 series) to have doubled VRAM. This also means if there's a $280 3060 6GB you should stay away from it, as it'll be outdated the moment it gets out. That 6GB now (as in 2021) means it's a 3050 Ti at best, once everything else catches up in VRAM.
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This is the real reason the 3060 has 12gb's. AMD released 3 cards with 16 gb's and will likely release a 6700 series with 12gb. This surprised NVIDIA and perception is that more vram = better, so NVIDIA has no choice. In answer to the OP, many have already said, basically the 3060 ti is a faster gpu so it uses its smaller amount of ram to the fullest, the 3060 will likely never fully utilize 12gb's.
 
COTA said:
I think many people will feel confused. Seeing the model number and the memory size.

I can see people getting the RTX3060 instead of the Ti because of price and memory size. Maybe not a bad thing depending on real world performance difference. If its like say the RTX3060Ti vs RTX3070, I might even consider it.
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3060Ti should be closer to 3070 than 3060 going by the specs.
 
Tup3x said:
Basically the only reason why RTX 3060 has 12GB is that 6GB would have been too little.
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No, the reason it has 12GB is because AMD threw an insane amount of memory on to their cards and they needed to respond. Also, miners love it. If 6GB was too little, they could have just gone with 8GB and called it a day.
 
Smoked Brisket said:
This is the real reason the 3060 has 12gb's. AMD released 3 cards with 16 gb's and will likely release a 6700 series with 12gb. This surprised NVIDIA and perception is that more vram = better, so NVIDIA has no choice. In answer to the OP, many have already said, basically the 3060 ti is a faster gpu so it uses its smaller amount of ram to the fullest, the 3060 will likely never fully utilize 12gb's.
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Of course it will never fully utilize 12 gigs of vram and nobody even thinks that. The point that has been repeated over and over and over is that 6 gigs would not be enough on that level of card and that is indeed true right now even in a couple of games today.
 
HockeyJon said:
No, the reason it has 12GB is because AMD threw an insane amount of memory on to their cards and they needed to respond. Also, miners love it. If 6GB was too little, they could have just gone with 8GB and called it a day.
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Sigh, here we go again. How many times does it have to be explained to people like you that with the 192-bit bus you're only option is 6 or 12? You can't just magically stick 8 on there.
 
jobert said:
Sigh, here we go again. How many times does it have to be explained to people like you that with the 192-bit bus you're only option is 6 or 12? You can't just magically stick 8 on there.
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Strickly speaking, you can. But you have to pull a GTX970. :p:D
 
Regarding memory, you need "enough". Having too much and never using it doesn't do you any good. 8GB is on the bleeding edge with some games these days at 1440p. I'd prefer a high end card come with at least 12GB at the prices we're paying now, especially because I keep my system for long periods between upgrades. If you're shopping at the 3060 vs 3060Ti budget range though, you're probably not at 4K, but more likely at 1080p or, maybe, at 1440p. At 1080p, 8GB is more than enough. At 1440p, it's sufficient, but starting to show it's age in some titles. Still, you should be fine for the near term. There's more to performance than just the buffer size, though, as memory bandwidth and processing power will take precedence over raw buffer size, especially if you're not going to be filling the full buffer anyway. Thus, at that price point, the 3060Ti is still the better buy for gaming, since you're going to be using it for the forseeable future in applications where 8GB is sufficient. 12GB is there for marketing and for cryptocurrency mining. Expect this card to sell extremely well to crypto miners.
 
COTA said:
and that logic actually makes sense for many people.

Heck even some review sites are claiming that the RTX3060 is faster than the Ti version. :(:rolleyes:
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It's true. I used to see people buying the FX 5200 with 256MB at Comp USA all the time. The GPU was never fast enough to utilize that much RAM but it was cheap and had as much or more VRAM than cards that were actually faster and more expensive.
 
jobert said:
Sigh, here we go again. How many times does it have to be explained to people like you that with the 192-bit bus you're only option is 6 or 12? You can't just magically stick 8 on there.
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"People like you". Wow, way to be a douche. If you're done stroking your inflated sense of superiority boner, I'm not saying this from a technical standpoint, I'm saying this from a marketing standpoint. No one told Nvidia they absolutely had to go with a 192-bit bus. They could have done a 256-bit, 8GB card and just cut down the cores compared to the 3060Ti to create the same differentiation. The fact of the matter is that AMD is throwing an insane amount of memory on these cards, and they know it's going to sell well to customers whether they need it or not. Given that the 3080 only has 10GB compared to AMD's 16GB at the higher end, and the 3060Ti came out shortly after, those cards where likely good to go before they knew what AMD had coming. Now, they need to react with the market as is, hence why there are persistent rumours that the 3080Ti is going to have a mammoth 20GB frame buffer.
 
HockeyJon said:
"People like you". Wow, way to be a douche. If you're done stroking your inflated sense of superiority boner, I'm not saying this from a technical standpoint, I'm saying this from a marketing standpoint. No one told Nvidia they absolutely had to go with a 192-bit bus. They could have done a 256-bit, 8GB card and just cut down the cores compared to the 3060Ti to create the same differentiation. The fact of the matter is that AMD is throwing an insane amount of memory on these cards, and they know it's going to sell well to customers whether they need it or not. Given that the 3080 only has 10GB compared to AMD's 16GB at the higher end, and the 3060Ti came out shortly after, those cards where likely good to go before they knew what AMD had coming. Now, they need to react with the market as is, hence why there are persistent rumours that the 3080Ti is going to have a mammoth 20GB frame buffer.
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There is the real truth. It's likely there was still time to change the card and give it a 12GB frame buffer given AMD's solutions have tons more VRAM, which is bad for NVIDIA from a marketing standpoint. Other cards like the 3080 were already being built as 10GB models before NVIDIA knew AMD's 6800XT would have 16GB of RAM, or NVIDIA would have gone with 20GB.
 
HockeyJon said:
"People like you". Wow, way to be a douche. If you're done stroking your inflated sense of superiority boner, I'm not saying this from a technical standpoint, I'm saying this from a marketing standpoint. No one told Nvidia they absolutely had to go with a 192-bit bus. They could have done a 256-bit, 8GB card and just cut down the cores compared to the 3060Ti to create the same differentiation. The fact of the matter is that AMD is throwing an insane amount of memory on these cards, and they know it's going to sell well to customers whether they need it or not. Given that the 3080 only has 10GB compared to AMD's 16GB at the higher end, and the 3060Ti came out shortly after, those cards where likely good to go before they knew what AMD had coming. Now, they need to react with the market as is, hence why there are persistent rumours that the 3080Ti is going to have a mammoth 20GB frame buffer.
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Good grief, sensitive much? :rolleyes:

What I meant by people like you was simply people that think this is only marketing and not seeming to understand what the feasible options were for memory capacity on this card.
 
jobert said:
Good grief, sensitive much? :rolleyes:

What I meant by people like you was simply people that think this is only marketing and not seeming to understand what the feasible options were for memory capacity on this card.
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I think the actual memory bus / configuration is decided in the design phase primarily for marketing purposes. We've seen all manner of stupid and sensible bus widths, but its well known that more VRAM sells cards. That's why we've seen lower end cards with stupid amounts of RAM in the past.
 
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