NVIDIA Introducing Ampere in March 2020 & Releasing RTX 3080 in June, Analyst Indicates

A multi-month staged roll out makes me think:
1) Waiting for AMD to launch so that Nvidia can then counter-launch
2) Not a major leap in performance over Turing
3) I'm going to have to wait extra long for the Titan model. Damn it.
 
Thunderdolt said:
3) I'm going to have to wait extra long for the Titan model. Damn it.
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I'm torn. I'm not buying a $2-$3k GPU like the Titan V or RTX Titan just on principle.

I've been tempted for so long to upgrade from my Pascal Titan X, but despite 3+ years having passed, there is still nothing in the real of sane pricing that is a sufficient upgrade to make the spending worth it.

I'm not going to spend another $1200 for a 2080ti just to get what, 15-20%?

I guess I'm playing the wait and see game for the 3080ti, or whatever they call the next consumer oriented top big GPU part.
 
According to Raymond James analyst Chris Caso via HKEPC, NVIDIA has allegedly pushed Ampere back a few months, which is currently in the beginning of its ramp. Ampere is now set mainly for an announcement at GTC next year in late March. According to Caso NVIDIA plans to kick off Ampere's introduction with a new datacenter focused AI product first , i.e. an Ampere based TESLA accelerator at GTC.
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Well that's not really surprising since Samsung isn't proven like tsmc. So maybe late 2020 for RTX 3080 Ti if this is true which would be very disappointing.

Zarathustra[H] said:
I'm torn. I'm not buying a $2-$3k GPU like the Titan V or RTX Titan just on principle.

I've been tempted for so long to upgrade from my Pascal Titan X, but despite 3+ years having passed, there is still nothing in the real of sane pricing that is a sufficient upgrade to make the spending worth it.

I'm not going to spend another $1200 for a 2080ti just to get what, 15-20%?

I guess I'm playing the wait and see game for the 3080ti, or whatever they call the next consumer oriented top big GPU part.
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I feel exactly the same way, this Titan XP I have from August 2016 has been the longest i have ever owned any gpu. To think I might be hanging on to it another year because nVidia is too focused on it's datacenter business while gaming takes a back seat infuriates me. This is why a viable third player like intel needs to show up in a big way and soon.
 
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2 big questions...1) how much will the 3080 cost?...2) when is AMD releasing their ray-tracing lineup?
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
I'm torn. I'm not buying a $2-$3k GPU like the Titan V or RTX Titan just on principle.

I've been tempted for so long to upgrade from my Pascal Titan X, but despite 3+ years having passed, there is still nothing in the real of sane pricing that is a sufficient upgrade to make the spending worth it.

I'm not going to spend another $1200 for a 2080ti just to get what, 15-20%?

I guess I'm playing the wait and see game for the 3080ti, or whatever they call the next consumer oriented top big GPU part.
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Just a counter point. I got a TXP when they released. I've not had top change gpus in 4 years about. And it's STILL a badass card lol.
 
5150Joker said:
I feel exactly the same way, this Titan XP I have from August 2016 has been the longest i have ever owned any gpu. To think I might be hanging on to it another year because nVidia is too focused on it's datacenter business while gaming takes a back seat infuriates me. This is why a viable third player like intel needs to show up in a big way and soon.
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thesmokingman said:
Just a counter point. I got a TXP when they released. I've not had top change gpus in 4 years about. And it's STILL a badass card lol.
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Y'all be time traveling....

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The Xp has only been out for a little more than 2.5 years :p
 
Time for a new leather jacket I guess!

It is hard to swallow the price of a flagship card but honestly my Titan XP is over 3yrs old now and still runs everything on max 4K and I could still get a decent resale on it...
 
thesmokingman said:
I know right? The TXP is the oldest component in my rig now.
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Yep same, I built a new rig in Dec 2018 and all the components were brand new except the GPU so I ended up just getting a water block for it. It clocks to 2050 MHz in most games and temps stay in the 50s so it's giving me perf. likely at 2080 levels so there's no need for Tur(d)ing.
 
thesmokingman said:
I know right? The TXP is the oldest component in my rig now.
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Mine has been watercooled since day 1 :)

honestly I think it is the best value PC hardware I have purchased in a long time in terms of longevity.
 
5150Joker said:
To think I might be hanging on to it another year because nVidia is too focused on it's datacenter business while gaming takes a back seat infuriates me.
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If that's where the money is, expect Intel to be too focused on it too.
 
aokman said:
Mine has been watercooled since day 1 :)

honestly I think it is the best value PC hardware I have purchased in a long time in terms of longevity.
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Same here. The stock cooler still has the plastic on it.
 
I'll be picking up the next Ti as long as it is below $1400. That's how I roll.

My 2080 Ti didn't cost me too much because I got good money for my TXP. Will do the same again.
 
DooKey said:
I'll be picking up the next Ti as long as it is below $1400. That's how I roll.

My 2080 Ti didn't cost me too much because I got good money for my TXP. Will do the same again.
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You used to say that about $800 graphics cards . . .

odditory said:
If that's where the money is, expect Intel to be too focused on it too.
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It's all about TAM these days, one hint of it and investors get wet. It's about how many directions you can string your company out into, and let your core business get complacent and start shipping shit improvements on otherwise once class leading products, just ask Intel how it payed off for their main consumer class divisions
 
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5150Joker said:
Says August 2016 for the Titan X (Pascal). FYI Titan XP is the shorthand for that vs the later Titan Xp which was the slight update. My video card is older than my god damn phone at this point which is sad.
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Ah, fair enough. I never called mine XP because that's what they called the later slightly bigger core version.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Ah, fair enough. I never called mine XP because that's what they called the later slightly bigger core version.
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Never understood why it was so difficult for people to see the clear distinction between the naming schemes.

GTX Titan x = Maxwell

Nvidia Titan X = Pascal

So naturally the people that rolled with the unofficial Titan XP moniker got trolled hard by Nv when they put out an actual Titan Xpeeee. Hilarious.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
I'm torn. I'm not buying a $2-$3k GPU like the Titan V or RTX Titan just on principle.
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I agree. I wouldn't buy a Titan RTX for gaming either. The Titan RTX really isn't an xx80 Ti Super like the previous Titans were though. It's really just a 2080 Ti with more VRAM and is aimed at being an entry level pro card. That extra VRAM makes a pretty massive difference for the applications where it matters. Gaming is not one of those applications.

Zarathustra[H] said:
I'm not going to spend another $1200 for a 2080ti just to get what, 15-20%?

I guess I'm playing the wait and see game for the 3080ti, or whatever they call the next consumer oriented top big GPU part.
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Compared to a Titan X, you're probably looking at more like 40% performance jump to a 2080 Ti. If the 3080 Ti is 20% faster than the 2080 Ti, then you're looking at a 70% jump from the Titan X. That's pretty substantial.
 
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odditory said:
If that's where the money is, expect Intel to be too focused on it too.
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It's substantial but still not even half of what they make from gaming sales so one would think they wouldn't shit on their main source of revenue.

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Thunderdolt said:
I agree. I wouldn't buy a Titan RTX for gaming either. The Titan RTX really isn't an xx80 Ti Super like the previous Titans were though. It's really just a 2080 Ti with more VRAM and is aimed at being an entry level pro card. That extra VRAM makes a pretty massive difference for the applications where it matters. Gaming is not one of those applications.



Compared to a Titan X, you're probably looking at more like 40% performance jump to a 2080 Ti. If the 3080 Ti is 20% faster than the 2080 Ti, then you're looking at a 70% jump from the Titan X. That's pretty substantial.
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40% is a best case scenario, most of the time it's barely 30% or even under that. For example, Apex Legends (a game I play almost daily) the difference is around 22%ish assuming the Titan X (Pascal) being equivalent to a 1080 Ti FTW:

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5150Joker said:
40% is a best case scenario, most of the time it's barely 30% or even under that. For example, Apex Legends (a game I play almost daily) the difference is around 22%ish assuming the Titan X (Pascal) being equivalent to a 1080 Ti FTW:
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I only did a 10 second googling, but it looks like the 1080 Ti FTW3 is 10% faster than the 1080 Ti Ref, the latter being essentially the same as the Titan XP (I think - correct me if I'm wrong). Your chart shows a 25% gap between the 2080 Ti FE and the 1080 Ti FTW3. With the FTW3 being 1.0, the 1080 Ti Ref being .9, and the 2080 Ti FE being 1.25, that makes the 2080 Ti 39% faster than the 1080 Ti Ref. That would then make the hypothetical 3080 Ti FE, at my imaginary 20% boost over the 2080 Ti, 67% faster than the Titan XP.

So I think I stand by my numbers for now.
 
Thunderdolt said:
I only did a 10 second googling, but it looks like the 1080 Ti FTW3 is 10% faster than the 1080 Ti Ref, the latter being essentially the same as the Titan XP (I think - correct me if I'm wrong). Your chart shows a 25% gap between the 2080 Ti FE and the 1080 Ti FTW3. With the FTW3 being 1.0, the 1080 Ti Ref being .9, and the 2080 Ti FE being 1.25, that makes the 2080 Ti 39% faster than the 1080 Ti Ref. That would then make the hypothetical 3080 Ti FE, at my imaginary 20% boost over the 2080 Ti, 67% faster than the Titan XP.

So I think I stand by my numbers for now.
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It's been a while since I looked into this, but my understanding is that the 1080ti is actually slightly faster than the Titan XP stock to stock, but once you hit max overclock on both they are pretty much the same.
 
5150Joker said:
It's substantial but still not even half of what they make from gaming sales so one would think they wouldn't shit on their main source of revenue.

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You linked a 1080p test on a game that's not demanding on the gpu.
Come on, you should know better.



40% is a best case scenario, most of the time it's barely 30% or even under that. For example, Apex Legends (a game I play almost daily) the difference is around 22%ish assuming the Titan X (Pascal) being equivalent to a 1080 Ti FTW:

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