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As opposed to the half dozen + active threads already discussing Zen 2...?
Ryzen 4000 series seems to be the upgrade path for me from i7 4000 seriesLooking forward to it, competition is good for everyone.
4 way SMT. Hmm..
Guesses on performance of Ryzen 3950X vs TR 2950X?
I am tired switching intel socket every gen of CPU
I will buy the new amd series
I am tired switching intel socket every gen of CPU.
I will buy the new amd series.
Only 2 RAM channels though, right?Ryzen 3950X >20% over the TR. Clockspeed + IPC + RAM speed is going to add up.
Only 2 RAM channels though, right?
You may be right. I look forward to seeing the results. Looks like TR3 won't be here for a while.That's not really a limitation for the kind of use that the sixteen core parts will see. The lower latency and higher clockspeed will make more of a difference at the performance edge, I think.
I am tired switching intel socket every gen of CPU.
I will buy the new amd series.
Review: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (X470) (World Exclusive)
BY IVÁN MARTÍNEZ
06/24/2019
CPUS & APUS
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As is usual with the AMD news , we anticipate its official launch to bring you a juicy review of the new AMD Ryzen 5 3600 . It is true that we had to do it on a previous generation X470 motherboard , although with its BIOS updated to offer "total" compatibility (depending on the manufacturer) and drivers to the latest. Of course, do not worry, that shortly we will also have the review with an X570 board .
This review we could have published a few weeks ago, but we prefer to wait to have a final BIOS for the motherboard X470 and the X570, but for now the overclock does not work on the chosen motherboard, freezing the system just touch the multiplier.
Let's first see the technical specifications of this AMD Ryzen 5 3600 :
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Socket AM4
Fabrication process TSMC 7nm FinFET
Cores / Threads 6 cores / 12 threads
Base Frequency 3.60 GHz
Turbo frequency 4.20 GHz
Cache L3 32 MB
Memory Compatible DDR4-3200 Dual-Channel
PCIe PCIe 4.0 x16
TDP 65W
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AMD Ryzen 5 3600
- 1 AMD Ryzen 5 3600
- 2 Testing Equipment
- 3 Synthetic Tests
- 4 Benchmarks
- 5 Games
- 6 Temperature and Consumption
- 7 Conclusion
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In short, the AMD Ryzen 5 3600 is a revision of the Ryzen 5 2600 that maintains the 6 cores , which in turn offer 12 threads . It is true that it offers an improvement in frequencies, which are at 3.60 GHz of base and reach 4.20 GHz in Turbo mode , also increasing the L3 cache to 32 MB .
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As we can see in CPU-Z , the set of instructions supported has MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3 and SHA, the same as in previous generations of Ryzen .
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Obviously it is a processor for the AM4 socket and therefore makes use of the connection system " Pin Grip Array ", where the pins are in the processor and not in the motherboard.
Test Equipment
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To analyze the performance of the AMD Ryzen 5 3600 processor , we have mounted it on a Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 7 WiFi motherboard together with G.Skill FlareX DDR4 @ 3200 MHz memories and the Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition graphics . Obviously, we have installed BIOS F40 , the latest available, which gives "full" support for the new Ryzen 3000 , or so they promise.
It is true that we have been able to configure everything without problems and that the operation seems correct, although later we will see that the problems of the first generation of Ryzen processors with the memories seem to reproduce in latencies and copies.
Synthetic Tests
Next, we show you the results of the performance tests performed on this and other processors in calculation benchmarks (wPrime), rendering (Cinebench), coding (x264) and memories (Aida64) to analyze the mono and multithreading performance.
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Benchmarks
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Likewise, we have passed some of the most famous and representative benchmarks focused on games.
Games
Also analyzed the performance in games comparing it with the few processed that we have available for these titles, all of them in Full HD - Ultra .
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Temperature and Consumption
Under an ambient temperature of 20ºC, the AMD Ryzen 5 3600 offers temperatures of about 40ºC at rest and about 75ºC in its stress test, a really good value if we take into account that we have used the reference heatsink and that it is around 5ºC below what the previous generation achieved.
On the consumption, say that it has improved notably remaining around 125W for the complete equipment in the stress test of Aida64 (without disks or GPU) and around 360W for benchmarks in which if the graph intervenes. If we take into account that when we analyzed the Ryzen 5 2600 and the Ryzen 7 2700X , the difference in consumption was 55W , that we now have a difference of 65W in this test equipment between the Ryzen 5 3600 and the Ryzen 7 2700X tells us that Energy efficiency has not improved along with the 7 nm process.
conclusion
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The AMD Ryzen 5 3600 might seem to only mean a revision of frequencies on the Ryzen 5 2600 , but with an improvement in performance of around 20% in calculation tasks , there is something else. Its IPC has increased remarkably, improving in addition the performance in games , where it surpasses even the 2700X of previous generation and approaches the i9-9900K . We do not have an improvement in terms of efficiency compared to the previous generation if we compare consumption, but we do have it if we compare that it gives us more performance at the same consumption .
If we take into account that its launch price in Spain will be around 206-218 euros (according to Xtremmedia.com and GlobalData.pl stores ), which is the price of the Ryzen 7 2700 , we will take a processor that is notably better at Regarding IPC and something better in games, but slightly worse in multicore calculation. Your choice compensates, yes, but it is not the panacea. The AMD Ryzen 3000 goes on sale on July 7 , like the rest of reviews.
Main advantages
+ Notable improvement of the CPI compared to the previous generation
+ Excellent multi-core performance
+ Temperatures and consumption very good
+ 6 cores / 12 threads
+ Compatible with previous generation base plates
Negative aspects
- The memories seem not to go fine, even being specific to AMD
Other Aspects
* Sold with heatsink included
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Read more https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2019/06/amd-ryzen-5-3600-x470-review/
I'm guessing its probably a bios support issue which will be worked out over time. There's really no reason for it to be lower.It looks like the memory write numbers were low, if google translate is to be believed.
I'm guessing its probably a bios support issue which will be worked out over time. There's really no reason for it to be lower.
Can we not copy and paste (translated) reviews into threads?
If I want to know what the reviewers are saying, I'll go get Google to translate the review for me and read it myself. What I want to know from you is what you think the review adds to the discussion.
Can we not copy and paste (translated) reviews into threads?
If I want to know what the reviewers are saying, I'll go get Google to translate the review for me and read it myself. What I want to know from you is what you think the review adds to the discussion.
Most important thing is : is it compatible with Windows 7 Pro ?
Second most important : does it support ECC ram ?
Third most important : what about 128GB RAM (4x32GB). AMD said they will support but they never came back on this. We need 128GB ECC support. RAM IS cheap and everybody should update to the most he can manage to install.