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BTW. Thanks for RTX cards used 1080/Vega can be had for much less than before. People see no improvement but still upgrade and thins makes users getting still great products from used market to benefit from this release.
I myself bought like 6 new cards in all my graphics card buying history. HD3850 to quickly return it and get 8800GS, then GTX 460Ti, then GTX 660 to quickly sell it and get HD7950 and now RTX 2070. So far I do not plan to sell it before RTX 30x0 series comes out. Rest of my cards that I owned were second hand and represented much better value than any of the new cards.
If I was in financial situation to nitty pick about 100$ I then wouldn't care less for new GPU prices, let alone these which will come in few month.
And frankly this second hand card market is probably why AMD have hard time selling products despite being cheaper. Especially when older used GPU have less power consumption it kinda defeats purpose of getting new one. This is another reason why you cannot be 2 years behind in technology and expect to have good sales despite having better performance/price.
Now lets think about Navi launch: will there be used RTX cards on the market? or 1080Ti cards?
Would I get Navi if used RTX 2070 was cheaper, still have 2 years warranty and hardware DXR and DLSS? Hell no!
I wouldn't get new 2070 but something used or still use 980Ti which was sufficient for my needs if not gimmicky features that I have just to have it. And as unreasonable as it sounds those are the reason why people get cards with new DirectX versions as soon as they are released despite always support for these new features takes years. DXR is nothing new here. Where are my jaw dropping DirectX 12 games anyway? How many yeard DX10 remained irrelevant? So much DX11 replaced it and it took years to become must have.
Of course support for all new APIs did not always come at the same time. It is not by any means deal breaker but always caused better sales of cards that did support these APIs irrespectively of support from software.
I myself bought like 6 new cards in all my graphics card buying history. HD3850 to quickly return it and get 8800GS, then GTX 460Ti, then GTX 660 to quickly sell it and get HD7950 and now RTX 2070. So far I do not plan to sell it before RTX 30x0 series comes out. Rest of my cards that I owned were second hand and represented much better value than any of the new cards.
If I was in financial situation to nitty pick about 100$ I then wouldn't care less for new GPU prices, let alone these which will come in few month.
And frankly this second hand card market is probably why AMD have hard time selling products despite being cheaper. Especially when older used GPU have less power consumption it kinda defeats purpose of getting new one. This is another reason why you cannot be 2 years behind in technology and expect to have good sales despite having better performance/price.
Now lets think about Navi launch: will there be used RTX cards on the market? or 1080Ti cards?
Would I get Navi if used RTX 2070 was cheaper, still have 2 years warranty and hardware DXR and DLSS? Hell no!
I wouldn't get new 2070 but something used or still use 980Ti which was sufficient for my needs if not gimmicky features that I have just to have it. And as unreasonable as it sounds those are the reason why people get cards with new DirectX versions as soon as they are released despite always support for these new features takes years. DXR is nothing new here. Where are my jaw dropping DirectX 12 games anyway? How many yeard DX10 remained irrelevant? So much DX11 replaced it and it took years to become must have.
Of course support for all new APIs did not always come at the same time. It is not by any means deal breaker but always caused better sales of cards that did support these APIs irrespectively of support from software.