Ubiquiti Halts Production Of USG-XG-8

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UBNT is ceasing production of the USG-XG-8. I hope this isn't a road sign for further decline in Unifi products. The explanation they give seems a little flimsy to me.

We recently made the decision to halt production of additional units of the USG-XG-8 and wanted to explain exactly what this means and why we made this decision. We always want to keep customers well informed so they can make the best decisions for them and their UniFi deployments.

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi...Pylg54EcmB4AXbD8BUW8b4Aob1fcQrreR7AMOJyVnWats
 
Could be a legit reason, but from that statement it's just not really clear what the issue actually was.
 
Reading their article soudns to me like they didnt sell alot on first runs, and are still a "smallish" company and will focus else where .... then again I am a Ubiquiti fan boy...
 
The gist I get from the community forums seems to be a couple of things:

1) Way too expensive
2) UBNT moving away from whatever OS the XG-8 is using, must not be compatible with new software

Sounds like they are going to release a new version with the newer OS, potentially for a lot cheaper. We'll see.
 
The XG-8 was a bit wonky in initial provisioning if you did not have all 10Gb equip, ask me how I know :)

The design of the units switch ports I think was in two blocks, where 4 ports were part of switch 1 and the other 4 ports were part of switch 2. So, when you set one port, say on switch block 1 to 1Gb vs 10Gb, then all ports in that block changed with it. I think they will have more 10Gb designs coming out, but perhaps a bit more friendly.

I ended up selling mine in the meantime and went back to pfSense with a 10Gb add-on card, just fyi.
 
What was this product? The only Unifi products I ever ever used are their AP products.
 
S-F said:
UBNT is ceasing production of the USG-XG-8. I hope this isn't a road sign for further decline in Unifi products. The explanation they give seems a little flimsy to me.

We recently made the decision to halt production of additional units of the USG-XG-8 and wanted to explain exactly what this means and why we made this decision. We always want to keep customers well informed so they can make the best decisions for them and their UniFi deployments.

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi...Pylg54EcmB4AXbD8BUW8b4Aob1fcQrreR7AMOJyVnWats
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I don't even know what any of this is, never heard of it.
 
Still using my edgerouter from ubiquiti. Only time it ever gets reset is when power goes out longer than the ups can handle. I use their AP as well. Much less headache than I have had with the regular best buy consumer router crap.
 
So I work with Cisco all day, and outside of a few (glaring IMHO) things missing, the edgerouters are pretty decent kit for what you pay.

Wish they had PIM/multicast routing as well as vrf support, but outside of not having up gradable ram, they work fairly well.
 
cybrnook said:
A gateway capable of processing DPI and IPS blocking at gigabit speeds.
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...that integrated with the 'Unifi' single pane of glass, and had an eight-port SFP+ switch.

For use cases that needed all of that, it wasn't that expensive- but the reality is that said use cases were far and few between, and that someone / anyone wanting a USG and 1Gbps DPI and IPS was better served by putting a passive box behind a regular USG for that purpose and then uplinking to a layer 3 switch -- which also couldn't be Unifi, as they haven't gotten around to implementing layer 3 on their Unifi switches despite offering it on their Edgemax switches that use the same hardware.

Everything isn't all bad- they have a 'consumer' Unifi device that supports much higher throughput than either of their USGs short of the XG, but they really do need to focus on getting their ducks in a row.

A 1Gbps 'USG Pro' should have been available years ago.
 
tangoseal said:
They were charging just as much for the 8 as the 16. Why would anyone get the 8.
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Might you be confusing their router with their switch? Their naming is consistent but potentially confusing.

Darunion said:
Still using my edgerouter from ubiquiti. Only time it ever gets reset is when power goes out longer than the ups can handle. I use their AP as well. Much less headache than I have had with the regular best buy consumer router crap.
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Same here- very reliable. Great speeds with DPI off of the Edgerouter 4, and great coverage off of the UAP-AC-Pro.
 
/dev/null said:
So I work with Cisco all day, and outside of a few (glaring IMHO) things missing, the edgerouters are pretty decent kit for what you pay.

Wish they had PIM/multicast routing as well as vrf support, but outside of not having up gradable ram, they work fairly well.
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Being that I just converted a bunch of our stuff to Juniper and am now a fan I'll say: Check out Juniper for a middle ground :D. They aren't super cheap, but better than Cisco and support all the features you could want. I'm pretty happy in terms of what you get for your dollar with them, and Junos is actually pretty awesome once you get to know it.

In terms of best value for money, check out fs.com. They sell extremely cheap optics and cables, but also switches. There's no support, and I don't even know if they have a competent RMA department (never had to use it) but man in terms of what you get for your dollar it is unbeatable. Only pizza box L3 switches though, not a full range of network equipment. I decided that I wanted real support for core infrastructure hence Juniper but I use them for labs and shit like that.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
For use cases that needed all of that, it wasn't that expensive- but the reality is that said use cases were far and few between, and that someone / anyone wanting a USG and 1Gbps DPI and IPS was better served by putting a passive box behind a regular USG for that purpose and then uplinking to a layer 3 switch -- which also couldn't be Unifi, as they haven't gotten around to implementing layer 3 on their Unifi switches despite offering it on their Edgemax switches that use the same hardware.
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Yep :)

However, I think the L3 switch is out now. At least in the beta store 24 port and 48 port are there. So it's coming.....


"The USW-Pro-24-POE is a configurable Gigabit Layer2 and Layer3 switch with auto-sensing 802.3at PoE+ and 802.3bt PoE++. Sixteen PoE+ and eight PoE++ RJ45 ethernet ports have total 400W PoE budget, and two SFP+ ports offer 10Gbps uplink options. Near-silent cooling and a 1.3" touch LCM.

Note: Layer3 will be included in later software release"
 
Well, that USW-Pro-24-POE is about perfect- even more so if it can be had without POE at a lower cost and perhaps fanless, as Mikrotik is fond of doing.
 
cybrnook said:
Yep :)

However, I think the L3 switch is out now. At least in the beta store 24 port and 48 port are there. So it's coming.....


"The USW-Pro-24-POE is a configurable Gigabit Layer2 and Layer3 switch with auto-sensing 802.3at PoE+ and 802.3bt PoE++. Sixteen PoE+ and eight PoE++ RJ45 ethernet ports have total 400W PoE budget, and two SFP+ ports offer 10Gbps uplink options. Near-silent cooling and a 1.3" touch LCM.

Note: Layer3 will be included in later software release"
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Layer3 is a pretty broad term.

Some vendors consider supporting multiple static routes as "layer 3"

For me, Layer 3 is supporting at least 2 or 3 major routing protocols (& at least BGP), access-lists, etc.
 
/dev/null said:
Layer3 is a pretty broad term.

Some vendors consider supporting multiple static routes as "layer 3"

For me, Layer 3 is supporting at least 2 or 3 major routing protocols (& at least BGP), access-lists, etc.
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I just want intervlan routing, so a 'smart' switch is fine; it doesn't need to 'route' so much as not rely on a router for otherwise 'local' traffic.
 
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