Why are PC gaming developers going tone deaf?

Chas said:
I started out on a computer screen not much larger than my phone.

Won't go back.

The total online reaction is too much.

The people who paid to go to Blizzcon have some right to be pissed. Giant marketing blunder, and effectively audience abuse.
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The online reaction is aimed at the fact that they announced a mobile game as their main attraction at blizzcon. Not that they announced a mobile game.
 
M76 said:
The online reaction is aimed at the fact that they announced a mobile game as their main attraction at blizzcon. Not that they announced a mobile game.
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Honestly, I could give a shit whether they announced DI at Blizzcon.
It's one more product in their lineup. BFD.

It's just, bringing all those people to Blizzcon, announcing it the way they did, and then attacking their fans for thinking they were punked and weren't going "If it's named "Diablo, we'll buy the fuck outta that!"
 
Armenius said:
It's what happens when you replace developers with marketers. Also, big data is the new trendy thing. Large companies believe that all the data they're collecting or buying takes out the risk of investment because it tells them ahead of time what the market "wants." It's why companies like Blizzard can tell customers "you don't know what you want" these days because they believe they have the data to back up that statement.

The above combined with the fact that most of them are living in an echo chamber supported by the press that gobbles their cocks it's no wonder the gaming industry is in this state.
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I find it hilarious people are mad at Bethesda and Blizzard. It's easy for me since I don't care for Diablo and Fallout but I do care for Doom and StarCraft. Evil people control these companies and they will not stop until the games we enjoy are destroyed. Just you wait for game streaming to become "good enough". Our hobby is doomed, I tell you. DOOOMED
 
Because they have their ears plugged with all that money.
 
I can’t stand mobile gaming.

1) I am tied to my phone for my job way too much as it is. I don’t want to spend my leisure time also tied to my phone. And if I want to play games on the go, I have a Switch, with actual buttons.

2) 99% of mobile games are designed to exploit you for money and not as a stand-alone gaming experience.

Just no. Please stop.
 
More and more you have to have your cell around your nexk just to log into the ever growing list of site that require two factor authentication via cell code
 
Azureth said:
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Regarding Blizzard, remember that it's Activision Blizzard now, and then remember how shit Activision has always been.
 
I kinda miss that guy. Personally I don’t think the new guy has carried the torch very well.
 
Grimlaking said:
We have two major publishers that have seemingly lost the needle on their compass.

Bethesda with Fallout 76, 96, something six. A multiplayer PVP based Fallout game with no in depth single player story line. That isn't fallout to me and it seems they are doing it just to do it with SOME IP. I don't see this as being a big win going forward... maybe I'll be wrong.

Blizzard with the blind cash grab and announcing it to a room packed full of long time Diablo PC Fans. What they hell were they thinking with this? Again they lost the needle. I hope they can find it again.

Any other major developers that have just left their fan base behind and gone way off track?
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It's hard to argue "tone deaf" when the money is there. Fact is, games have gotten so massive that developers can't really afford to make then anymore. They need long term revenue streams in order to recoup investments. Hence loot boxes and MMOs.
 
Diablo on mobile makes a ton of sense to me. Announcing it at Blizzcon as a major game release may have not been the best idea. Despite the tons of complaining it will make big bank.

I remember all the hate for Hearthstone and now look how big that's gotten.
 
I've lost three friends to gaming; one to evercrack, one to candy crush, and one to age of empires.

They are this generations Crack cocaine, with all the negatives, and no positives I can see.

At this point, not seeing them is a positive, I guess. :)

I like gaming, but I refuse to buy a game that needs my credit card to play, lol.

I'll stick with Steam's bargain bin for my bored times.

One guy was telling me he didn't have a problem, he didn't spend more than $100 a week, in good weeks. :)
 
MavericK said:
Regarding Blizzard, remember that it's Activision Blizzard now, and then remember how shit Activision has always been.
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Activision has not always been shit. Their downturn started around the 7th console generation when the era of DLC was ushered in and their portfolio went from being really diverse to only holding sequels of guaranteed revenue generating franchises and licensed content.
 
Armenius said:
Activision has not always been shit. Their downturn started around the 7th console generation when the era of DLC was ushered in and their portfolio went from being really diverse to only holding sequels of guaranteed revenue generating franchises and licensed content.
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Activision had it's name to a bunch of great games on C64. Although I have to admit I don't remember if they did anything memorable between now and then.
 
M76 said:
Activision had it's name to a bunch of great games on C64. Although I have to admit I don't remember if they did anything memorable between now and then.
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MechWarrior 2, for one, both developed and published by Activision. Also, every id game since Quake II up to their acquisition by Zenimax had been published by Activision. They also kicked off that music game craze in the mid-'00s with a little known game called Guitar Hero.
 
Armenius said:
MechWarrior 2, for one, both developed and published by Activision. Also, every id game since Quake II up to their acquisition by Zenimax had been published by Activision. They also kicked off that music game craze in the mid-'00s with a little known game called Guitar Hero.
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To me guitar hero is little known :p I've checked the list in the meantime, yes they published a bunch of good games.
 
Marketers haven't replaced developers. The rule of market economics is you follow the money and try to make as much as possible. Like it or not you and your platform are not special or better than the alternatives. Right now there are markets for both multiplatform big launch titles that combine PC/PS/XBOX as well as mobiles that combine Android/iOS. Most companies have come to the (rational if you want to remain relevant" realization that you need to be on both.

Sort of how Marvel can push titles both in the theater and on Netflix. They compliment each other, they aren't really directly competing.
 
Armenius said:
Activision has not always been shit. Their downturn started around the 7th console generation when the era of DLC was ushered in and their portfolio went from being really diverse to only holding sequels of guaranteed revenue generating franchises and licensed content.
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Indeed. Activision's line up was top of the line in most of the 2000s.

As for Blizzard no being Blizzard. People forget they used to be owned by Vivendi. Here's something that might be of interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivendi#Origins said:
On 14 December 1853, a water company named Compagnie Générale des Eaux (CGE) was created by an imperial decree of Napoleon III.[1] In 1854, CGE obtained a concession in order to supply water to the public in Lyon, serving in that capacity for over a hundred years. In 1861, it obtained a 50-year concession with the City of Paris.[22] CGE also supplied water to Nantes, Venice (from 1880), Constantinople (from 1882) and Porto (from 1883).[1] For more than a century, Compagnie Générale des Eaux remained largely focused on the water sector.
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Armenius said:
MechWarrior 2, for one, both developed and published by Activision.
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The MW2 engine was the core of several Activision games in the 1990s; MW2 Mercenaries, Interstate 76 and 82, Heavy Gear, Battlezone (1998) . Before EA Sports recycled their sports games every year under different annual names, or recycling CoD iterations every 18-24 months with the same engine- Activision had the practice to a science. :cool:

But I did love those MW2 clones/re-wraps. (and Hyperblade!) And I loved the 80s 2600 classics too. But Activision hasn't been the same to me since before 2000.
 
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