First Ryzen 5 2500U Benchmarks Are In: “Intel Has Every Reason to Worry”

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The first laptop with an AMD Ryzen mobile processor, HP Envy x360, is now available for purchase. Results suggest that AMD’s first Ryzen Mobile chip to hit the streets outperforms Intel’s 7th-gen Core U-series dual-core notebook processors by a wide margin and stays pretty competitive with Intel 8th-gen quad-core chips.

Power consumption results are just as incredible for Our Ryzen 5 model. The AMD HP notebook manages to be less demanding that the Spectre x360 15 with the i7-7500U CPU and GeForce 940MX dGPU while providing a roughly 50 percent boost in multi-thread CPU performance and 20 percent boost in GPU performance. The performance-per-watt is even more impressive when compared to AMD's own demanding mobile RX 460 GPU.
 
Flogger23m said:
I'd like to see some benchmarks in real world applications.
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beaten by MX150 (obviously)
beats everything lower and on par with intel in singlethread and multicore (there is no difference really) but it provides equal power footprint however it seems like video playback suffers "abnormal" high power consumption so only "5 hours" playback.
it could easily be 6 hours at least with some drivers fixed for video.

I see no reason why these shouldn't sell like hot cakes and receive praise as long as people understand this APU is a 15-25W part and not a 45 W part... I see people elsewhere complain about no dedicated hbm memory... on a ultrabook with max 50 watt total system power...

Finally competition! but the market in the dedicated tier will turn more interesting with intel+amd, intel+nvidia, amd+amd and maybe amd+nvidia.
Wonder how it'll turn out :D
 
Cool. Raven Ridge will be in my next laptop. My Skylake i5 Dell is fine at web/office stuff but the igpu is sucko at games, even at 720p.
 
I want to support amd, the next laptop I need to buy for an employee, we will try this!
 
KazeoHin said:
Quick! Signal the Intel Defense Force™! Their Rhetoric and FUD are needed to save the poor, struggling Intel!
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They are pushing the forefront of the new semiconductor design. I'm not worried about them. If anything they need some competition so they will stop resting on their laurels.

You have to realize, it's not a simple AMD vs INTEL competition. AMD licences the x86 design from Intel. Intel still wins.
 
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does this mean Intel will now properly TIM/solder their CPU's ?
 
Man, I've wanted an AMD laptop for so long. The mobile offerings from intel have always felt like a net-zero upgrade each time, bleh.
 
viscountalpha said:
They are pushing the forefront of the new semiconductor design. I'm not worried about them. If anything they need some competition so they will stop resting on their laurels.

You have to realize, it's not a simple AMD vs INTEL competition. AMD licences the x86 design from Intel. Intel still wins.
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And Intel gets the AMD64 license from AMD.....
 
viscountalpha said:
They are pushing the forefront of the new semiconductor design. I'm not worried about them. If anything they need some competition so they will stop resting on their laurels.

You have to realize, it's not a simple AMD vs INTEL competition. AMD licences the x86 design from Intel. Intel still wins.
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You have to realize that Intel licences the x86-64 design from AMD.
 
i'm starting to regret buying my acer now but it has the GTX 950m in it which still performs faster so maybe not.. either way this just makes me even more excited for the desktop varients.
 
I still have a sandy bridge i7 laptop that rocks, but I’m always up for upgrades as I want a much lighter laptop. I will of course expect high end screens even if it has mediocre specs as long as I can upgrade.

If the x360 is that cheap then he’ll yea, I’ll get that.
 
Who would have thought Ryzen chips running at similar clock speeds as Intel parts in notebooks would be competitive; if you didn't see this coming, you had your head stuck in the sand.

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does this mean Intel will now properly TIM/solder their CPU's ?
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No, mobile chips don't have heat spreaders to begin with.
 
KazeoHin said:
Quick! Signal the Intel Defense Force™! Their Rhetoric and FUD are needed to save the poor, struggling Intel!
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Shitty, coloured text posts and excel bar graphs from some unknown site incoming! They'll probably not reply here to try bury the thread instead, anything AMD positive (thread title-wise) is usually avoided.

Very interested in grabbing one of these Raven Ridge rigs when I'm next overseas.
 
Heres what I want.

2500U
8GBs RAM (and no single channel bullshit)
M.2 slot (with additional 2.5")
1080p IPS (Dont give me that touch shit either)
Backlit Keyboard

All in a 14" form factor and it needs to be Linux compatible with a No OS option at purchase.
 
it needs to be Linux compatible
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I have not seen any word on if the mobile CPUs have the linux smp bug that the AM4 processors have. TR seems does not appear to have this bug (there has not been any TR discussion in the thread). It is clear that the bug was not limited to just the early CPUs. With that said an RMA to AMD and they will send you a bug free CPU but I don't see how that works for a mobile processor.

https://community.amd.com/thread/215773?start=0&tstart=0
 
drescherjm said:
I have not seen any word on if the mobile CPUs have the linux smp bug that the AM4 processors have. TR seems does not appear to have this bug (there has not been any TR discussion in the thread). It is clear that the bug was not limited to just the early CPUs. With that said an RMA to AMD and they will send you a bug free CPU but I don't see how that works for a mobile processor.

https://community.amd.com/thread/215773?start=0&tstart=0
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Two words: Microcode updates. It doesn't require a new chip as the silicon is the same. They have been on every processor since Intel Pentium Pro, as a result of the floating point disaster of the original pentium. Microcode allows you to create patches, but it might significantly slow down the processor.
 
I doubt that will happen being that it is many months that AMD has known about this issue and it has still not been fixed by a microcode update. If you have a CPU that exhibits this bug an RMA is currently the only way to get a working CPU.
 
Dang, my Christmas list is already made out.
Was needing a replacement laptop but scored a Dell Inspiron for free. Put linux on it and said "meh, it will work" Getting back into car audio a little and asking Santa (my wife) for a car amp and sub. :D
 
Every AMD GPU release was supposed to crush Nvidia. I will say AMD has the best PR machine going in the whole world. With their legions of dedicated fans that is forever unwavering, forever optimistic, and always giving AMD the benefit of doubt.
 
snowcrash said:
Every AMD GPU release was supposed to crush Nvidia. I will say AMD has the best PR machine going in the whole world. With their legions of dedicated fans that is forever unwavering, forever optimistic, and always giving AMD the benefit of doubt.
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Good enough PR that people like you don't buy them when they are superior products... come on now.
 
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Every AMD GPU release was supposed to crush Nvidia. I will say AMD has the best PR machine going in the whole world. With their legions of dedicated fans that is forever unwavering, forever optimistic, and always giving AMD the benefit of doubt.
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Yet numbers don't lie here.
 
N4CR said:
Good enough PR that people like you don't buy them when they are superior products... come on now.
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Because only fools believe all the pre-hype. The smart ones will check the reviews like [H]'s before buying.
DigitalGriffin said:
Yet numbers don't lie here.
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Do you guys have selective memory or just intentionally ignoring whatever happened on the GPU side? Do you know how many times "Numbers don't lie" was said on AMD GPU pre-releases?

It's great that AMD is doing very well on the CPU side. And so do everyone because competition is great and is absolutely necessary. However, based on the history of AMD's GPU side, I'll believe it when it is reviewed here by Kyle and I see cold hard numbers that didn't end up being a lie and cannot be refuted.
 
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snowcrash said:
Because only fools believe all the pre-hype. The smart ones will check the reviews like [H]'s before buying.

Do you guys have selective memory or just intentionally ignoring whatever happened on the GPU side? Do you know how many times "Numbers don't lie" was said on AMD GPU pre-releases?

It's great that AMD is doing very well on the CPU side. And so do everyone because competition is great and is absolutely necessary. However, based on the history of AMD's GPU side, I'll believe it when it is reviewed here by Kyle and I see cold hard numbers that didn't end up being a lie and cannot be refuted.
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The hell are you talking about? [H] doesn't review laptops or mobile processors. The numbers are from a retail device that you can buy now. There is nothing pre-release about it. Notebook Check is also one of the best sources out there for a wide range of information on the performance of laptop hardware. If you want to dig around more there is some video on Youtube of the laptop playing some games, with FPS numbers shown.
 
I'm still curious about these as I'm also curious about the four-core Intel 15W parts.

Performance plugged into a wall is one thing; I want to know how well they all hold up in identical configurations doing actual ultrabook stuff over time, away from the wall.

[gaming performance is nice and all, but if you've gamed on an ultrabook... yeah]
 
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