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M76 said:
And religious principles are more important now than actual principles?
Most religions are just an idea coined in the iron age, it shouldn't have protection under law. And more importantly someone's chosen religion shouldn't have power over someone else.
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Umm, principles are just principles, religious or otherwise. Naming something a "religious" principle is just a way of saying "your principles are bullshit because they are religious".

I don't even go to church but I have to argue this stuff.

Look, I've met some of the nicest people who just happen to go to Church every Sunday. I had to fire my kid's Piano teacher because he couldn't keep his professional duties and religious belief's in balance. So what I am saying is that I'm not strongly vested one way or the other. But while I don't have some sort of personal iron in the fire, I think it's short-sighted to simple dismiss things because they have the smell of religon on them. Sometimes there are good, compassionate, sensible, fair, and intelligent people who simply gravitate towards a church. The sit in the same pews with a few idealogs and zealots too. I just think some people don't get the strong relationships and support mechanisms the exist because of Churches and all the good that they do manage to pull off in the world.

It's not just pogroms and crusades, there's work to be done, it can't all be just the fun stuff :ROFLMAO:
 
M76 said:
.........The burden of proof is always with the one making the claim. I can't challenge an assertion. I can challenge the reasoning behind it. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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It's not about proof, it's about belief, belief doesn't have to be based in anything other than belief. But that's why you don't like it, it doesn't fit.

The only real question is, can you respect someone's right to their beliefs as long as they respect your right to take a different path?
 
Lenard said:
Nazis are socialists. I would link you to the evidence, but their websites and podcasts keep getting shut down. Nazis are not "the right"
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It's the facist left against the national socialist left. I'm a liberal, registered Democrat (who voted Trump because I'm working class and the Dems abandoned me to push racist and sexist identity politics). I really have no idea what to vote for anymore. Seems like everyone's gone crazy. But I'm sure that's just the impression I get from the fake news.
 
Not sure if this is even about alt left or alt right. They aren't even left or right to begin with.

Both antifa and neo nazi / supremacist come with hate and violence. It doesn't represent anything other than terrorism.

Paypal treat terrorist all the same way.
 
I hope they do apply company policy in an equal way, because the bias has been showing for quite some time. Some companies lost lot of money doing that with politically contrived policies and I'm surprised paypal already hasn't.

This same slant seems to leak out in to real life with institutional racism and the like. I do hope the general population of this world also applies the same approach as Paypal should to things like Black pride, Asian pride, Jewish pride, Latino pride, Gay pride, LXCYV pride, hold on, hold your horses; White pride is automatically 100% nadzees or other 'ism term, yet should you be ashamed of yourself for having any pride in your white culture?
People seem to forget whites are a minority in the world and one of the smallest ethnic groups there is. Why are they not allowed equal minority rights like every other tom, dick and harry, even in white majority countries? Black or Asian majority countries are fine and spared from the deluge of immigration for some reason, yet no one says a thing.

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This same racism and bias has been applied in all facets of life for a silenced minority, from online funding to government support, through to university entrance, under the guise of equality when it is clearly anything but.
 
After having discussed racial issues here before, I am not surprised that so many here can't condemn the Nazi wannabes in Charlottesville, VA without pulling the "whatabout" card.

N4CR said:
I hope they do apply company policy in an equal way, because the bias has been showing for quite some time. Some companies lost lot of money doing that with politically contrived policies and I'm surprised paypal already hasn't.

This same slant seems to leak out in to real life with institutional racism and the like. I do hope the general population of this world also applies the same approach as Paypal should to things like Black pride, Asian pride, Jewish pride, Latino pride, Gay pride, LXCYV pride, hold on, hold your horses; White pride is automatically 100% nadzees or other 'ism term, yet should you be ashamed of yourself for having any pride in your white culture?
People seem to forget whites are a minority in the world and one of the smallest ethnic groups there is. Why are they not allowed equal minority rights like every other tom, dick and harry, even in white majority countries? Black or Asian majority countries are fine and spared from the deluge of immigration for some reason, yet no one says a thing.

This same racism and bias has been applied in all facets of life for a silenced minority, from online funding to government support, through to university entrance, under the guise of equality when it is clearly anything but.
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I have no problems with "white pride" in and of itself. Thing is, I'm not aware of any "white pride" group that doesn't have some connection to Nazi wannabes or other white nationalists/supremacists/identitarians/whatever they want to call themselves. But if you're aware of a "white pride" group that doesn't have a connection to these groups, I'd love to read about them.
 
alexyang said:
After having discussed racial issues here before, I am not surprised that so many here can't condemn the Nazi wannabes in Charlottesville, VA without pulling the "whatabout" card.



I have no problems with "white pride" in and of itself. Thing is, I'm not aware of any "white pride" group that doesn't have some connection to Nazi wannabes or other white nationalists/supremacists/identitarians/whatever they want to call themselves. But if you're aware of a "white pride" group that doesn't have a connection to these groups, I'd love to read about them.
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I couldn't say.

I'm White

I'm more proud of what I have done in my life then my skin which will prolly be showing some liver spots sooner then I like

Some I'm not so much "pro" anything as I am "anti" cause I really don't like assholes.

In fact, doctors who work on assholes are guilty by association as far as I'm concerned.

Those proctologists can keep their asshole violating fingers to themselves
 
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Yeah yeah "alt left is just as bad as alt right"

This is the alt-right people.... there is no comparison... there is no equal...Alt-right = terrorists in the closet.

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alexyang said:
After having discussed racial issues here before, I am not surprised that so many here can't condemn the Nazi wannabes in Charlottesville, VA without pulling the "whatabout" card.

I have no problems with "white pride" in and of itself. Thing is, I'm not aware of any "white pride" group that doesn't have some connection to Nazi wannabes or other white nationalists/supremacists/identitarians/whatever they want to call themselves. But if you're aware of a "white pride" group that doesn't have a connection to these groups, I'd love to read about them.
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La Raza, BLM, Black Panthers, Antifa (not a race of course) etc all have called for killing white people. They are no different in many, many ways to what are represented on media as 'Nazis' and act no different to what is represented as Nazi behaviour.
The whole point of racial pride is placing your own people before others, it doesn't mean you hate other races, nor not respect or wish for them to have their own culture and countries - a true National Socialist would know this, whilst a Neo-Nazi wanker, or Nazi wannabe (great term by the way) or perhaps even provocateurs in some cases, whom most people are taught to think are real the 'real deal', do not. They simply use the symbols of the ideology and identify with a completely incorrect perception or propagandised perception of National Socialism.

I'll leave you with a quote before I hit the hay. For some strange reason you don't find it in the history books.

“Pride in one’s race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their history is superior to our own.
They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them.”
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nysmo said:
Yeah yeah "alt left is just as bad as alt right"
This is the alt-right people.... there is no comparison... there is no equal...Alt-right = terrorists in the closet.
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Oh so shooting Senators, bike lock attacks, acid attacks, beatings, murders, shootings, death threats etc are fine if they're done by the 'alt-left' then?
The car should never have been near those people, there should have been cordons in place and not mixing the two groups together.
This can be blamed on the driver, the people who hit the car, the people who let the car be there in the first place by mixing two protest groups, the mayor and city board for pulling 1 month prior permits, with 15 minutes notice, etc etc.
 
nysmo said:
Yeah yeah "alt left is just as bad as alt right"

This is the alt-right people.... there is no comparison... there is no equal...Alt-right = terrorists in the closet.

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This is for ye of little memory:
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Lets not play shit games and discuss which one was worse or more evil.
If that's too hard to believe they're both nut job extremists, then how about this guy?
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He's lucky he didn't have worse injuries.
 
N4CR said:
La Raza, BLM, Black Panthers, Antifa (not a race of course) etc all have called for killing white people. They are no different in many, many ways to what are represented on media as 'Nazis' and act no different to what is represented as Nazi behaviour.
The whole point of racial pride is placing your own people before others, it doesn't mean you hate other races, nor not respect or wish for them to have their own culture and countries - a true National Socialist would know this, whilst a Neo-Nazi wanker, or Nazi wannabe (great term by the way) or perhaps even provocateurs in some cases, whom most people are taught to think are real the 'real deal', do not. They simply use the symbols of the ideology and identify with a completely incorrect perception or propagandised perception of National Socialism.
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Sounds to me like you consider yourself a "true National Socialist."

I'll leave you with a quote before I hit the hay. For some strange reason you don't find it in the history books.
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Apparently that quote is sourced to Adolf Hitler, though the accuracy of the sourcing is questionable. Since history is written by the victors, why am I not surprised that we don't find it in the history books?

I am also not surprised that an apparent self-described "true National Socialist" is quoting Adolf Hitler on race favorably. Now, to be clear, just because Hitler said something doesn't mean it's wrong. Hitler supported animal rights; that doesn't mean supporting animal rights is wrong or evil.

But we aren't talking about animal rights here. We're talking about race, and you're quoting Adolf Hitler on race. Favorably.

Judging from your English spelling, I assume you aren't American, so I guess I don't really care if you're a "true National Socialist." I just wish you wouldn't beat around the bush and would just own up to it directly without any of this circumlocution.
 
alexyang said:
No, it's not OK, and neither is "whataboutism."
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Thats not my point and you know it. My point was the OP of the comment said there was no comparison between "alt left" and "alt right" implying that "alt left" was never violent or that if they were it must be acceptable. Clearly that is a fallacy.
 
kju1 said:
Thats not my point and you know it. My point was the OP of the comment said there was no comparison between "alt left" and "alt right" implying that "alt left" was never violent or that if they were it must be acceptable. Clearly that is a fallacy.
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No, I don't know that's your point because I don't know you. You are trying to draw some sort of equivalence between an organized event called "Unite the Right" and an arsonist named Raymon Carter.

What evidence do you have that Raymon Carter is part of this so-called "alt-left"? No straw man, I'd love to read your evidence.
 
alexyang said:
No, it's not OK, and neither is "whataboutism."
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It seems to be typical of left leaning folks to excuse one side of the violence and focus on the other because one side's ideology is anti bigotry (while beating those who dare to disagree) and the other side is about adding identity politics (which the left loves) to whites.
Identity politics is cancer so i don't like seeing it anywhere, but the left is applying it to people's jobs and companies are adopting it (looking at you google), so it's inescapable. Might as well go full cancer until it's excised for good.
 
Gigus Fire said:
It seems to be typical of left leaning folks to excuse one side of the violence and focus on the other because one side's ideology is anti bigotry (while beating those who dare to disagree) and the other side is about adding identity politics (which the left loves) to whites.
Identity politics is cancer so i don't like seeing it anywhere, but the left is applying it to people's jobs and companies are adopting it (looking at you google), so it's inescapable. Might as well go full cancer until it's excised for good.
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It's typical of any hateful group, hell it's just typical of people in general.

Does the old saying "Sauce for the goose.." ring any bells. If normal people in their regular lives pull this stunt where things always apply to "other" people, but not to one's self, then why would it be any different with more "involved" people?

People do what people do, and if their being assholes or jerks, then it's just more of the same, or more to the extreme is all. But it's not a case of this behavior being owned by any one group or some other group never does this.
 
alexyang said:
No, I don't know that's your point because I don't know you. You are trying to draw some sort of equivalence between an organized event called "Unite the Right" and an arsonist named Raymon Carter.

What evidence do you have that Raymon Carter is part of this so-called "alt-left"? No straw man, I'd love to read your evidence.
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Is that all you can do is make excuses? Simple reading of what I posted both in comments and links would give you the answer. Your original deleted post said "is that all you people can do" which tells me you have zero desire to actually have a discourse.

Let me make it simple:

1) The far left groups felt the Baltimore riots were justified.
2) He was a rioter and thus presumably agreed with #1
3) He was violent thus tying violence to far left groups.

Seems pretty clear to me that the left is equally as capable of violence, be it pulling down statues, burning buildings, or shooting senators as the right is. What I dont get is why you cant, or wont, admit that both extremes exist. This is pretty typical of liberals in my experience. They preach equality and tolerance...so long as you agree with them. If you dont...you're out and scum.
 
Is now a good time to mention the proper fucking that AMD is doing with the Vega pricing!?!?! CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!? TOOTHLESS REDNECKS AND UNEMPLOYED GRAPHIC ARTISTS CAN WALK DOWN THE STREET, HAND IN HAND, AND AGREE THAT THIS IS BULLSHIT...CAN'T WE!?!?!?!
 
HeadRusch said:
Is now a good time to mention the proper fucking that AMD is doing with the Vega pricing!?!?! CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!? TOOTHLESS REDNECKS AND UNEMPLOYED GRAPHIC ARTISTS CAN WALK DOWN THE STREET, HAND IN HAND, AND AGREE THAT THIS IS BULLSHIT...CAN'T WE!?!?!?!
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Keep your hands to yourself you Twinky !


:D:ROFLMAO:;):D Just teasing
 
Snowdensjacket said:
It's the facist left against the national socialist left. I'm a liberal, registered Democrat (who voted Trump because I'm working class and the Dems abandoned me to push racist and sexist identity politics). I really have no idea what to vote for anymore. Seems like everyone's gone crazy. But I'm sure that's just the impression I get from the fake news.
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I feel bad for you it seems you have been completely abandoned... but I feel the same except I am on the other side of the isle (conservative leaning middle), voted for Trump expecting more, but not getting what I want and seems to be getting a bunch of shit I don't want. And I am afraid of what my follow after him... the whole political spectrum now feels like we have opened a Pandora's Box...
 
lcpiper said:
Yup, nothing but love and harmony here;

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There are assholes everywhere.
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This was not an attempt at mass murder, unlike what righties call for. That rightwinger nazi was trying to kill what he saw as at least 30-40 people. Him only getting 1 was just bad luck.
 
nysmo said:
This was not an attempt at mass murder, unlike what righties call for. That rightwinger nazi was trying to kill what he saw as at least 30-40 people. Him only getting 1 was just bad luck.
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That doesnt make it right.
 
kju1 said:
Is that all you can do is make excuses? Simple reading of what I posted both in comments and links would give you the answer. Your original deleted post said "is that all you people can do" which tells me you have zero desire to actually have a discourse.
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What excuses have I made? I asked you for evidence that the arsonist Raymon Carter is a part of the "alt-left." Instead of providing evidence, you go with the tried-and-true "do my work for me" trick.

Yes, my original deleted post said "Is that" (referring to whataboutism) "all you people can do?" So far, it looks like the answer is yes. You can't condemn Nazis on their own without going whatabout antifa? Whatabout the alt-left? Whatabout Raymon Carter?

Let me make it simple:

1) The far left groups felt the Baltimore riots were justified.
2) He was a rioter and thus presumably agreed with #1
3) He was violent thus tying violence to far left groups.

Seems pretty clear to me that the left is equally as capable of violence, be it pulling down statues, burning buildings, or shooting senators as the right is. What I dont get is why you cant, or wont, admit that both extremes exist. This is pretty typical of liberals in my experience. They preach equality and tolerance...so long as you agree with them. If you dont...you're out and scum.
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1) True.
2) And here's where you start failing. Yes, Raymon Carter was a rioter. He committed arson. But by your own choice of words, you are admitting that you are ASSUMING that he was connected to the far left. You have no evidence, so you are forced to say "thus presumably." Presumably ain't evidence.

3) He was violent, yes. He committed arson. But since you have no evidence that he was connected to the far left, as shown by your own choice of word - "presumably" - you cannot tie his crime of arson to the far left.

Sheesh.

OF COURSE there is violence from the left. Weather Underground, anyone? What I don't get is why ahem, "some people," cough can't condemn Nazi wannabes on their own without playing "whataboutantifa."
 
alexyang said:
What excuses have I made? I asked you for evidence that the arsonist Raymon Carter is a part of the "alt-left." Instead of providing evidence, you go with the tried-and-true "do my work for me" trick.

Yes, my original deleted post said "Is that" (referring to whataboutism) "all you people can do?" So far, it looks like the answer is yes. You can't condemn Nazis on their own without going whatabout antifa? Whatabout the alt-left? Whatabout Raymon Carter?



1) True.
2) And here's where you start failing. Yes, Raymon Carter was a rioter. He committed arson. But by your own choice of words, you are admitting that you are ASSUMING that he was connected to the far left. You have no evidence, so you are forced to say "thus presumably." Presumably ain't evidence.

3) He was violent, yes. He committed arson. But since you have no evidence that he was connected to the far left, as shown by your own choice of word - "presumably" - you cannot tie his crime of arson to the far left.

Sheesh.

OF COURSE there is violence from the left. Weather Underground, anyone? What I don't get is why ahem, "some people," cough can't condemn Nazi wannabes on their own without playing "whataboutantifa."
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At no point did I ever say that what the murderer did was OK to the people in that crowd. The topic wasnt should we condemn him. Of course we should, it goes without saying. The fact that we have to say it at all is just sad. But then again I dont hear anyone condemning the left either...typically I only hear them condemning those on the right...
 
kju1 said:
At no point did I ever say that what the murderer did was OK to the people in that crowd. The topic wasnt should we condemn him. Of course we should, it goes without saying. The fact that we have to say it at all is just sad. But then again I dont hear anyone condemning the left either...typically I only hear them condemning those on the right...
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I said what Raymon Carter did wasn't OK in response to your rhetorical question, "so this is ok?" I said that in my original deleted post, and I said that in my modified repost, and I've said it one more time in this reply. My only qualifier is that you have no evidence, by your own admission ("presumably"), that Carter is part of the alt-left, the far left, or whatever you want to call them.
 
kju1 said:
That doesnt make it right.
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Of course not, but it also doesnt make it equal. Righties are desperate to try and act like "both sides are guilty". No, im sorry, calling for mass genocides and then attempting terrorist attacks with weapons of mass destruction is nowhere close to being equal to what this new fangled alt left is interested in. If you want to say there are "wannabe" killer on the alt left, the only people they want to kill are the people who want to kill them. Alt right want to kill everyone not like them.
 
M76 said:
And that's exactly why it shouldn't affect our daily lives at all, because it's not grounded in reality, therefore it has no bearing on reality.
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Here is where I point out the irony that that is nothing but a belief of yours. Well, well, well, how the turntables...
 
These attempts to paint both sides as guilty of the same thing is like saying the USA is just as bad as the Nazi's because we killed a bunch of Nazi's in WWII and welp, murder is murder!
 
nysmo said:
These attempts to paint both sides as guilty of the same thing is like saying the USA is just as bad as the Nazi's because we killed a bunch of Nazi's in WWII and welp, murder is murder!
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There's only one faction of one side I can picture making that argument though - and that's the faction that loves them some Castro and Communism and Marx and Socialism.
 
Sorry guys. If you side with Nazis, you lose my respect.

All of my people fought Nazis, I'll fight them until I die.

None of us are actually from here; We mass murdered indians to steal the US.

I'm ~10% Cherokee; that shit was long ago, and bringing it up now doesn't help fix anything.

I'm from the south; most whites here hate N* because they're afraid they aren't as good/smart/sexy. (my observations and conversations)

I'm a White, aging Engineer living in the south; I believe the lack of education is the biggest driver of the acceptance of this BS.

My parents raised me way better than that.

I now feel better about adblock.
 
DrBorg said:
Sorry guys. If you side with Nazis, you lose my respect.

All of my people fought Nazis, I'll fight them until I die.

None of us are actually from here; We mass murdered indians to steal the US.

I'm ~10% Cherokee; that shit was long ago, and bringing it up now doesn't help fix anything.

I'm from the south; most whites here hate N* because they're afraid they aren't as good/smart/sexy. (my observations and conversations)

I'm a White, aging Engineer living in the south; I believe the lack of education is the biggest driver of the acceptance of this BS.

My parents raised me way better than that.

I now feel better about adblock.
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As a first generation American-born of Cuban immigrants (and legal, at that), how do you think I feel seeing people on the left suck the dick of Castro and communism and such? I feel the exact same way towards them as I do Nazis. Fuck.Them. All. The extreme left and extreme right are of the exact same ilk. Two sides of the same coin. I'll fight both of those extremes until I die.
 
alexyang said:
After having discussed racial issues here before, I am not surprised that so many here can't condemn the Nazi wannabes in Charlottesville, VA without pulling the "whatabout" card.


I have no problems with "white pride" in and of itself. Thing is, I'm not aware of any "white pride" group that doesn't have some connection to Nazi wannabes or other white nationalists/supremacists/identitarians/whatever they want to call themselves. But if you're aware of a "white pride" group that doesn't have a connection to these groups, I'd love to read about them.
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"whatabout" is a valid argument when you talk about participants in the same event. Also I think he lack of a serious gaming console overhaul will keep PC gaming hardware sales depressed. Lackluster console ports don't require new tech.
 
Lenard said:
"whatabout" is a valid argument when you talk about participants in the same event. Also I think he lack of a serious gaming console overhaul will keep PC gaming hardware sales depressed. Lackluster console ports don't require new tech.
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Huh?
 
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