PayPal Hates on Hate and Haters that get Paid for Hate and Hating

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FrgMstr

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PayPal is using recent political events to get into heads of the good folks of the commonwealth.

Regardless of the individual or organization in question, we work to ensure that our services are not used to accept payments or donations for activities that promote hate, violence or racial intolerance. This includes organizations that advocate racist views, such as the KKK, white supremacist groups or Nazi groups. If we become aware of a website or organization using our services that may violate our policies, our highly trained team of experts addresses each case individually and carefully evaluates the website itself, any associated organizations, and their adherence to our policy.

You can donate to Official Antifa at this PayPal address. That is actually a "fake" account, but it has been reported by very few that Antifa has been cut off by PayPal as well, but finding credible sources on that is few and far between, and not mentioned by PayPal in its statement.

I am all good with PayPal's actions on this as long as they treat the alt-Left and the alt-Right with the same set of rules.
 

Ur_Mom

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I 100% agree. If "activities that promote hate, violence or racial intolerance" is the standard, then it should remove AntiFa and other alt-left groups.

Plus, we all know that BitCoin is the way to go for funding hate groups, drug dealers, terrorists, and nerds.

edit - does the alt-left and alt-right use...... alt-coins? :D (I'll see myself out)
 

El Nacho

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I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to get across here. Are you saying that paypal is cutting off everyone who promotes violence or only those on the "right"?
 

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hardocp is becoming more like breitbart everyday. Maybe stop siding with racist, sexists and other disgusting people and stick to tech
There is no such thing at "alt left"
That is just a junk term created by breitbart and infowars.
 

gabhpr

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No I agreed with them, and usually do. You must be referring to how Google and Facebook handle it.
your posts defending literal nazis remain but posts critical of people defending nazis are censored. breitbart of tech
 
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your posts defending literal nazis remain but posts critical of people defending nazis are censored. breitbart of tech

Huh? I'm not defending anyone. Neither is Hard. The funny thing is, preaching about acceptance and equality all the time, when some want to blame all parties involved, you are sure quick to blame one group over others and condemn equal blame!
 

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hardocp is becoming more like breitbart everyday. Maybe stop siding with racist, sexists and other disgusting people and stick to tech
There is no such thing at "alt left"
That is just a junk term created by breitbart and infowars.

Trivia question, which extreme political group had more riots in the past year? Antifa, or the conglomeration of white power guys in VA this weekend? (It was not one group, but several white sumpremacist groups as I understand).

The idea that nobody on the Antifa side of the isle is violent is just plane silly.

Also, which ideaology murdured more people in the last century, NAZI's or Commies?
 

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Maybe add a note saying "political comments allowed on this story" because I never friggin know.
Well, this is obviously a story with a political slant to it. So cut loose. But be advised, that RULE NUMBER ONE is still very much going to be enforced. That is where a lot of people think they are being "censored" many times. It is because they cannot have a civil conversation without insults, not because of their views.
 

FrgMstr

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Just to mention... I do think rule number one also mentioned "No political discussion outside this one forum" in addition to no flaming, etc. That's the confusing part because this post is outside of said political forum. But I do appreciate the permission to discuss.
You would have to read the rules to be aware of those....
 

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I don't even know. Commies still do... but nazi's had that one time... where there was a lot!

Commies murdured more people, but for some reason it is acceptable to waive the hammer and sickle in the US.

Seems just so odd that with all the Hitler/Nazi hate (which is good) that a second ideology that murdured more people is not equally reviled.
 

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Commies murdured more people, but for some reason it is acceptable to waive the hammer and sickle in the US.

Seems just so odd that with all the Hitler/Nazi hate (which is good) that a second ideology that murdured more people is not equally reviled.

Because they murdered indiscriminately? A lot of people get upset when I point that out. Even more get upset when I say we should use the data gathered by Nazi and/or Japanese scientists during the war.
 

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Commies murdured more people, but for some reason it is acceptable to waive the hammer and sickle in the US.

Seems just so odd that with all the Hitler/Nazi hate (which is good) that a second ideology that murdured more people is not equally reviled.
It favors good for nothing leechers, so not really surprising.
 
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Commies murdured more people, but for some reason it is acceptable to waive the hammer and sickle in the US.

Seems just so odd that with all the Hitler/Nazi hate (which is good) that a second ideology that murdured more people is not equally reviled.
It's a lack of knowledge thing... and with liberals removing more and more history... stuff like that will continue to happen with more and more things.
 

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My take is this. Whenever you have uniforms and masks (ISIS, KKK, Riot Police) visuals it usually is their enemies impersonating them.
 

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Commies murdured more people, but for some reason it is acceptable to waive the hammer and sickle in the US.

Seems just so odd that with all the Hitler/Nazi hate (which is good) that a second ideology that murdured more people is not equally reviled.

What befuddles me, is you see the Antifa crowed running around with shirts on the show the likeness of Castro, and "Che" Guevara.. makes perfect sense right... They are quick to tear down history and spout little bits of historical facts, but do not dare use it on them... we need a purge on both sides, just saying.
 

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what is the alt-left exactly? alt-right are self-proclaimed bigots through their symbols and their rhetoric. does that make the alt left the anti-bigots?
alt-left, alt-right, in terms of equivalence, there is none.

Thats not true. The extreme left is just as bigoted as the extreme right. You dont agree with ALL of their viewpoints with no reservations then they label you as a racist/sexist etc. Neither extremes are tolerant of dissent.
 

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PayPal has censored Lauren Southern for example. For reporting "not official" news. They cut off vdare yesterday. That's Steve Sailer and John Derbyshire. These are not violent people. They are not "Nazis". If we can't have discussions then what's left? The country voted against the left, they lost the argument, so as I see it now they are trying to censor any argument. Looks bad man.
 

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does that make the alt left the anti-bigots?

They think so. Achieving their goals through violence and intolerance. I lean left. I do not stand with AntiFa or many other SJW's that will not tolerate any difference in opinion. If I am a piece of shit that deserves to get punched in the face for thinking someone has the right to speak their hateful opinion or carry a concealed weapon or whatever, then that screams bigot. Just to a different group of people.

Alt-left does exist, but they are violent for their own cause. Don't agree with them, they'll get violent and you are wrong. I'm slightly left, but I'm still wrong according to them. I eat meat, I like guns, I believe everyone should have freedom and equality. I'll stand beside a transgender gay woman and a guy that believes the bible is the end game for all people.... Different people, different ideology. But, they aren't anti-bigots. Just anti-right.
 

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what is the alt-left exactly? alt-right are self-proclaimed bigots through their symbols and their rhetoric. does that make the alt left the anti-bigots?
alt-left, alt-right, in terms of equivalence, there is none.

The newly termed alt-left are the anti-establishment, extreme pro-socialistic ideologist. Like the alt-right, the alt-left has no tolerance for you, if you do not think, act, behave, or think like they do. They scream toleration but are not tolerant... Alt-right may not like you for skin color, but the alt-letf dont like you for your political or religious beliefs.
 

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Violence begets violence. All these "alt-left" groups are in direct response to violence perpetrated against them. I know all you nazi sympathizers would prefer to have them roll over and take it. Charlotteville was a protest over a lawn ornament, where the right came with shields and weapons ready to do war, looking for a fight. I guess five dead and dozens injured is not to bad, again over a metal garden gnome. So take a long hard look at yourself and really think about would these groups exist without that external threat while you "unite the right". The right has been screaming for a war, and a war i'm sure we will all get. You really should be careful what you wish for.

Getting that off my chest feels good. Those of us in the middle that see these things just escalating are going to be the real losers when everything is said and done. I would have never considered having a bug out bag or an escape plan. Now I keep a weapon near me as much as possible and a plan for if SHTF.
 

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Violence begets violence. All these "alt-left" groups are in direct response to violence perpetrated against them. I know all you nazi sympathizers would prefer to have them roll over and take it. Charlotteville was a protest over a lawn ornament, where the right came with shields and weapons ready to do war, looking for a fight. I guess five dead and dozens injured is not to bad, again over a metal garden gnome. So take a long hard look at yourself and really think about would these groups exist without that external threat while you "unite the right". The right has been screaming for a war, and a war i'm sure we will all get. You really should be careful what you wish for.

Getting that off my chest feels good. Those of us in the middle that see these things just escalating are going to be the real losers when everything is said and done. I would have never considered having a bug out bag or an escape plan. Now I keep a weapon near me as much as possible and a plan for if SHTF.

You haven't seen the violent alt left in action for the past few years? Years?
 

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hardocp is becoming more like breitbart everyday. Maybe stop siding with racist, sexists and other disgusting people and stick to tech
There is no such thing at "alt left"
That is just a junk term created by breitbart and infowars.

Perhaps the term "racism" shouldn't be so freely thrown around. It has gotten to the point that mentioning there is hatred coming from both sides (antifa, white supremacist) = RACIST. This is utter nonsense.

I do agree, the term 'alt-left', 'alt-right' are utter nonsense. However, ALL of us should be very concerned when virtue signaling corporations and CEOs crack down on one kind of hatred but ignore another. As Americans, we should honor the dream of MLK. This means abhoring, equally, a group that calls for violence on the police, or violence against whitey versus groups that support hatred of other racial groups.
 
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