The new GLOSSY AH-IPS Dell S2415H

phie said:
You say the colors of the Samsung are oversaturated? Not natural? Too "red"? Sorry colors of the Samsung compared to the HP just appear to me more pop, vibrant, alive and shaper.
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That's pretty much the definition of oversaturation.
 
How can colors be "sharper"? I always see this phrase thrown around by people who "compare" displays.
 
Polar_Fox said:
How can colors be "sharper"? I always see this phrase thrown around by people who "compare" displays.
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I mean "defined contours", colors "stands out" better or they "stands out" of the screen... I don't know how to explain this…
 
I'd say the best way to put it is this:

Imagine you have a monitor that is perfectly calibrated to normal sRGB space, correct Gamma, etc.

The monitors of old have less saturated colours, leading to the pictures looking washed out (the picture looks pale).

Over saturated colours would look the exact opposite, there are more of colours than usual.
 
chenw said:
I'd say the best way to put it is this:
Over saturated colours would look the exact opposite, there are more of colours than usual.
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And what is the problem with this if the pics simply give a "better" (more pop, vibrant etc.) effect? I have to play and not to edit pics because I'm a player and not a photograph.

Again: I really wanted to keep the HP for various reasons. And I'm not a fan of Samsung, but of Apple. Samsung and Apple are as cats and dogs. So I just hate Samsung!! But what I see in game is enough to convince me that the Samsung is superior to the HP. Of course this is just my opinion.
 
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phie said:
I will do it, thank you very much!
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Or just use a different gamma mode. Because according to good reviews of the 24" one there is nothing wrong with gamma in the right mode. I would assume this would be the same? Dunno. :)
 
MistaSparkul said:
Maybe this is bad example to compare against but most "audiophiles" will swear that when buying a headphone amp you have to have something that is completely flat and neutral so no "coloring" of your sound that way you are listening to the music the way it was originally recorded. However there are tons of people who actually enjoy tube amps which purposely distort and color the sound signature but they find it to be a more enjoyable experience. When it comes to monitors maybe we can sorta say the same thing in that some people just really enjoy inaccurate, oversaturated colors. Can we really claim that 100% accurate colors will give a more enjoyable experience and is the one and only right way to use a monitor? Perhaps some people will find that more accurate colors just looks duller or less life like. I personally think that color accuracy really matters if you're into photography or video editing but otherwise for gaming and such as long as you find the colors to look great or "pop" and are happy with what you are seeing then that's good enough.
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I think this is a good comparison. Some people want a neutral sound so that they can appreciate it as it was intended to be heard, some want that Sennheiser warm veil, and others want a V-shaped basshead phone. I think the difference it's common for audiophiles to catch the bug and listen to their music through a collection of headphones, but this doens't really happen with displays outside of a few who frequent this and similar forums. I'm glad that phie found a display that he is happy with and has the opportunity to see the difference, which is more than most people can say.
 
phie said:
And what is the problem with this if the pics simply give a "better" (more pop, vibrant etc.) effect? I have to play and not to edit pics because I'm a player and not a photograph.

Again: I really wanted to keep the HP for various reasons. And I'm not a fan of Samsung, but of Apple. Samsung and Apple are as cats and dogs. So I just hate Samsung!! But what I see in game is enough to convince me that the Samsung is superior to the HP. Of course this is just my opinion.
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"Better" is subjective. I personally don't like oversaturation anymore than I like undersaturation. To me it makes things look unnatural and sometimes details can be lost inside the colours, even thought it may increase the contrast between two different colours. I personally like accurate colours so movies don't look too weird.

Another thing about it is that vibrancy can usually be modified, but colour accurate settings are much harder to come by, so I generally prefer getting colour accurate monitors, and then use nVidia CP to increase/decrease vibrancy if needed. An inherently more vibrant monitor might not be as easy to get back down accurate colours.

Then there is the blue light thing to worry about, though I am a lot less paranoid about it than a lot of people in my country, and turning down brightness has a much bigger effect of reducing blue light than using any kind of blue-light filter, which induces a yellow tint that I abhor.

If you feel the vibrancy looks better to you, then don't let anyone stop you from buying it. After all, you will stare at your monitor the longest, so it is the most important that you find what you like.
 
phie said:
Thank you for the answer.

I bought the HP too and I will compare both monitors and report back.

Which settings can you recommends me for the HP 27CW?

Cheers.

EDIT:

I tested both monitor, the Samsung 27E390HL and the HP 27CW.

According to me you cannot compare the Samsung and the Hp: The Samsung is according to me just superior --> https://www.flickr.com/photos/137591141@N07/? (left: HP, right: Samsung)
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Looks like the HP is washed out because of wrong black levels. Are you using HDMI? If so, be sure that the graphicscard outputs right black levels (0-255).
 
Frameless said:
Looks like the HP is washed out because of wrong black levels. Are you using HDMI? If so, be sure that the graphicscard outputs right black levels (0-255).
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Thanks for the reply.

I checked everything and now I corrected the gamma of the Samsung which for me performs just better.
 
This ludicrous. Im building a new PC for my brother and he wants a glossy monitor with the same quality like my Acer H226HQL monitor, but the only glossy monitor avaiable in my country right now is Dell S2216H glossy with lowhaze 3H coating. Looking at the reviews on amazon ive seen people saying its not glossy enough with too much haze...
 
So, I've been looking at the 25xw strongly, and am very close to giving it a shot. Before I make any jump, though, I have a couple of questions.

1) How are the reflections on it? I used to use an iMac in the same environment and am currently using a matte screen. Would the 25xw be sort of in-between those?

2) When perusing around my local Best Buy, I could only find the Hp 25vx.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-25-ips-led-hd-monitor-black/7503012.p?id=1219679624841&skuId=7503012

From looking through NCX's galleries for the 25xw, the 25vx seemed a lot glossier in person and I'm curious if there's a coating difference between the two or not, or any other differences in general.
 
I purchased the HPXW, it's a nice monitor. Hardly any reflection which is good, picture is crisp and clear.

I was convinced by NCX's review. My only complaint is, much like my previous monitor (which was the BenQ EW2740L VA panel) it has a yellow tint and it's annoying.

Here is my question to NCX or anyone who knows their displays. Will calibration clear up that yellow tint? Also, NCX used an X-Rite i1 Display Pro to calibrate it. I'm wondering if something cheaper will get the job done? Like the X-Rite ColorMunki Smile? I'm not a photographer, I'm a gamer and just an average PC user. I don't think I need professional grade colors but I would like to have similar colors that my TV displays.
 
JNolan93 said:
I purchased the HPXW, it's a nice monitor. Hardly any reflection which is good, picture is crisp and clear.

I was convinced by NCX's review. My only complaint is, much like my previous monitor (which was the BenQ EW2740L VA panel) it has a yellow tint and it's annoying.

Here is my question to NCX or anyone who knows their displays. Will calibration clear up that yellow tint? Also, NCX used an X-Rite i1 Display Pro to calibrate it. I'm wondering if something cheaper will get the job done? Like the X-Rite ColorMunki Smile? I'm not a photographer, I'm a gamer and just an average PC user. I don't think I need professional grade colors but I would like to have similar colors that my TV displays.
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Hey, if I might ask, would you happen to know if there are any significant differences between the 25XW and the 25XI? I'm trying to determine if I should try ordering an XW online or purchase an XI locally.
 
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