MSI Launches The GTX 980 Ti GAMING 6G

Despite how it may look or seem, it doesn't move a lot of air through the case. Heat just..sits in there. With the optional clear panel it literally has 1 120mm exhaust.. thats it. I had to slap a G10 on my videocard just to get acceptable temps.
 
Voxata said:
Despite how it may look or seem, it doesn't move a lot of air through the case. Heat just..sits in there. With the optional clear panel it literally has 1 120mm exhaust.. thats it. I had to slap a G10 on my videocard just to get acceptable temps.
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Or you have a shit setup with wires blocking airflow and or running stock fans. I could feel the hot air being pushed out from my upgraded 140mm intake fans while using the Gigabyte for a short time.

And your fractal only has one rear 120mm exhaust fan in a smaller space, so don't give me that fucking bullshit
 
Missed this board. You can fuck all day and all night on it, fuck fuck fuck :))

Got a warning elseware for using "wtf".... fucking fuckers.
 
Personally, the only downside to this card for me is that it dumps all the heat (at least a majority of it) into the case. Also, the card does get hot enough to literally burn you if you touch it. But after gaming is done, everything, including the case, cools down so fast that it's like nothing even happened.

Oh, and I have a Corsair 600T, with the default fan setup. I am still debating on if I should get a 140mm fan for the side pane as an intake.
 
All I know is that my buddy had a HAF XB case, and well lets just say he bought a new one because he had temp problems. And no he isn't a guy who leaves his cords everywhere etc.

He bought a Corsair Air 540.....And yea his SLI heat problems were gone.

On Topic: Kickass, Have you tried that 350w bios yet?
 
I admit, I haven't really dug, but is there any comparison data between the VRM temps of the MSI and ACX 2.0+?

I mean, I hate EVGA generally, but I hate MSI more lol.
 
DASHlT said:
All I know is that my buddy had a HAF XB case, and well lets just say he bought a new one because he had temp problems. And no he isn't a guy who leaves his cords everywhere etc.

He bought a Corsair Air 540.....And yea his SLI heat problems were gone.

On Topic: Kickass, Have you tried that 350w bios yet?
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No, did not try the 350 w tdp bios since it does not include higher voltage. For me to overclock more, I require more volts than tdp. I haven't had time to search OCN further for bios that may work for me and have no experience editing bios myself.
 
Got my card in today. I am still waiting on a vga to pwm cable before I slap the G10 on so that gives me a couple more days to stress test it on air. The cooler is actually pretty quiet but man does this card heat up fast. I am stable at 1466/8000 on air with +0mV and a fairly aggressive fan curve that hits about 85% at the top end. When gaming and my case closed I can barely hear the cooler.

Going to try it on a few demanding games over the next couple days. I think this card is definitely temp limited and I cannot wait to slap the G10 on it and see what it can really do. Huge upgrade from my 7870 lol.
 
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Or you have a shit setup with wires blocking airflow and or running stock fans. I could feel the hot air being pushed out from my upgraded 140mm intake fans while using the Gigabyte for a short time.

And your fractal only has one rear 120mm exhaust fan in a smaller space, so don't give me that fucking bullshit
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I'm using nice corsair 140 push/pulls on my rad for intake on the xb evo. Push/pull 120's on rear. Nice fans too, if I dont use the vented top panel with a strong fan the XB runs hot, if I use air cooled GPU it limits my OC because of it, as shown by my results with R9 280x, GTX970, and 980Ti cards.

My fractal has 2x120mm intake, push/pull 2x 120mm top exhaust on rad and a 120mm rear slim exhaust... this MicroATX tower cooos much better than the full ATX XB. In my xb all wires are out of the way, you're just... stubborn. Hardware runs hot in the xb, video cards especially. I'm considering buying a 540 since this case is such a piece.. but I'd like a fan pointed at my videocard.
 
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Stock voltage. +120 clock, +200 memory (didn't care to test it further). I swapped fan curve to 70% starting at 65 degrees. Temp doesn't go over 71 on Heaven Benchmark. I still have to play Witcher 3 to confirm full stability. Max OC is 1474. My goal is not for max OC, but for max OC on stock voltage and low temp. I think I've achieved that with 1474, 71 degrees, and +120 mhz. Oh yeah, I can't hear the fan over ambient noise. All in all, I'm pretty happy with this purchase.
 
Got mine today... this is lovely. Performance is where I wanted (so far) and silence is really exceptional.

Switched from a 7990 and now Aero doesn't work. Anyone know a fix for that? My googling hasn't turned up anything useful yet...
 
Voxata said:
I'm using nice corsair 140 push/pulls on my rad for intake on the xb evo. Push/pull 120's on rear. Nice fans too, if I dont use the vented top panel with a strong fan the XB runs hot, if I use air cooled GPU it limits my OC because of it, as shown by my results with R9 280x, GTX970, and 980Ti cards.

My fractal has 2x120mm intake, push/pull 2x 120mm top exhaust on rad and a 120mm rear slim exhaust... this MicroATX tower cooos much better than the full ATX XB. In my xb all wires are out of the way, you're just... stubborn. Hardware runs hot in the xb, video cards especially. I'm considering buying a 540 since this case is such a piece.. but I'd like a fan pointed at my videocard.
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I don't have a rear fan, and I have a 290, the horror!
 
I ordered over the weekend a MSI 980TI Gaming 6G but I'm having serious doubts about rejecting the package when it arrives because I think I should wait for Pascal. What do you guys think?

Now I'm running a 7970 dcu2top from asus at 1080p. Haven't owned a nvidia since 7600gt lol :D

btw, my first post here, so hello to all
 
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derv.god said:
I ordered over the weekend a MSI 980TI Gaming 6G but I'm having serious doubts about rejecting the package when it arrives because I think I should wait for Pascal. What do you guys think?

Now I'm running a 7970 dcu2top from asus. Haven't owned a nvidia since 7600gt lol :D

btw, my first post here, so hello to all
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You could be waiting over a year for Pascal. We will likely see another Maxwell refresh before Pascal is ready. A 980 Ti will be a little over twice as fast as the card you have along with twice the vram so I see no point in waiting if you want to crank the settings in demanding games now. You will be able to play everything fine at 2560x1440 and many even at 4k using DSR if you have a 1080 monitor.

I sure hope you have an overclocked modern i5 or i7 and at least 8 GB of system ram to go along with this 980 Ti.
 
My sig doesn't show up. I listed my pc there.
I have 16gb ram and an 2500k at 4.2ghz. Should be enough. I will upgrade to skylake if the performance boost is worth it.
 
derv.god said:
My sig doesn't show up. I listed my pc there.
I have 16gb ram and an 2500k at 4.2ghz. Should be enough. I will upgrade to skylake if the performance boost is worth it.
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Sig shows now and yeah you are good to go for a 980 Ti. And a Skylake cpu upgrade in the fall will hopefully be worth it.
 
How are your temps on that MSI ? I see it's running a little hotter in reviews than my 7970 (few degrees). Another reason to wait for pascal :D
 
So... I received this card today and it's boosting to 1490 out of the box. The weird thing is no matter what profile settings I use or even force in MSI Afterburner, it will still boost to 1490 in every game. Anyone else have this issue? I'm not exactly complaining, but it's a headscratcher.
 
derv.god said:
How are your temps on that MSI ? I see it's running a little hotter in reviews than my 7970 (few degrees). Another reason to wait for pascal :D
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In real world gaming with vsync I am in the mid 60s in most games and low 70s at times in very demanding games. If you want to worry about temps on max overclocked benchmarks then they will hit mid 70s. And that is with fans left on auto.
 
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So... I received this card today and it's boosting to 1490 out of the box. The weird thing is no matter what profile settings I use or even force in MSI Afterburner, it will still boost to 1490 in every game. Anyone else have this issue? I'm not exactly complaining, but it's a headscratcher.
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That makes no sense at all. What drivers and what version of Afterburner are you using?
 
AceCR42 said:
So... I received this card today and it's boosting to 1490 out of the box. The weird thing is no matter what profile settings I use or even force in MSI Afterburner, it will still boost to 1490 in every game. Anyone else have this issue? I'm not exactly complaining, but it's a headscratcher.
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1490 out of the box seems really skeptical. Can you check which bios the card has?
 
I will be running the card on default clocks as OC isn't necessary at all.
Nice temps on auto fan profile.

Still don't know if I should keep the 980 ti or wait for pascal. Maybe I will keep it and sell it before pascal comes out.
 
KickAssCop said:
1490 out of the box seems really skeptical. Can you check which bios the card has?
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misterbobby said:
That makes no sense at all. What drivers and what version of Afterburner are you using?
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Sorry guys, figured it out. Installed the MSI Gaming App and for some reason "OC Mode" was on by default, switched it to the default "Gaming Mode" and now the card boosts to 1354. Tested boost clocks in GTA5 and Witcher 3.

I guess at least I know my card can do near 1500 on stock volts.

And for reference, ASIC quality is 77%, using latest drivers and Afterburner 4.1.1. BIOS is same as this one: http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/173287/msi-gtx980ti-6144-150605.html
 
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Still don't know if I should keep the 980 ti or wait for pascal. Maybe I will keep it and sell it before pascal comes out.
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Pascal still has a lot of unknowns: Will they be able to get the lower nm process working nicely (high chip yields), is HBM2 out in time so we can get more than 4 GB VRAM and how much faster will the initial products be than current 9xx series.

I wouldn't be surprised if they first released a successor to 970/980 with 4GB RAM next year (essentially just a little bit faster but much more power efficient version) and then late 2016 or early 2017 we start seeing the real Pascals that surpass the 980 Ti and Titan X.
 
Yeah, don't expect big Pascal next year. You're looking at 970/980 equivalent Pascal first. It's very difficulty to get a giant chip with a new process. If I had to bet, it's going to be less transistors running at a higher clock speed.
 
Hi folks, another newbie here. Been keeping tabs on this thread, have pretty much read it all.

I purchased/preordered the MSI 980Ti Gaming from BHPhoto on the 26th, said it wasn't shipping until 10th July but it was shipped on July 1. However, being in Australia I only paid for DHL Global and the tracking hasn't updated in 6 days since it said processed in NJ. Still waiting.

Aside from that, looks like this card is turning out to be a good buy, mainly I wanted the colors for my R4E board. I'm currently running a Gigabyte 7970 TOP so an upgrade has long been in order. I decided to go green after I waited for the Fury X and watched the E3 conference in which AMD spilled nothing but lies about it being the worlds fastest and blah blah. F U Lisa Su.... Anyhow this will be my first Nvidia card since the 8400GS I had in a laptop years ago. Seems they really got all the features these days, even my monitor is Nvidia 3D (overlloked that not working with AMD when I bought it XD). When it arrives I'll post what my card can do. I have a Tt level 10 LCS case, but I have the sides off it so hopefully I won't have the heat-dumping problems. And yes it is a shit case as I learned the hard way XD
 
I have a closed case, and temperature is very good. Of course, I have two 200m fans, one in front pushing in, and one on top pulling out. As long as you have good airflow, you can keep your case closed and there would be very little noise.
 
The side panel on mine has a 200 or 220mm fan on it but seems with my Gigabyte card I can drop 6-7C with it off. It seems to pump enough air though and directly on to the card too. I only really took it off when I was testing out high OC's on my 3960X with F@H but since then I decided to leave it off as I felt maybe I was pushing temps too high. I know ppl say 75C is alright but it makes me feel like my rig won't live as long :( Guess that's just paranoid or maybe I'm too used to AMD. Exhaust is right above the card so that's a plus, and it's 140mm too :)
 
Do you have another fan to exhaust the air? You can't push in air without having a means of getting rid of it.
 
Well there is a 240mm Rad up top. Was thinking of going push/pull with it actually seems the fans on it aren't that great. Other than that I have a 120mm 1200RPM turbine-style fan next to the PSU, but you know, heat rises) I just put it there for fun, I would have put Fury X rad there if the card had of been as advertised
 
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Do you have another fan to exhaust the air? You can't push in air without having a means of getting rid of it.
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Yes you can. You can have an excellent air cooling case with zero exhaust fans. The Corsair Air 540 would work without any exhaust fans, as would the FT02/FT05/RV03/etc.

This thread over at OCN has examples going back years.

The important part of an effective positive pressure setup is that the intake fans have a clear flow over the components (no old S shape airflow style or put an intake in the 5.25" bays) and high static pressure.

Water is a different beast entirely, since where you can even place the rad can affect which direction you need the air to go.
 
I'm sure every case is different, but I can tell you that without the 200m fans at top, my CPU fan was a screaming banshee and the temperature was a good 10-15 degrees higher when I run my stress test.

I would not go on theory alone, and try an exhaust fan in your case to test it out, since you admit that it's 6-8 degrees cooler with the side off. That's usually indicative of an airflow issue.

Edit: That thread is pretty old. The 980 Ti's are way, way hotter than those cards they have in the case. Also, the two pictures they have, one is a puny card, and the SLI are dual exhaust cards. That really helps airflow.
 
I don't think I could achieve that with this case. Next build I do will be in a CaseLabs Mercury S8 :)

I could mount the 120mm Turbine fan behind the pump to blow across the CPU area/across the backplate and straight out the exhaust. I bought that fan for the fun of it as it was dead silent @ 1200RPM, 100,000 hour lifetime and very high static pressure vs others (I think 75CFM). Even with the semi modular PSU I still have terrible cable management on account of not a great deal of room behind the MB tray area, I placed the fan down there to blow air up through a bunch of cables just to be sure.
 
derv.god said:
I will be running the card on default clocks as OC isn't necessary at all.
Nice temps on auto fan profile.

Still don't know if I should keep the 980 ti or wait for pascal. Maybe I will keep it and sell it before pascal comes out.
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I reckon you should buy the 980Ti. Like you I had the DCU2T, I sold that for the better OCing Gigabyte 7970 (DCU2T is such an arse to OC without BIOS modding, I bricked one) and like you I was in the market now to upgrade. End up going the 980Ti due to AMD lying blatantly about the Fury X (I was butthurt) and it being a better card, performance wise and OC wise (it's just not the same if I can't OC it).

Consider this, by the time the HBM cards are out and they've ironed out all the flaws with drivers and stuff with the new tech, you'd have got your value out of 980Ti by then and will be ready to upgrade. A bit like what happened with DDR3, you'd have done well to wait a little longer to make a purchase. I hate being a guinea pig, but then sometimes I like to be one of the first. If I were you, I wouldn't wait. You'll still get a quid for your 980Ti in a couple years.
 
Found a Win update that was said to cause issues with Aero, and managed to remove it, but still no Aero.

If anyone has any ideas, they'd be appreciated. It's such a little thing, but it bugs me that I don't have the option. And I wonder if it will affect anything else.
 
jackstar7 said:
Found a Win update that was said to cause issues with Aero, and managed to remove it, but still no Aero.

If anyone has any ideas, they'd be appreciated. It's such a little thing, but it bugs me that I don't have the option. And I wonder if it will affect anything else.
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Open a command prompt and type the following:
Code: 
winsat dwm

Hit Enter and wait for Windows to check if your system is DWM-capable. If it is, Aero will be enabled automatically at the end of the test.
 
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