390X coming soon few weeks

Zarathustra[H];1041664760 said:
Vendors change all the time. Even Corsair changed their AIO manufacturers over time.

AMD might keep Asetek for this gen, or they may have shopped around for a better deal elsewhere. Who knows?

There is usually very little in the way of brand/rleationship loyalty on the B2B side. If you can produce the same or better quality at a lower price, watch yourself be dropped in a hurry.
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Asetek AIO's have the best compatibility though, as far as I'm aware both the NZXT G10 & Corsair HG10 only support Asetek mounts. No other vendor has the same presence in GPU cooling... Who else would they even use? Both EVGA & MSI Hybrids are Asetek, too. At this point I'd say AMD has no choice except Asetek.
 
wizzi01 said:
Yep, that he never really considered going amd in the first place.
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Exactly. You see the same thing here all the time.
Someone asking for a build critique or advice on GPU, you help them out and give them the best options and then they go out and buy what they were going to anyway.

One guy bought a Titan X for his 5-6 year old rig @1080p, after we told him it would be better to go with something cheaper and build a new system.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Asetek AIO's have the best compatibility though, as far as I'm aware both the NZXT G10 & Corsair HG10 only support Asetek mounts. No other vendor has the same presence in GPU cooling... Who else would they even use? Both EVGA & MSI Hybrids are Asetek, too. At this point I'd say AMD has no choice except Asetek.
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Meh, if I can successfully strap an old Cool-IT manufactured corsair AIO to a 7970 using twist ties and rubber bands, I'm sure AMD engineers, able to work in collaboration with the vendor can make it work as well :p

I'm not saying you're wrong, but physical fit and mounting of these things is something it would take a mechanical engineer half a day to design. :p
 
LordEC911 said:
Exactly. You see the same thing here all the time.
Someone asking for a build critique or advice on GPU, you help them out and give them the best options and then they go out and buy what they were going to anyway.

One guy bought a Titan X for his 5-6 year old rig @1080p, after we told him it would be better to go with something cheaper and build a new system.
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Yeah, a lot of people don't actually want advice. They are looking for validation for what they want to do, and if that isn't what they get, they go ahead and do it anyway.
 
Zarathustra[H];1041664774 said:
Meh, if I can successfully strap an old Cool-IT manufactured corsair AIO to a 7970 using twist ties and rubber bands, I'm sure AMD engineers, able to work in collaboration with the vendor can make it work as well :p

I'm not saying you're wrong, but physical fit and mounting of these things is something it would take a mechanical engineer half a day to design. :p
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If it took half a day to design he would not have a job. It has to take about a year and if they are in a hurry at least 6 months. :D
 
Zarathustra[H];1041664774 said:
I'm not saying you're wrong, but physical fit and mounting of these things is something it would take a mechanical engineer half a day to design. :p
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I'm saying since no other manufacturers have shown interest in doing so (up until now) there's no reason to assume they would start. :cool:

Technically AMD could use anyone they want, but there's no evidence that would lead anyone to believe they would use anyone other than Asetek on Fury.
 
FrameBuffer said:
honestly.. not as bad as would expect.. 71C is a significant drop from 290X temp

If calculations are right.. total power (mem + GPU) at load is about 228.
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That's WAY lower than my R9 290 when it's at the same clocks:

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And the R9 390 also performs about 8.5% better from what I've seen - but my R9 290 performs exactly in line with online comparisons... Is it possible the R9 390 IS a refresh but the 390X is just an up-clocked 290X??? :eek:

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I thought I should also mention that I have a Gigabyte Windforce 3 R9 290 and it maxes out around 68C in games, though Furmark pushes it to about 72~73C. Even at 49% fan it is still very quiet.

I can also confirm the power usage figures are spot-on accurate (within 6W, anyway) with my full-time power monitoring provided by my UPS (delta over idle, assuming 11W GPU idle power usage).

EDIT 2:

Did some sleuthing, and it seems even my power draw is right on the money - being only about 2 watts off most reviews, such as:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/4

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Zarathustra[H];1041664761 said:
That is kind of mind boggingly retarded.

Wait two more days and you'll know for sure. Two days go by in the blink of an eye...
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Going to lol when we only learn what we already know about Fury and still have zero indication of how it performs. Then will it be dumb to wait? People been waiting for a "few weeks" , as the thread title indicates.
 
TDSlam720 said:
Going to lol when we only learn what we already know about Fury and still have zero indication of how it performs. Then will it be dumb to wait? People been waiting for a "few weeks" , as the thread title indicates.
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If in two days, there is nothing new, then I can see getting disillusioned, but now is a bit premature.

You say that people have been waiting for "soon, few weeks" since January, well that's kind of Silly.

AMD never made any "soon, few weeks" announcements. All that ever was was pure online speculation and rumor mill. If people were waiting based on that, then that's their own damned fault, and giving up 2 days before we are finally due to receive ANY official information is really silly.
 
TDSlam720 said:
Going to lol when we only learn what we already know about Fury and still have zero indication of how it performs. Then will it be dumb to wait? People been waiting for a "few weeks" , as the thread title indicates.
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I don't know why people expect to see reviews/preformance numbers on Tuesday. It's pretty clear it's going to be a product launch like Hawaii was (with few details and lots of marketing fluff), with reviews to follow in a few weeks. There have been no indication that review sites have cards yet, or that any have been shipped to stores for an actual launch.
 
Zarathustra[H];1041664890 said:
If in two days, there is nothing new, then I can see getting disillusioned, but now is a bit premature.

You say that people have been waiting for "soon, few weeks" since January, well that's kind of Silly.

AMD never made any "soon, few weeks" announcements. All that ever was was pure online speculation and rumor mill. If people were waiting based on that, then that's their own damned fault, and giving up 2 days before we are finally due to receive ANY official information is really silly.
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Thats the way forums go its like chinese whispers, rumours become facts and then if the end product doesn't match up to the rumours then its a crying match about "amd\nvidia said this or that" when in reality it was a rumour that was circulating long enough for people to take it as fact.

That being said some pics have been doing the rounds showing a pic of a box with a fury card inside so presumably some reviewers have them, also the pics that pc per posted would indicate that samples are doing the rounds to some sites.
 
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Forceman said:
I don't know why people expect to see reviews/preformance numbers on Tuesday. It's pretty clear it's going to be a product launch like Hawaii was (with few details and lots of marketing fluff), with reviews to follow in a few weeks. There have been no indication that review sites have cards yet, or that any have been shipped to stores for an actual launch.
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Some sites do have the 300 series cards but I haven't heard an actual confirmation that anyone has Fury in hand. Aside from that one dude in China who got a sample from Colorfire.
 
Nope it's from some Chinese dude

Was supposed to post some benchmarks by 8pm tonight their time (so 8am for us) but seems he completely flaked
 
n=1 said:
Nope it's from some Chinese dude

Was supposed to post some benchmarks by 8pm tonight their time (so 8am for us) but seems he completely flaked
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Ah ffs, was hoping that was a card in some reviewers hands.:( Unless reviewers are being guarded at gunpoint to prevent leaks it doesn't seem like we'll see any new info or reviews come tuesday...well maybe info but not reviews i don't think.
 
Forceman said:
I don't know why people expect to see reviews/preformance numbers on Tuesday. It's pretty clear it's going to be a product launch like Hawaii was (with few details and lots of marketing fluff), with reviews to follow in a few weeks. There have been no indication that review sites have cards yet, or that any have been shipped to stores for an actual launch.
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You do realize all hell will break loose when this happens, right? It will be glorious to sit back and watch, but man AMD is dumb if they do this.

I have a feeling cards wont even be out till W10 deployment, which will be even more lol.
 
TDSlam720 said:
You do realize all hell will break loose when this happens, right? It will be glorious to sit back and watch, but man AMD is dumb if they do this.

I have a feeling cards wont even be out till W10 deployment, which will be even more lol.
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Well we already had a leaked Fire Strike bench which got taken down, and then with leaked pics of the AIO version cropping up everywhere, I'd say even reviews and hard launch should come quite a bit before Win10 launch on July 29.
 
n=1 said:
Well we already had a leaked Fire Strike bench which got taken down, and then with leaked pics of the AIO version cropping up everywhere, I'd say even reviews and hard launch should come quite a bit before Win10 launch on July 29.
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Firestrike for Fury?
 
TDSlam720 said:
Firestrike for Fury?
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From VideoCardz

I can personally attest it's NOT a photoshop, as the bench was most definitely in Futuremark's database before it got deleted or taken down. Oh and if it matters that bench was run on Win 8.1, so the conditions are as favorable as possible.
 
heflys20 said:
Thought you guys were talking about the 300 cards. Disregard my last post. I expect fury to arrive before W10 though.
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Why in gods name would anyone waste precious calories using their fingers to press down on the keys of their keyboard to discuss the 300 series??
 
Can anyone compare that score to something else?
It seems really low. But it's worthless without proper drivers.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Can anyone compare that score to something else?
It seems really low. But it's worthless without proper drivers.
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http://www.legitreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-6gb-video-card-review_165406/10

stock 980Ti graphics score - 7779

OCed 980Ti (1311/2003) graphics score - 9201

versus 7932 stock Fiji graphics score which could be full or cut down version

290x graphics score - 5110

5110 * 1.455 (from 4096 / 2816) = 7435

so 344 score difference due to HBM?
 
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Zarathustra[H];1041665153 said:
Considering it says Generic VGA I'm guessing the drivers it is running on are not finished.

If this indeed is a Fiji board, I'd imagine that real drivers would only improve things.
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4GB memory and 500MHz mem clock definitely point in the right direction.
 
TDSlam720 said:
Why in gods name would anyone waste precious calories using their fingers to press down on the keys of their keyboard to discuss the 300 series??
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That bad huh? LOL.

Technically speaking, this topic is about the 390x before Fury was unveiled, and (ahem) 390x appeared to be a disappointment. LOL.
 
I don't think a majority of the people would need to consider their calories "precious" unless you are from North Korea or South Africa.
 
Forceman said:
I don't know why people expect to see reviews/preformance numbers on Tuesday. It's pretty clear it's going to be a product launch like Hawaii was (with few details and lots of marketing fluff), with reviews to follow in a few weeks. There have been no indication that review sites have cards yet, or that any have been shipped to stores for an actual launch.
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If the performance is there and your new gadget is better/faster than your competitor's, you'd think you'd want to get the info out there ASAP, shout it from the rooftops, or at least every tech blog.

Delay tactics and review stalling makes everyone nervous, and creates the perception that you're sitting in the factory at midnight maxing out the overclock just to be able to keep up. That they literally told every AMD employee "get down to the factory tonight, bring your screwdrivers, we need to open up all the boxes again and tweak the Fury's to the breaking point, and I don't care if you smell smoke just box em up we need everyone on this TONIGHT."
 
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DPI said:
That they literally told every AMD employee "get down to the factory tonight, bring your screwdrivers, we need to open up all the boxes again and tweak the Fury's to the breaking point, and I don't care if you smell smoke just box em up we need everyone on this TONIGHT."
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LOL
 
AMD actually changed R9 290 performance via a driver update when the card was already with reviewers (you can look back and see this mentioned in many reviews). They uncapped the fan speed allowing the R9 290 to have higher effective clock speeds.

Depending on how the card is designed and how the autoclocking system works in theory they could adjust performance in terms of effective clockspeeds.
 
Trimlock said:
I don't think a majority of the people would need to consider their calories "precious" unless you are from North Korea or South Africa.
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North Korea I get. Well published nutritional problems in that country.

South Africa? It's one of the largest and most modern economies in Africa.

Thenpiunt may have been made better by using Sudan or Ethiopia or something like that.
 
I would expect to see NDA lifted or reviews to show up the 18th for the 390's. No idea on furries.
 
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