Samsung Galaxy S6

I do like the leaked designs of the S6, the rounded smooth metal corners and shape look really nice :cool: Yes it's like my 6 Plus in design, but that's fine with me, the iPhone 6 is great in the hand, and rounded smooth handsets are just easier and more comfortable to hold. Even the HTC One M8 with it's rounded design felt great in the hand.

Where as the Note 4 feels too sharp and rectangular IMO and not good to me. I can only imagine a Note 5 based on these leaked S6 design style, imagine a 5.7" device, with those rounded soft corners and shape :D And being thin, but still like a 3,300mAh battery. I can dream of a Note 5 like that, and with a revamped Touchwiz, could be a beast.

But I have to pass on this S6, as battery life will not be up to my standards. I am sure it will be fine for most people. But for me a hardcore user, that requires at least 6h On Screen time per day, the S6 I am sure will not cut it. My old OnePlus One was getting me 7h On Screen time per day, and I still killed the battery by bedtime almost everyday. My JB 6 Plus is even better on battery life than my OPO. So anything less than those two phones is a major downgrade in battery I can't accept.
 
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Zorachus said:
I do like the leaked designs of the S6, the rounded smooth metal corners and shape look really nice :cool: Yes it's like my 6 Plus in design, but that's fine with me, the iPhone 6 is great in the hand, and rounded smooth handsets are just easier and more comfortable to hold. Even the HTC One M8 with it's rounded design felt great in the hand.

Where as the Note 4 feels too sharp and rectangular IMO and not good to me. I can only imagine a Note 5 based on these leaked S6 design style, imagine a 5.7" device, with those rounded soft corners and shape :D And being thin, but still like a 3,300mAh battery. I can dream of a Note 5 like that, and with a revamped Touchwiz, could be a beast.

But I have to pass on this S6, as battery life will not be up to my standards. I am sure it will be fine for most people. But for me a hardcore user, that requires at least 6h On Screen time per day, the S6 I am sure will not cut it. My old OnePlus One was getting me 7h On Screen time per day, and I still killed the battery by bedtime almost everyday. My JB 6 Plus is even better on battery life than my OPO. So anything less than those two phones is a major downgrade in battery I can't accept.
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I forgot Zorachus, what do you do again for a living? I seem to recall you do some kind of field work, where you're obviously on your phone all day. Are you never around a charger? Just curious more than anything.

I appreciate good battery life like the next guy but as long as a phone has decent battery life, battery life is no longer the #1 factor for me in considering a phone because the reality is I'm ALWAYS by a charger. I work at a desk all day (charger is there). There a charger in my car. And I also have a portable charging brick in case of emergencies. Point is, I can't remember the last time I was screwed because my phone ran out of juice.

I understand my situation is different from yours but even if you're driving from location to location doing whatever the hell you do, you can't throw your phone on a charge for 10-15 minutes? I only ask because I think it's cool how these newer phones have these rapid charging features where you can get 50% charge in like half a hour. Or is it a pride thing with you? Is it humiliating to have to plug your phone in mid-day just to top it off? Really curious.
 
TDSlam720 said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8314/galaxy-s5-ltea-battery-life-performance

Check that link, battery life wasn't worse after the QHD boost, and actually got better than the 1080 S5 in many cases. QHD wont be an issue with the beefier GPU. I expect Z3 like battery life.


I dont know if TW will be as smooth as Nexus, but should be as snappy as most other phones with the hardware backing it up.

Fixed battery and root is something that applies to maybe 5000-20000 nerds worldwide. The rest of Samsungs market could careless.
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Did you read the conclusion there?

While there's been a lot of discussion over the impact of 1440p displays on battery life and performance, it seems that Samsung has managed to make the move to 1440p without losing performance or battery life for the most part. Of course, there's always the question of how much better battery life could be by utilizing the same technologies for a 1080p panel.
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That comparison would mean a lot more if the GS5 and LTE-A GS5 were on the same SoC, but they're not and the Snapdragon 805 in the LTE-A variant is made for QHD+ resolution in mind. I really hope they have made some power efficiency improvements on their QHD displays since that LTE-A variant and the Note 4 has released too if they expect a phone with a considerably smaller battery now to have the same or better battery life than their predecessors. Which is why I'm not putting much stock into these rumors for now, as they seem like pretty bad decisions on Samsung's part and it doesn't make sense at all for them to sacrifice battery life and practical features just for superfluous aesthetics.

Also, did you know that 67% of statistics are made up on the spot? :p
 
I was saying the same thing about the screen. I really was aiming for the day phones hit 1080p, they did then they all went full retard! Oh well, it's still advancing technology and all.

But, for the most part the GPU isn't actually rendering at that resolution, it would be Damn near impossible for these weak little GPU's. All phones are upscaling from 320x240 which is why doubling the resolution didn't require double the gpu power.
 
Trimlock said:
I was saying the same thing about the screen. I really was aiming for the day phones hit 1080p, they did then they all went full retard! Oh well, it's still advancing technology and all.

But, for the most part the GPU isn't actually rendering at that resolution, it would be Damn near impossible for these weak little GPU's. All phones are upscaling from 320x240 which is why doubling the resolution didn't require double the gpu power.
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I could care less about QHD phones, but I am jazzed that they keep pursuing more and more pixel dense displays because it is doing some really amazing things for future VR devices like the Oculus Rift.
 
Erasmus354 said:
I could care less about QHD phones, but I am jazzed that they keep pursuing more and more pixel dense displays because it is doing some really amazing things for future VR devices like the Oculus Rift.
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Couldn't* care less. ;)

But yeah, that's about the only practical use of QHD in a phone. But even then, I think I'd rather the phone be 1080p and the VR device have its own higher res display built in and just have the phone power that if need be. Yes, that would make the VR device a bit more expensive, but worth the trade off, IMO.
 
T4rd said:
Couldn't* care less. ;)

But yeah, that's about the only practical use of QHD in a phone. But even then, I think I'd rather the phone be 1080p and the VR device have its own higher res display built in and just have the phone power that if need be. Yes, that would make the VR device a bit more expensive, but worth the trade off, IMO.
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Eh, Gear VR is actually a huge reason why I plan on getting the S6, 200 bucks for entry level VR fun/experience sounds great.
 
TDSlam720 said:
Eh, Gear VR is actually a huge reason why I plan on getting the S6, 200 bucks for entry level VR fun/experience sounds great.
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Yeah, it's quite intriguing. I was considering getting the Note 4 for it. But I think the only thing I'd like it for is watching movies or something and for that it wouldn't be much better than Google Cardboard or something similar. Definitely don't think it's worth $200 for something I know I'll play with a few times, demo to some friends, and probably never use again.
 
People keep giving excuses to Samsung for going thinner and smaller battery, saying the new hardware will be more efficient and give as good if not better battery life than the S5. But IMO that's not good enough. Samsung shouid strive for best #1 battery life, not just match last years.

How bout this. Still keep last years bigger battery size and still have this new better efficient hardware. And don't worry about stupid thinness in a smartphone, and give us substantially better battery life than the S5.

Samsung you don't need to go thinner and smaller battery. The S5 thickness is just fine. Give us more battery life. Who wouldn't mind a thicker phone, but longer battery life Vs. thinner phone and less battery life ?

To me the 6 Plus is what all other phones need to strive for as far as battery life. Any less is useless and not good for hardcore users who hammer thier phone all day long out in the field.
 
On another forum, a poster had this to say about the S6 battery life;


skratch77: The gs6 will over all get anywhere from 35%-50% combined efficiency over the gs5.
Samsung has stated 35% for the soc and 14% on the 2k display on the gs5 lte-a version with the same acreen.
This 2600mah battery will act like a 4000mah battery in a gs5 and I don't want a thicker heavier phone as I use my gs5 one handed.


I can't believe the S6 will get close to 50% better battery life compared to the S5. I have never seen a next gen phone make that big of a jump in battery life, one year later. But we'll see, hope this guy is right, but I highly doubt it.
 
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Another clue that the Galaxy S6 will feature a 2,600-mAh battery
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-battery-capacity-588376/

Why would Samsung reduce the battery size of the Galaxy S6? The answer may lie in the phone’s sealed construction and 6.9-millimeter profile. These design constraints probably forced Samsung to shave off the size, and implicitly the capacity, of the battery inside the S6.

In theory, the 14nm Exynos processor expected to power the Galaxy S6 should consume less power than previous generations, partially offsetting the decreased battery capacity. Then again, the reverse applies for the Quad HD screen, because higher resolutions translate into higher consumption. So we’ll have to evaluate the entire package before we can issue a judgment on the Galaxy S6’s battery life. And that will only be possible after March 1, when Samsung will lift the veil of the S6 and S6 Edge at its MWC event.
 
I read an article years ago saying embedded batteries requires less parts than removable batteries, making phones with embedded batteries more reliable and efficient.

Second, the HTC has been using a lesser battery and lasting longer than Samsung's larger battery TouchWiz-bola bullshit for a while. So the precedence has been set. Samsung could definitely do with a lesser battery than the GS5 and still beat the GS5... Unfortunately, Samsung isn't competing with the GS5, but rather Apple and, of course, HTC, who have records of pushing the battery life to last longer. So I'm still betting on HTC to best the battery life of the GS6.

Third, 35% more efficient SoC + a 14% more efficient display from the GS5 LTE-A with 2800mAh battery does not make a 4000mAh-esque battery life from 2600mAh... Common sense. I want to see him break down these numbers and prove it. Sorry, the engineer in me will not believe this until I see that how he could come up with a capacity 54% higher.
 
Zorachus said:
Samsung shouid strive for best #1 battery life, not just match last years.

Any less is useless......
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And this is why you do not run Samsung. You are aware that you represent like .001% of the general population right? I don't hear a lot of phone buyers running around screaming "If a phone doesn't have at least 7 hours of on-screen time it's useless to me!!!" I've yet to hear that rallying cry pick up much steam.

Fact is, any phone with good stand-by time and around 5 hours on screen time will get 99% of the population through a full day of usage. People like you are the outlier. People demand that their phone last all day. If Samsung can deliver on that front they (and consumers) will be happy. Will everyone be happy? Of course not, but you can't please everyone.

I would however like to see a Samsung by Zorachus phone. That fucker would be 4 inches thick, carry a 50,000 Mah battery and last for 2 weeks on a charge. :D Oh and it would have a 5.5' screen because we all know that's the perfect screen size.
 
Johnny78 said:
I would however like to see a Samsung by Zorachus phone. That fucker would be 4 inches thick, carry a 50,000 Mah battery and last for 2 weeks on a charge. :D
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LOL that made me belt out laughing :p

No, I just want the Alien tech that the U.S. Government has had for decades in my smartphone. Can be a liquid metal metal, diamond screen, and just 3mm thin, with a battery that could last months.
 
Yeah, it's really a shame that with all this rapid evolutionary progress with screen technology and so many other hardware features, it seems like our battery technology is evolving the slowest. I'm sure one day our kids will look at us and say, "Can you believe that our parents had to charge their phones EVERY SINGLE NIGHT???!!!"
 
Zorachus said:
LOL that made me belt out laughing :p

No, I just want the Alien tech that the U.S. Government has had for decades in my smartphone. Can be a liquid metal metal, diamond screen, and just 3mm thin, with a battery that could last months.
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But what size would that diamond screen be?! Inquiring minds need to know man!
 
6 years ago, I would have expected us to be using something like carbon nanotubes for battery by now... It's like the last advancement I've seen in batteries currently in production are from LG Chem lithium-ion batteries with SiO+ (silicon monoxide), which allows like 6% more capacity in the same amount of space (?). I don't really know what's holding up the carbon nanotubes front, other than people just depending on more efficient SoC and power management.

Elon Musk, I demand you create a battery for phones...
 
I'm crying in the corner right now hoping the edge still comes with the 20MP sensor. This is borderline deal breaking to me. Go ahead and have your laugh if true, you earned it xD
 
TDSlam720 said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8314/galaxy-s5-ltea-battery-life-performance

Check that link, battery life wasn't worse after the QHD boost, and actually got better than the 1080 S5 in many cases. QHD wont be an issue with the beefier GPU. I expect Z3 like battery life.


I dont know if TW will be as smooth as Nexus, but should be as snappy as most other phones with the hardware backing it up.

Fixed battery and root is something that applies to maybe 5000-20000 nerds worldwide. The rest of Samsungs market could careless.
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With regards to the screen. Isn't it the backlight that is the battery drainer and not the panel? So similar sized but higher resolution shouldn't matter. That matches up with what you said.

CHANG3D said:
6 years ago, I would have expected us to be using something like carbon nanotubes for battery by now... It's like the last advancement I've seen in batteries currently in production are from LG Chem lithium-ion batteries with SiO+ (silicon monoxide), which allows like 6% more capacity in the same amount of space (?). I don't really know what's holding up the carbon nanotubes front, other than people just depending on more efficient SoC and power management.

Elon Musk, I demand you create a battery for phones...
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He doesn't even have that for his car yet. But I assume advancements in battery tech are being worked on. Yes, devices can get smaller and smaller, but there's a fortune to be made by providing a better portable power source.
 
Zorachus said:
- I hope the fingerprint thumb button works like the iPhone 6 ? Just hold it on the button for a second and it works. Where as the Note 4 and S5 have this silly slide down the screen and then the button, which is so stupid.
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I think the fingerprint sensor was done that way to get around Apple's patent of obvious things.
 
Spidey329 said:
With regards to the screen. Isn't it the backlight that is the battery drainer and not the panel? So similar sized but higher resolution shouldn't matter. That matches up with what you said.
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There is no "backlight" for amoled. Each pixel is a tiny led.
 
there you go no removal back ( from t-mobile email )
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Looks like the marketing for the edge is going full swing now with advertising on AT&T and Sprint too. And release date is pointing to April.
 
Skripka said:
They really need to make their own Qi charger?
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Not sure what the issue is here. Are you somehow shocked that a manufacturer would issue its own officially branded accessories? Haven't maufacturers been doing this since the dawn of time? Who cares? It's QI so if you don't want to pay for their overpriced accessory you can buy one for a few bucks on amazon.
 
Johnny78 said:
Not sure what the issue is here. Are you somehow shocked that a manufacturer would issue its own officially branded accessories? Haven't maufacturers been doing this since the dawn of time? Who cares? It's QI so if you don't want to pay for their overpriced accessory you can buy one for a few bucks on amazon.
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He's a rabid Samsung hater, take it with a grain of salt.
 
dr/owned said:
Samsung already makes their own wireless chargers since the S4 I think

Wireless charging integrated with the S6 will be nice for buying aftermarket cases. With the charging back on the S5, I can't use aftermarket cases because it adds a MM of thickness to the phone and makes everything not fit.
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Johnny78 said:
Not sure what the issue is here. Are you somehow shocked that a manufacturer would issue its own officially branded accessories? Haven't maufacturers been doing this since the dawn of time? Who cares? It's QI so if you don't want to pay for their overpriced accessory you can buy one for a few bucks on amazon.
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I have a feeling, like all Samsung accessories, it'll be bizzarro proprietary and only work with Samsung phones and the phones will only work with it too. That is why I groan.

Oh yea, and their mobiles department is bleeding money.

Trimlock said:
He's a rabid Samsung hater, take it with a grain of salt.
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Only because Samsung continuously pulls stupid shit.
 
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