new LG Display 31" 4K(4096x2160) IPS panel

Good find. Look's like there will be competition for the 31.5" Sharp IGZO soon. Hopefully drive prices down.
 
I would lower the expectations quite a bit kurtd. these brands are dominated by market idiots:
- multiple inputs options that add input lag
- wide gamut for guaranteed color distortion
-cheap eletronics to make any overclocking impossible
 
Interesting that it has a 4096x2160 (DCI 4K) resolution rather than a 3840x2160 (4K UHD) resolution.

Nice to see that it is a 10-bit monitor. I wonder if it is true 10-bit or 8-bit + FRC. According to TFTcentral, LG Display has been known to build both types.
 
Interested for sure won't come cheap though
And it uses LVDS instead of VX1
 
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Panelook lists it for standard monitors.. the sharp and all previous panels were listed as panels for medical an specialty applications.
So it might actually turn out to be relatively affordable,
 
geok1ng said:
I would lower the expectations quite a bit kurtd. these brands are dominated by market idiots:
- multiple inputs options that add input lag
- wide gamut for guaranteed color distortion
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Uh, the market for these monitors is high-end professional work typically, for which wide gamut is a major feature and multiple inputs are important. Input lag, however, is not relevant for desktop work.
 
An actual 4K panel, not one of those UHD panels people keep calling 4k. Excellent!
 
geok1ng said:
I would lower the expectations quite a bit kurtd. these brands are dominated by market idiots:
- multiple inputs options that add input lag
- wide gamut for guaranteed color distortion
-cheap eletronics to make any overclocking impossible
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The gamut probably isn't nearly wide enough. Have you looked at the color space defined in the UHD spec. It's HUGE. About 50% bigger than Adobe RGB and over 2x the size of sRGB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._2020
 
TroyX said:
Surface: "Antiglare, Hard coating"

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Eh....If you ever have one of these or a similar size-class panel on your desk...you'll want it. As any overhead room lighting will glare off the top have of the panel badly. Nature of the beast of this size class.
 
Nice to see someone challenging Sharp; will keep my eye on this. Maybe HP will make one with no input lag like my ZR30w?
 
NLPsajeeth said:
Interesting that it has a 4096x2160 (DCI 4K) resolution rather than a 3840x2160 (4K UHD) resolution.

Nice to see that it is a 10-bit monitor. I wonder if it is true 10-bit or 8-bit + FRC. According to TFTcentral, LG Display has been known to build both types.
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There is no mention about A-FRC(advanced Frame rate control) in datasheet as on 24", 27" GB-r LED IPS panels
24" http://www.hy-line.de/fileadmin/hy-line/computer/csv/datasheets/LM240WU9-SLA1_ CAS_v0.4.pdf
27" http://www.hy-line.de/fileadmin/hy-...s/LM270WQ3_SLA1_General_CAS_Ver1 0_121109.pdf
 
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Skripka said:
Eh....If you ever have one of these or a similar size-class panel on your desk...you'll want it. As any overhead room lighting will glare off the top have of the panel badly. Nature of the beast of this size class.
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Or you could just turn the light(s) off, paint the rear wall black and close the curtains. No more glare so I can enjoy glossy. Matte is a downgrade.
 
Panmaster said:
Or you could just turn the light(s) off, paint the rear wall black and close the curtains. No more glare so I can enjoy glossy. Matte is a downgrade.
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Uh huh...because that is totally a reasonable option in a workplace. Most machines do not spend the majority of their lives as gaming rigs, especially those who can layout the cash for 30"+ size class 1600p or 4K.

Glass is nice...but impractical for any kind of real work in this size panel.
 
Skripka said:
Uh huh...because that is totally a reasonable option in a workplace. Most machines do not spend the majority of their lives as gaming rigs, especially those who can layout the cash for 30"+ size class 1600p or 4K.

Glass is nice...but impractical for any kind of real work in this size panel.
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We have a pair of U3011's on each desk for 'real work'. A pair of U2407's grace the other side of the desk. You might be surprised how cheap these monitors look when real work needs to get done :).
 
Sancus said:
Uh, the market for these monitors is high-end professional work typically, for which wide gamut is a major feature and multiple inputs are important. Input lag, however, is not relevant for desktop work.
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That would only lower our expectations even more.
 
geok1ng said:
That would only lower our expectations even more.
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We should have higher expectations, I think, because it's not IGZO- IGZO is a new technology that likely is expensive to produce with low yields, which drives up it's price substantially, even if the quality isn't there- and based on initial reviews, it isn't.

A traditional IPS panel is instead well within LG's purview, it's what they do. They can of course charge whatever people will pay for these panels, but unlike IGZO, we can expect some real competition to put pressure on the price over time.
 
Well, the other thing with the Sharp panels is they have a rather complex(and custom-built, afaik,. which probably required development time&cost) electronics setup in them to deal with MST and combining the two input streams, having two timing controllers, etc.

That also probably contributes somewhat to the cost. So if somebody makes a MST panel with this, it likely won't be cheap. HDMI 2.0 versions though might be a little more reasonable, however, I'm still pretty skeptical that they'll be bringing the price of desktop monitor sized 4k panels below $1000 in the next year. Maybe in 2015, if we're really really lucky. It's reasonable to guess there will be a premium above, say, U3014 price, for at least a year or two.
 
Sancus said:
Well, the other thing with the Sharp panels is they have a rather complex(and custom-built, afaik,. which probably required development time&cost) electronics setup in them to deal with MST and splitting the input stream, having two timing controllers, etc.

That also probably contributes somewhat to the cost. So if somebody makes a MST panel with this, it likely won't be cheap. HDMI 2.0 versions though might be a little more reasonable, however, I'm still pretty skeptical that they'll be bringing the price of desktop monitor sized 4k panels below $1000 in the next year. Maybe in 2015, if we're really really lucky.
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Remember the 30" Seiki that was around $700? That's what a 30" 4k panel costs to bring to market. The MST hubs are just ASICs- there's literally no reason for them to be expensive or add to the cost of the monitors except for scarcity, and that goes away quickly with demand and competition.

I think that $1000 for a desktop-sized 4k monitor (25"-40") is more than reasonable within the next year, and I want one.
 
The market for 30 inch desktop monitors is considerably smaller than the TV market though. I can't imagine that 2560x1600 panels are exactly expensive and yet those monitors remain around the $1000 price point except for some really poor quality ones that aren't much cheaper. There's no reason to believe 4k monitors which will require brand new technology are going to be Seiki TV priced overnight. And besides that let's not forget that the Seiki 39 inch pretty much sucks and has like 60ms of input lag :p
 
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That's such a good thread, I'll resurrect it.
So what's the best 30in display of 2015? I am OK with 2560x1600, and cool with 4K but I think I still prefer 16x10 aspect for office and photographic work. Two full pages of PDF look better on 16x10. Resolution can be anything as long as it's equal or higher than 2560x1600.

My criteria for selection are:
(a) non-FRC, true 10-bit IPS panel. I found out that color dithering (FRC) irritates my retini more that PWM. Another thing is I do not want PWM either.
(b) GB-r LED backlight without PWM. I have had hp ZR30w for 2.5 years and had to sell it, my eyes were so irritated I could not stand it (FRC for wide gamut+PWM).

Any candidates match this criteria?
I am still looking for a big monitor under $2000, matching all my selection criteria.
I can see the market is moving towards UHD 16x9 but they are still doing the same FRC+PWM tricks that my eyes hate.
 
cubeover said:
That's such a good thread, I'll resurrect it.
So what's the best 30in display of 2015? I am OK with 2560x1600, and cool with 4K but I think I still prefer 16x10 aspect for office and photographic work. Two full pages of PDF look better on 16x10. Resolution can be anything as long as it's equal or higher than 2560x1600.

My criteria for selection are:
(a) non-FRC, true 10-bit IPS panel. I found out that color dithering (FRC) irritates my retini more that PWM. Another thing is I do not want PWM either.
(b) GB-r LED backlight without PWM. I have had hp ZR30w for 2.5 years and had to sell it, my eyes were so irritated I could not stand it (FRC for wide gamut+PWM).

Any candidates match this criteria?
I am still looking for a big monitor under $2000, matching all my selection criteria.
I can see the market is moving towards UHD 16x9 but they are still doing the same FRC+PWM tricks that my eyes hate.
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you could receive more answers by starting another thread, but i would statrt searching for something like these:

http://www.necdisplay.com/p/pa322uhd-bk-sv

This one was suggested by tne NEC representative on another thread. i am not so sure how it compares with the IGZO 32" 4k competition, but is packed to the gills with color tweaking capabilities and DOES 120HZ 1080P :D
 
I just received one. Will let you know what I think, when I finish building my computer.
 
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