Xbox One Demos Running On NVIDIA Hardware?

Wow. The amount of 'roid rage in this thread is extreme. :) Someone is wrong?! WTF, YOUFUCKINGRETARDEDSHITHEAD! I'LL FUCKING SLIT YOUR DAMN THROAT!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :) Who cares. The biggest issue is that Microsoft deceived the people by saying it was actual hardware and it wasn't. Microsoft has been very shifty this whole console generation. Whoop dee doo.

I could care less. I really don't trust too much of what Microsoft says with the new Xbox. They've deceived, screwed the consumer, and is generally being controlling dicks with it. I've gone from an Xbox fanboy to a Playstation guy because of the Xbox One announcements. I would have defended the new console to the death, but damn..... you can't go that far.

If it runs of NVIDIA hardware better for one reason or another (maybe with Win7 it has better drivers?), fine. But, don't lie about it.
 
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I could tell it was Nvidia powered by the wood screws.
 
HERE IS YOUR ANSWER

Michael Wilford, Studio Director of Twisted Pixel Games, said the hardware running his game at the show was the decision of his company, not Microsoft. He also told Jonathan Blow to blow it out his ass for criticizing the hardware his team is using to demo the game. :D

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So, what we have here is simply a matter of a developer that chose to run his game on hardware / software of his choice. Everyone can quit freaking out now. Wow. :eek:
 
daglesj said:
I think MS has analysed the stats it gets back from the 360 user group and it's found that games and gamers are not its bread and butter anymore.

I bet they make far more from the subscription services and media side than they do the gaming nowadays and if thats not the case then it's going to be in just a few years time.

Hence why the Xbone is so media heavy. The money isnt in games going forward.

MS isnt looking to EA and the like for its revenue streams going forward.

For me a media box that can also play games on the side is perfect for me.

The Xbone might not sell as many as the PS4 but MS will be making more revenue per box over its lifetime than Sony will I bet.
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Which matters little to me if they don't have any good games. I rather play on the superior platform.
 
Steve said:
HERE IS YOUR ANSWER

Michael Wilford, Studio Director of Twisted Pixel Games, said the hardware running his game at the show was the decision of his company, not Microsoft. He also told Jonathan Blow to blow it out his ass for criticizing the hardware his team is using to demo the game. :D

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So, what we have here is simply a matter of a developer that chose to run his game on hardware / software of his choice. Everyone can quit freaking out now. Wow. :eek:
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So why bother buying his game if he is running it on hardware that isn't going to be what's in the box? Not even close. I bet Microsoft must have paid him off to say that. Lol, my 2 cents.
 
refraxion said:
So why bother buying his game if he is running it on hardware that isn't going to be what's in the box? Not even close. I bet Microsoft must have paid him off to say that. Lol, my 2 cents.
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It's still 5 months from Xbox launch and who knows how long until that game comes out. Why does it matter what they're running it on now?
 
At least run it on the hardware that the system is supposed to have. Nvidia gtx?? ...
 
"Its not our fault the game demo's were running on vastly superior machines to make them look and sound as good as possible! Its the publishers!"

I'm really getting tired of this game of "ITS NOT MY FAULT!" being passed around here, somebody needs to suck it up and admit they messed up.
 
Also, I'll criticize the hardware used in the system all I want when its vastly better than what would be in the XBOX One by a longshot.

Again, this game of "ITS NOT MY FAULT" is getting stale.
 
ShamisOMally said:
"Its not our fault the game demo's were running on vastly superior machines to make them look and sound as good as possible! Its the publishers!"

I'm really getting tired of this game of "ITS NOT MY FAULT!" being passed around here, somebody needs to suck it up and admit they messed up.
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False advertisement at its best. Caught red handed and they still play the blame game. Twisted pixel is drinking the Microsoft kool aid.
 
Oh sorry I misread

So the developer did suck it up and admit he was using vastly more powerful hardware to display his games

I'll give him points for sucking it up and admitting it, but how exactly does this clear him of using incredibly overpowered hardware which is supposed to be running on a console with a 7th the horsepower?
 
Steve said:
HERE IS YOUR ANSWER

Michael Wilford, Studio Director of Twisted Pixel Games, said the hardware running his game at the show was the decision of his company, not Microsoft. He also told Jonathan Blow to blow it out his ass for criticizing the hardware his team is using to demo the game. :D

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So, what we have here is simply a matter of a developer that chose to run his game on hardware / software of his choice. Everyone can quit freaking out now. Wow. :eek:
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Just starting this thread was bound to open Pandora's Box,and once it's open,that sucker is hard as hell to close. Regardless of whose idea it was,it's just one more black eye for MS following the already bad PR they've caused for themselves over the internet connection and used game issues. You have to admit,it has to be doubly embarrassing for them when it's revealed that not only was the game running on a PC,but a Nvidia equipped one at that.
 
I still don't really see why this is a big deal. Judge the game when it's released. I don't care if they're demoing it on a beowulf cluster of PS3s at this point.
 
The problem is that consoles IN GENERAL are nothing more than a glorified PC now. They did not used to be.

So the incredible irony is: "When it really REALLY counts and I'm showing MY game to the public... SCREW showing it on AMD hardware... NO! I'm going to use the best damn card I can get. The GTX 780."

I don't really care how the showing went. It's just absolutely AMAZING that the contracts don't somehow require that these games at least run on graphics hardware made by the company building the damn graphics core of the console. Seriously now.

It's just one more reason of many to get John Q Public to use a PC in the living room and not an XBox.
 
ShamisOMally said:
Microsoft CEO's through -ALL- of E3 were proclaiming "ALL GAME DEMO'S ARE RUNNING ON XBOX ONE HARDWARE!"

Which after being outed as -BULLSHIT- has changed too "ALL GAME DEMO'S WERE RUNNING IN EQUIVALENT PC HARDWARE"

Which after -THAT- was outed as even more bullshit by these pictures showing game demo's running on GTX 780's, which is more then 6x the power of whats in the XBOX One or PS4

THIS is what everyone is mad about. SONY to my knowledge did not say the games were running on PS4's
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I just really, really don't see the problem here.

Firstly, I'm sure the devboxes were sponsored. If the product is SUBSTANTIALLY different than the demo - nobody will buy it. I have no doubt that these demos will provide a very similar experience to final - likely unfinalized - hardware.

I'm mainly excited. Things like emulation, and the lack of cross-architecture porting, is thoroughly fantastic.
 
Microsoft just release an HTPC\ XBOX OS. based on minimum pc specs and let us build our own.:D
 
A developer at E3 should always choose Dev Kits I think because it shows that MS is far enough a long that they have confidence to show off games in development running active code on kits that are going to be either identical or near so for launch.

Perhaps this makes less sense if its for a game announced to come out much later than launch. But there is a point to be made.
 
Who really cares? Don't these whiny crying idiots know by now that PC, PS4 and Xboned are one in the same?

There is no such thing as a port now ... get it! Got it? Good!
 
SixFootDuo said:
Who really cares? Don't these whiny crying idiots know by now that PC, PS4 and Xboned are one in the same?

There is no such thing as a port now ... get it! Got it? Good!
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most probably this^ I know everyone practically hates the Xbox One by now, put it in place (hate it cause of the DRM, used games crippling part, well price is questionable since the kinect is included). but seriously don't over do it and come out an idiot in the end.
 
All console games are made on PC and tested on a PC, then ported onto the console. This is just a dev box. No story here. Move along.
 
refraxion said:
Which matters little to me if they don't have any good games. I rather play on the superior platform.
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Yes that's fine. It's just folks like yourselves need to realise that you are not MS's top priority customer anymore.

Hardcore gamers are a bit further down the list now. There are more ordinary Joes that want other media services from one box that will pay subscriptions for them.

That's where the money is.
 
How about a different perspective -- if you go to an auto show and a new generation of a very popular brand of car is being shows (let's just say a new base model Mustang). Ford says to everyone "yes yes, the engine you see powering this thing is the same engine that will be in the one you buy, and it will look exactly the same and all that jazz".

You get a peek under the hood and it has a 427 cubic inch small block pumping out 550HP naturally aspirated. The first thing that pops into your mind is "that doens't make any sense". Ford then comes back and says "well that was one of our contractors engines ,we didn't put that in there so it's not really our fault for showing you the car"

Just imagine if ford also said: "oh yes, for the betterment of the car industry, even after forking over 30,000 dollars, you will not really own the car, you won't be allowed to sell or trade in the car unless specifically allowed by a 3rd party company, and the car will link up to some satellites every 24 hours and unload your driving habits to us so we can totally pretend not to share them with your insurance provider.

MS is a combination of willfully arrogant, and frighteningly stupid on this whole Xbox One fiasco. It's like nobody had a company wide meeting as to the proper steps to design/deploy/hype up a new generation console. It sounds as if there was one guy who just simply said "for this coming generation, let's just shit all over the industry, and the consumer, and not care at all what they say".
 
Gibbage said:
All console games are made on PC and tested on a PC, then ported onto the console. This is just a dev box. No story here. Move along.
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THIS.

Not to mention, true dev kits do not grow on trees, if a company is in development of a game do you really think they would waste a dev kit on E3? A test kit would normally be sent but I haven't seen or heard of any of those coming in yet so I'm assuming that they will not be released until closer to console launch. So much ignorance spewed about a non-issue.
 
I think this falls under the "Who cares?" category.. I mean really, go load up Steam and enjoy a game.
 
to above post! lol you think they program the games using a xbox or ps3 ? hahaha of course it is done on a computer haha
 
Did it say anywhere what specific nvidia cards were running the demos?
 
GoodBoy said:
What you apparently do not understand about virtual machines is that the VM "emulates" a limited set of the host OS's hardware.

The host pc can be 10x as powerful, but the VM is running on a specific amount of cpu/gpu power. Why do you think virtualization is such a big deal now? You can run 10 virtual servers on 1 physical server. And the CPU and RAM of the host os can be divided up among those 10 however you wish. VM1, 1 cpu core, 1gb ram. VM2, 2 cpu cores, 4gb ram. VM3, 1 cpu core, 768mb ram. etc. etc.

They are emulating xb1 hardware on a pc.

Still not a big deal.
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I'm sure the developer runs the VM within the restricted specifications when *internally* testing how their game would run on final XBONE hardware - that's just the smart thing to do.

But I'm betting the temptation to crank up the power would be *very* strong when demoing the same title in public in order to present the best possible gloss for your title, especially if you're not running optimized code.

Hence the distrust in this situation...
 
The XB1 and PS4 have PC components inside them anyway, the only difference is the shell o_O

Who cares
 
zeon said:
THIS.

Not to mention, true dev kits do not grow on trees, if a company is in development of a game do you really think they would waste a dev kit on E3? A test kit would normally be sent but I haven't seen or heard of any of those coming in yet so I'm assuming that they will not be released until closer to console launch. So much ignorance spewed about a non-issue.
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They're coded on a pc, that's hooked up to a Dev Kit, which is a form of the console without all the niceties and the SDK built into it. A Dev Kit isn't a windows PC with different hardware than a retail version.

Keep in mind, I think even in this thread, Sony had full test/dev kits working on the floor. Dev kits and test kits are generally sent out well beyond a year before release, that is, unless something has changed in the last few years.
 
PS4 games at E3 were running on PS4s or PS4 developer kits, not on a high end gaming rigs.
 
SixFootDuo said:
Who really cares? Don't these whiny crying idiots know by now that PC, PS4 and Xboned are one in the same?

There is no such thing as a port now ... get it! Got it? Good!
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That would be true if all platforms shared the same APIs. They don't. They all have the same CPU architecture, their processors have the same endianness and all platforms use rasterizing GPUs with support for programmable shading. Lots of things are the same, but just as many things are different.
 
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