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This article mainly focuses on Facebook but I think it is safe to say the majority of people don't like targeted political ads. The percentage of people that do like them are probably politicians. ;)

85 percent of adult Americans agree (including 47 percent who agree strongly) that "If I found out that Facebook was sending me ads for political candidates based on my profile information that I had set to private, I would be angry."
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Yeah, but I bet a survey asking people if they would act on their discontent with this issue would yield very different results! ;)
 
I fucking hate the political ads I see on Youtube. That shit drives me nuts.

And ibtl.
 
They should not allow negative political ads. Simply state your case and why you think you are better, and that's it. :rolleyes:
 
And yet 99% of that 85% would vote based on those very ads. They are extremely effective and the reason people really hate this is that it exposes their ignorance of an issue.
 
I hate ALL political ads, never seen one that is targeted tho.
They're like whino babies catering to inbreeds who like to stay within a closed-loop humancentipede social group feeding on each other BS.
 
PornoSatan said:
Why should they? It's not like voting is going to make a difference. Repubs and Demos are the same.
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Exactly, their all corrupt assclowns. Just pick the one which looks the least creepy/is the least annoying...

Problem is, all politicians look disturbing, and are all degrees of annoying, so most people don't vote.
 
PornoSatan said:
Why should they? It's not like voting is going to make a difference. Repubs and Demos are the same.
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Theres still a better candidate. Not voting is like seeing a time bomb about to go off and not even trying to cut a wire. Yeah, the outcome is 99% certain but take a chance on the wire you think will save you.
 
Cali3350 said:
Theres still a better candidate. Not voting is like seeing a time bomb about to go off and not even trying to cut a wire. Yeah, the outcome is 99% certain but take a chance on the wire you think will save you.
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That's why I am voting for the orange wire.
 
Cali3350 said:
Theres still a better candidate. Not voting is like seeing a time bomb about to go off and not even trying to cut a wire. Yeah, the outcome is 99% certain but take a chance on the wire you think will save you.
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Exactly. I hate it when people say "I don't vote, both are stupid".

Either vote, or qft when it comes to anything regarding politics/taxes/etc.
 
I love targeted political ads because it helps me Identify the dumb.

My dumb test looks like this.

Are you a republican? If yes you are a dumb please avoid contact with me
Are you a democrat? If yes you are a dumb please avoid contact with me
do you feel that both parties do nothing more than harm the political process, are both run by the same wealthy group/people, and should be eliminated by any and all means possible? If yes congratulation you are not a dumb, but still please avoid contact with me.
 
Paid political advertisements should be disallowed, period. Internet, TV, radio, doesn't matter.

If you want to campaign, get your supporters to do it free of charge, or not at all.
 
I voted in the last election. I felt soiled afterwards and held my head in shame for participating. I think we're down to less than 45% participation now.
 
ICOM said:
I voted in the last election. I felt soiled afterwards and held my head in shame for participating. I think we're down to less than 45% participation now.
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In a democracy, or rule by majority, surely that means the system is beyond broken? :D
 
If everyone continues to vote they are continuing to support a broken system. Just imagine when only 17.2% of the people vote....It will send a loud and obvious message......Far more so than voting for lesser of 2 evils just to find out they are both financed by the same institutions and have the same core policies on all major issues.
 
As someone who actually does follow politics, news, and candidates, I can absolutely tell you that when I vote... it doesn't mean a damn thing.

Nothing will change - because the next clown that gets in office will do the same thing as the last few presidents... and that simply is "Whatever they damn well feel like".

This county is broken - down to it's core. When just about every congressmen is a multi-millionaire, and you can buy your way into and out of just about anything. What the hell is the point of my one single vote?

Especially considering it's not my vote that decides but the electoral college. 51% or even 90% of the people could vote for candidate X, but if the electoral college "feels like it" they can go the other way.

The fact is crap in this country has been setup (on purpose to be so damn complex it's not even funny anymore. Tax code, election process, court system, legal system, just about everything.

I think myself and many others would be more inclined to vote if we knew that each vote counted towards the actual result. 1 citizen, 1 vote. Anyone found to vote tamper or rigging the counts should be sent to a federal work prison for 20 years.

The whole two party system is a joke -- people voting just because you are part of a group, and not for what you have done or will do is just mind bogglingly stupid.

The other sad fact is that a good majority of people in this country 1) don't care and 2) are not educated enough to make an informed decision. The other problem is that when certain portions of the population are given the ability to vote themselves either more power or more money, the game is already over. It works for both rich and pool people alike.

Cletus or tyrone will vote for whoever promises to make it easier for them to get welfare every time, balanced budget be damned.

My personal opinion is that it might take another 20, 50, 100 years, but another revolution is the only way we are going to shed our increasingly corrupt system.
 
collegeboy69us said:
As someone who actually does follow politics, news, and candidates, I can absolutely tell you that when I vote... it doesn't mean a damn thing.

Nothing will change - because the next clown that gets in office will do the same thing as the last few presidents... and that simply is "Whatever they damn well feel like".

This county is broken - down to it's core. When just about every congressmen is a multi-millionaire, and you can buy your way into and out of just about anything. What the hell is the point of my one single vote?

Especially considering it's not my vote that decides but the electoral college. 51% or even 90% of the people could vote for candidate X, but if the electoral college "feels like it" they can go the other way.

The fact is crap in this country has been setup (on purpose to be so damn complex it's not even funny anymore. Tax code, election process, court system, legal system, just about everything.

I think myself and many others would be more inclined to vote if we knew that each vote counted towards the actual result. 1 citizen, 1 vote. Anyone found to vote tamper or rigging the counts should be sent to a federal work prison for 20 years.

The whole two party system is a joke -- people voting just because you are part of a group, and not for what you have done or will do is just mind bogglingly stupid.

The other sad fact is that a good majority of people in this country 1) don't care and 2) are not educated enough to make an informed decision. The other problem is that when certain portions of the population are given the ability to vote themselves either more power or more money, the game is already over. It works for both rich and pool people alike.

Cletus or tyrone will vote for whoever promises to make it easier for them to get welfare every time, balanced budget be damned.

My personal opinion is that it might take another 20, 50, 100 years, but another revolution is the only way we are going to shed our increasingly corrupt system.
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That whole two party system with the push and shoving reminds me a lot of the "fictional" Illuminati doctrine.
 
Dr.Diablo said:
what bothers me is a good portion of the U.S.A. does not vote.
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What bothers me is a good portion of the US that votes along party lines without even attempting to become informed. The non-voters aren't helping, but at least they aren't hurting. Still, if all of the non-voters simply cast random third party votes out of protest (even based on the same level of ignorance as most voters), we might be looking at an entirely different political landscape.
 
Mini-Me said:
What bothers me is a good portion of the US that votes along party lines without even attempting to become informed. The non-voters aren't helping, but at least they aren't hurting. Still, if all of the non-voters simply cast random third party votes out of protest (even based on the same level of ignorance as most voters), we might be looking at an entirely different political landscape.
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No the None voters are the only one's who are helping, because by voting you are participating in something that doesn't work.

If you don't like any of the contestants on American Idol don't vote.......hahaha As if the President of American can get more votes than an american Idol contestant.
 
collegeboy69us said:
As someone who actually does follow politics, news, and candidates, I can absolutely tell you that when I vote... it doesn't mean a damn thing.

Nothing will change - because the next clown that gets in office will do the same thing as the last few presidents... and that simply is "Whatever they damn well feel like".

This county is broken - down to it's core. When just about every congressmen is a multi-millionaire, and you can buy your way into and out of just about anything. What the hell is the point of my one single vote?

Especially considering it's not my vote that decides but the electoral college. 51% or even 90% of the people could vote for candidate X, but if the electoral college "feels like it" they can go the other way.

The fact is crap in this country has been setup (on purpose to be so damn complex it's not even funny anymore. Tax code, election process, court system, legal system, just about everything.

I think myself and many others would be more inclined to vote if we knew that each vote counted towards the actual result. 1 citizen, 1 vote. Anyone found to vote tamper or rigging the counts should be sent to a federal work prison for 20 years.

The whole two party system is a joke -- people voting just because you are part of a group, and not for what you have done or will do is just mind bogglingly stupid.

The other sad fact is that a good majority of people in this country 1) don't care and 2) are not educated enough to make an informed decision. The other problem is that when certain portions of the population are given the ability to vote themselves either more power or more money, the game is already over. It works for both rich and pool people alike.

Cletus or tyrone will vote for whoever promises to make it easier for them to get welfare every time, balanced budget be damned.

My personal opinion is that it might take another 20, 50, 100 years, but another revolution is the only way we are going to shed our increasingly corrupt system.
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This x1000,especially the bold part.

If soooo many people can't find work and need to be on welfare,why can't they put them to work doing things that don't have the funding,like cleaning up park/streets and forest areas that are constantly being closed do to lack of funding.Also,make any one that wants welfare take a fucking drug test,almost any company these days does that,why should the government be any different considering they are handing out our tax dollars to these fucks that have never had a job in their lives and put a damn limit on how long you can receive these "benefits",I see people that have been on welfare for damn near there entire adult lives,getting 10's of thousands of dollars worth of welfare "benefits" and never paying one red cent in fucking taxes,while getting huge tax returns at the end of the year,how the fuck is that balanced and the worst part is these people think they are entitled to these freebies and that the government owes it to them.fucking scum.

I was under the impression that you paid the taxes you owe and if you paid too much you got the difference back.but giving people 10x the amount that they owed the government in taxes is just fucking stupid,how does any one expect people to find ways to create/earn income on there own if the government is paying people to be fat,lazy slobs.

I do understand that there are legitimate uses of these kinds of programs and I support that,helping your fellow man is always a good thing to do,but these systems are being scammed to an extreme level and are bleeding the country from the inside out and are in serious need of an overhaul.
 
stevedave said:
No the None voters are the only one's who are helping, because by voting you are participating in something that doesn't work.

If you don't like any of the contestants on American Idol don't vote.......hahaha As if the President of American can get more votes than an american Idol contestant.
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Exactly how are non-voters actively helping? Even if 99% of the public stayed at home, the few who voted would still most likely elect a Giant Douche or a Turd Sandwich (although low turnout would make it easier for worthwhile candidates to push through), and the vast majority of people would still religiously treat the government as if it's legitimate.

It would be one thing if the non-voters were engaging in massive civil disobedience by refusing to pay taxes, but they're not. The beast still extorts and abuses as it pleases, so it cannot be simply ignored, and refusing to vote changes nothing. Voting doesn't change anything either, but at least it has the longshot potential for doing so, if enough people actually voted for third party candidates in general elections or worthwhile (non-media-anointed) candidates in primaries.
 
Mini-Me said:
Exactly how are non-voters actively helping? Even if 99% of the public stayed at home, the few who voted would still most likely elect a Giant Douche or a Turd Sandwich (although low turnout would make it easier for worthwhile candidates to push through), and the vast majority of people would still religiously treat the government as if it's legitimate.

It would be one thing if the non-voters were engaging in massive civil disobedience by refusing to pay taxes, but they're not. The beast still extorts and abuses as it pleases, so it cannot be simply ignored, and refusing to vote changes nothing. Voting doesn't change anything either, but at least it has the longshot potential for doing so, if enough people actually voted for third party candidates in general elections or worthwhile (non-media-anointed) candidates in primaries.
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Large scale boycott of Voting in itself is engaging in Massive Civil Disobedience its all in the numbers. If 90% of the people don't vote that is a clear and obvious message that we don't want either candidate. By not voting you are saying I don't accept Mitt or Obama or any other puppet they replace them with. And if a real human actually runs that 90% can rally with the new flag. Someone who uses logic and morality and can see the obvious that we need a new system from the ground up. Taxes, Social Security, debt, military, states, currency, stock market, voting process, Congress.......Everything is either completely broken or needs major improvements.......and Neither party can or will fix these.
 
I guess I'm that one percent. Though not really.

I like ads every now and then when it's not invasive and pertains to my interest or something I might want. To tell that is nearly impossible. And if it's an entertaining ad, I don't mind, like this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBvBqfB977w

Hulu seems to try but I've said that the stupid Obama/Romney ad doesn't pertain to me, but they keep showing the stupid shit.
 
Dr.Diablo said:
what bothers me is a good portion of the U.S.A. does not vote.
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I used to vote. Every politician and every question I voted on was elected or approved, from when I started in 1974 on. Life in america kept getting worse, taxes kept going up, corrupt people kept getting elected, so I figured it must be my fault. I haven't voted since1996.
 
I am sorry but not voting is a protest???? Insane argument, if 99% of people didn't vote... the candidates would just focus on the 1% that do vote and get elected the same either way. You think the same people that spend money on elections would say "Hey people aren't voting, if they did my election would cost more money by having to campaign to a wider range of groups/people... I want my election to be harder/costlier so I must change the system to get more people to vote"?

If people instead actually rejected what they didn't like and voted 3rd party it would shake the system up a bit.

The problem is the people pure and simple, there is no easy fix for the American douche society.

A majority of Americans do not have the will to support their convictions, also they rarely have the ability to view the world outside of their own backyard/circle. They also mentally cannot view candidates as other then good or evil.

I mean come on, sending major troops to 2 countries to fight a war on terror and everyone expected that lowering taxes would pay for it???? That is the attitude of this country, everything apparently is like walmart, more for less.

They also have released many surveys where people hate "attack" ads, yet year after year those ads are the ones that work and are used more often which is just sickening.

American's just want to vote for the good guy and hate the bad guy. Never mind that both candidates are rarely either one. They are 2 people with different views on different subjects, subjects which are not proportionately weighted btw. People freaking vote based on pro-life/choice only even though that probably will not even be addressed in the next 4 years.

It is mind blowing, individually people seem way more rational yet as a group they are insane. Talk to people about weed, 80% of people don't really give a crap or use on occasion themselves. Yet for some reason there isn't any change to consider it a less dangerous drug then Cocaine (it currently is considered more dangerous by the government btw).
 
dandirk said:
I am sorry but not voting is a protest???? Insane argument, if 99% of people didn't vote... the candidates would just focus on the 1% that do vote and get elected the same either way.
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If 99% of a population didn't vote for the current president is he really the current president? At that point it wouldn't take much effort to really shake things up a bit, many possibilities including holding a second election for the real president. Not a republican or a democrat but a president. That is a start but a lot more is needed than just a president the are designed to have very limited power because they are switched out every 4 years the real power is in the term lifers who are corrupt and need the GTFO.
 
stevedave said:
If 99% of a population didn't vote for the current president is he really the current president? At that point it wouldn't take much effort to really shake things up a bit, many possibilities including holding a second election for the real president. Not a republican or a democrat but a president. That is a start but a lot more is needed than just a president the are designed to have very limited power because they are switched out every 4 years the real power is in the term lifers who are corrupt and need the GTFO.
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I am pretty sure he still would be. As far as I know there is no such thing as a minimum vote requirement. If only1 person from each state voted, it would count just as effectively as 100,000.

I agree, I would actually be more for longer terms but limited, say 1 6 year presidential term. Seams like 4 years is only enough to get one or two things done, once you count lame duck and then election time.

I don't think we can avoid political parties, the resources and ability to support a person nationally compared to a single independent person is just too great. The only way I could see getting rid of parties is if the entire election/campaign process was run/paid for by the government. But then how would you widdle down the 100s of crazies that will come out of the woodwork???

Personally I don't an issue with the 2 party system, if they weren't so polarized. Good luck being a republican if you are pro-choice and vice versa with the dems. People and currently the parties do not have ANY sense of variation.

Another large problem is that people just don't care to know the truth, look at all the hubbub about Obama and the "they didn't create that" quote Mit himself was bashing him with. Pure out of context crap, they know the people don't care. Just the same as the lame freaking Obama commercial where Mit is singing "America the Beautiful" will chopped up outsourcing quotes from horrible sources even.

We Americans should be outraged by what elections have turned into, and should be voting for Micky freaking Mouse.

Vote "None of the Above!" FTW
 
dandirk said:
I am pretty sure he still would be. As far as I know there is no such thing as a minimum vote requirement. If only1 person from each state voted, it would count just as effectively as 100,000.

I agree, I would actually be more for longer terms but limited, say 1 6 year presidential term. Seams like 4 years is only enough to get one or two things done, once you count lame duck and then election time.

I don't think we can avoid political parties, the resources and ability to support a person nationally compared to a single independent person is just too great. The only way I could see getting rid of parties is if the entire election/campaign process was run/paid for by the government. But then how would you widdle down the 100s of crazies that will come out of the woodwork???

Personally I don't an issue with the 2 party system, if they weren't so polarized. Good luck being a republican if you are pro-choice and vice versa with the dems. People and currently the parties do not have ANY sense of variation.

Another large problem is that people just don't care to know the truth, look at all the hubbub about Obama and the "they didn't create that" quote Mit himself was bashing him with. Pure out of context crap, they know the people don't care. Just the same as the lame freaking Obama commercial where Mit is singing "America the Beautiful" will chopped up outsourcing quotes from horrible sources even.

We Americans should be outraged by what elections have turned into, and should be voting for Micky freaking Mouse.

Vote "None of the Above!" FTW
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The main issue with a 2 party System is it pigeon holes all thinking into 2 categories and limits all avenues of creativity and problem solving. I often disagree with both Republicans and Democrats and prefer a different option than what those 2 often narrow minded groups provide.

The saying "what is will always be' is how many people think. So many possibilities are open once you learn to un-learn how things are currently done and understand that just because something has been done the same way for a long time doesn't mean is has to stay the same way forever.

Currently Elections campaigns are expensive. However it is possible to completely change that by changing the election process. Instead of a 2 year Campaign full of bull shit they do it like a Job Interview......Because it is a job.

Start first with some type of testing. General IQ, General knowledge of the Laws and procedures, foreign policies......a simple way to keep the Sara Palins from being president. Have a few other checks and balances then move into the debates.

change the topics of the debate from something like "what is your favorite color" to something like "What is the justification for keeping Iran out of the United Nations" and don't except none answer political bull shit.

any candidate that receive any amount of financing from any 3rd party is disqualified.
any candidate that spends any money on their campaign is disqualified.

and this is just shit off the top of my head.....Their are people way smarter than me that can develop a election process that truly identifies the most capable president.



However the first step is rejecting the current election process.
 
collegeboy69us said:
As someone who actually does follow politics, news, and candidates, I can absolutely tell you that when I vote... it doesn't mean a damn thing.

Nothing will change - because the next clown that gets in office will do the same thing as the last few presidents... and that simply is "Whatever they damn well feel like".

This county is broken - down to it's core. When just about every congressmen is a multi-millionaire, and you can buy your way into and out of just about anything. What the hell is the point of my one single vote?

Especially considering it's not my vote that decides but the electoral college. 51% or even 90% of the people could vote for candidate X, but if the electoral college "feels like it" they can go the other way.

The fact is crap in this country has been setup (on purpose to be so damn complex it's not even funny anymore. Tax code, election process, court system, legal system, just about everything.

I think myself and many others would be more inclined to vote if we knew that each vote counted towards the actual result. 1 citizen, 1 vote. Anyone found to vote tamper or rigging the counts should be sent to a federal work prison for 20 years.

The whole two party system is a joke -- people voting just because you are part of a group, and not for what you have done or will do is just mind bogglingly stupid.

The other sad fact is that a good majority of people in this country 1) don't care and 2) are not educated enough to make an informed decision. The other problem is that when certain portions of the population are given the ability to vote themselves either more power or more money, the game is already over. It works for both rich and pool people alike.

Cletus or tyrone will vote for whoever promises to make it easier for them to get welfare every time, balanced budget be damned.

My personal opinion is that it might take another 20, 50, 100 years, but another revolution is the only way we are going to shed our increasingly corrupt system.
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damn man, you said it
 
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