eBay Sales of Windows 7 Party Packs Halted

hmm so If I bought some pre-orders of Win 7 upgrade @ 49.99 and after that got Tech net. Now If I turn around and sell my copies that make me a douche bag also?

I'm selling my party pack and giving the lucky person a free copy of windows 7. Not selling the software. If they don't want the Free software they don't have to take it.

No different then selling a piece of crap bag of case screws and giving a free copy of a game you don't want that came free with your video card.

LOL the biggest complainers always seem to be the ones that didn't get in on the deal.
 
I've already got 2 copies of Windows 7, but by disagreeing, I must be a sore loser!

Do you have a brick wall to sell? I may need one.
 
The hardest thing to do is to try to explain to a douche bag why he is a douche bag because they just won't get it.
 
It don't always happen, but MS is right on this one.
 
zetachi said:
LOL the biggest complainers always seem to be the ones that didn't get in on the deal.
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This.

Now for a summary of the topic:

It's illegal to sell NFR products.
People who sell them are douchebags.
Wait, first sale doctrine - it's legal to sell.
People who sell them are douchebags.

Moral of the story - we're not going to agree. Realistically this was just marking for Microsoft. They assumed people would sell their CDs (despite the label of NFR - they are Microsoft and not some first year entrepreneur ), so this probably got factored into the cost. So quit all y'er bitchin'. Damn, I haven't seen so many printed "douchebags" ever in my life...
 
Let's pretend that I'm an up and coming musician, and people know about my work. I give you a special edition album with the stipulation that you don't sell it, and you tell your friends that I've done this. This increases demand for a product that you have and they don't.

The fact that you HAVE my album doesn't give you the RIGHT to distribute it for YOUR gain just because YOU want to.

You people are very dense sometimes...
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I would have every right to sell that physical disk you gave me for whatever price I want to. I would not have a right to make 50 copies of your disk and sell those. You are confused about what distribution means.
 
anyone know the legality of trading NFR software plus cash for something else? just wondering, haven't been able to find a concrete answer from google. wouldnt it just mean you're buying something else at a lower cost while giving them in exchange cash and a free gift?

i'd say let people sell whatever they want to, though after they've fulfilled the premise of MS giving them the kit. so, to those of you selling the kits before or never intended to host the launch party, shame on you but i really dont care, and i'm sure microsoft already took those people into consideration when they allocated the quantity of kits.
 
GhostDog said:
I mean, I'd agree that not having a party is wrong. Or having a party and not showing people 7, because you're selling it and don't have another copy, isn't cool. But all I see here is people who are jealous that they didn't get free windows.
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I won a free copy, installed it myself, and I still think you're a douche. Now what. Oh that's right, there' s nothing to argue about.
 
JohnnyNapalm said:
You didn't "win" anything.
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The party packs aren't the only avenues of obtaining Win 7. Maybe he did.

Either way, this is silly.
Every American has the right to sell anything they own. Period. There is no law that bares selling personal possessions. Would that really make any sense? Are you guys in the United States? We made this country for freedom and that includes my right to do whatever the hell I want with my possessions. If something is given to you, you now own it, you can do whatever you want with it, to the extent of not harming another individual.

You guys are delusional. NFR means nothing. There is no NFR law.
The angst is very misplaced.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
The party packs aren't the only avenues of obtaining Win 7. Maybe he did.

Either way, this is silly.
Every American has the right to sell anything they own. Period. There is no law that bares selling personal possessions. Would that really make any sense? Are you guys in the United States? We made this country for freedom and that includes my right to do whatever the hell I want with my possessions. If something is given to you, you now own it, you can do whatever you want with it, to the extent of not harming another individual.

You guys are delusional. NFR means nothing. There is no NFR law.
The angst is very misplaced.
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And yet, the american company (microsoft) says other wise. :D
 
LOL what cracks me up is EBAY pulling these sales at random then sending me an email for things I might be interested in buying LOL the links are all for windows 7 illegal sales :)
 
I just hate i forgot to sign up and get my windows 7 party pack and was going to use it. Now most that have it don't want it or need it.
 
KILLER_K said:
I just hate i forgot to sign up and get my windows 7 party pack and was going to use it. Now most that have it don't want it or need it.
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I dont think it's most, maybe quite a few but definetly not most.
I got my party pack and am having a few ppl over to show it off on the 23rd. I can't wait :D.
 
03grandam said:
I dont think it's most, maybe quite a few but definetly not most.
I got my party pack and am having a few ppl over to show it off on the 23rd. I can't wait :D.
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Same here. Party pack received, W7 installed, freakin sweet. If you signed up with the intent to resell then I think that makes you a douche. Don't cry, my opinion means next to nothing.

It seems to be the attitude that you used to see on a lot of the "deal" sites.....slickdeals, fatwallet, etc.....people sign up for this stuff because it's the best deal, they need that rush. Or they just want to resell and get something for nothing. In this case it's not all that bad, as so many are selling it is driving prices down. Now the douchebags who collectively cornered the market on Wii's,.....I could stab all of those cocksuckers. Hopefully with the recession in full swing we won't see that kind of shit for a while.
 
People bickering over sales and what not only means a win for one party, Microsoft. Could be a scheme to make people talk about it and generate more publicity for launch.
 
I'm a bit curious; people are all saying just because the software is labeled NFR, that NFR isn't enforceable because of first sale. What about if someone signed a contract stating they wouldn't sell it? Isn't that contract enforceable? Someone could sell it, and the original provider could take them to court not for selling it, but for breaking contract? I thought that part of applying for the software was electronically signing a contract stating that the software would not be resold and must be used for the party. If that contract is not enforceable, then there's no point to having it in the first place. Is there any possible way for someone to give something or sell something without a resale usage, that would be enforceable?
 
radiohedwig said:
ugh just saw that post. And saw all the people on their soap boxes saying that they should be able to sell it. They can argue all they want about whether they can, but it still doesn't change the fact that they are d-bags. So are the people who bought PS3s at launch and sell them for $1500. Just as bad as ticket scalpers.
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Hey if people are stupid enough to buy them, why not.. dont blame someone for making a buck cause someone else is willing to pay for it.

if i could sell PS3 fo $1500 dam right i will, no one is forcing you to buy it, dont like it, dont buy it, then people wouldnt sell it for $1500, want to get mad, get mad at the people who pay for things that are over priced.
 
GhostDog said:
I'm curios, why is it that everyone who is against this think that those of us who are trying to sell it are not going to host a party?

I won a copy, I want to sell it, I'm also hosting a party. I already have Windows 7 Ultimate. Lots of people do. Technet, etc.
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Exactly, sorry MS wants YOU to spend money throwing a party to sell THEIR product, they should be sending you a check for $100 for snacks and drinks to be a sales person for them, sell it, get the money , use the money to host the party, sounds good to me

JohnnyNapalm said:
Who cares if you're hosting the party? The disc is labeled NFR, case closed.
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Not is isnt if you could of been bothered to even read the thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
alcuin said:
I'm a bit curious; people are all saying just because the software is labeled NFR, that NFR isn't enforceable because of first sale. What about if someone signed a contract stating they wouldn't sell it? Isn't that contract enforceable? Someone could sell it, and the original provider could take them to court not for selling it, but for breaking contract? I thought that part of applying for the software was electronically signing a contract stating that the software would not be resold and must be used for the party. If that contract is not enforceable, then there's no point to having it in the first place. Is there any possible way for someone to give something or sell something without a resale usage, that would be enforceable?
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EULA you speak of - they mean nothing as well since they are agreed to after the fact you bought the product.

So unless a company makes you sign some contract before you buy the game, they cant do jack, and even then they are making you sign a contract over a product that may be faulty, not work, or something, which i think would then allow you to sue the company for selling you a broken/unfinished product.
 
MrGuvernment said:
Exactly, sorry MS wants YOU to spend money throwing a party to sell THEIR product, they should be sending you a check for $100 for snacks and drinks to be a sales person for them, sell it, get the money , use the money to host the party, sounds good to me



Not is isnt if you could of been bothered to even read the thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you have problems spending money to throw a party, don't sign up for the party pack? It's not like Microsoft forced you to throw a party.
 
MrGuvernment said:
EULA you speak of - they mean nothing as well since they are agreed to after the fact you bought the product.

So unless a company makes you sign some contract before you buy the game, they cant do jack, and even then they are making you sign a contract over a product that may be faulty, not work, or something, which i think would then allow you to sue the company for selling you a broken/unfinished product.
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I don't speak of a paper EULA you get in a box after you purchase software, but the online application form for the Win7 party pack. There was a form you answered questions to, and were clearly given terms before given the software. Isn't that be binding? Or if I sign a contract stating I have to pay for a house I want to buy, get keys to said house, then can declare, I have the house now, you can't make me pay for it?
 
MrGuvernment said:
Hey if people are stupid enough to buy them, why not.. dont blame someone for making a buck cause someone else is willing to pay for it.

if i could sell PS3 fo $1500 dam right i will, no one is forcing you to buy it, dont like it, dont buy it, then people wouldnt sell it for $1500, want to get mad, get mad at the people who pay for things that are over priced.
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the whole point is just the same as ticket scalping. You're creating a artificial supply shortage to increase demand for the product. If people didn't do this, more people could buy the product at the correct price. Some people can't sit at a gamestop in an hour long line to buy PS3s to resell them, because they have real jobs that support the American economy.
 
MrGuvernment said:
Hey if people are stupid enough to buy them, why not.. dont blame someone for making a buck cause someone else is willing to pay for it.

if i could sell PS3 fo $1500 dam right i will, no one is forcing you to buy it, dont like it, dont buy it, then people wouldnt sell it for $1500, want to get mad, get mad at the people who pay for things that are over priced.
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I'll get mad at both of you. The PS3's weren't as bad....you couldn't find a Wii that wasn't being resold without a very significant investment of time and energy for at least a year and a half in my area. I only managed to get one because I was banging a Target employee and she put one aside for me.

Although I will say again that hopefully due to the economic problems we shouldn't see that kind of horseshit for a while....and that anything that people are reselling like that is something I wouldn't want to buy in the first place. If you can't ramp up enough within one year to satisfy demand I don't want your product.

However, this is all off-topic.....

MrGuvernment said:
Exactly, sorry MS wants YOU to spend money throwing a party to sell THEIR product, they should be sending you a check for $100 for snacks and drinks to be a sales person for them, sell it, get the money , use the money to host the party, sounds good to me
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Let's just forget the fact that one makes a conscious effort to sign up for to host a party to get the free software...what the fuck do you think a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate is? Compensation, perhaps? No, how dare they! Giving you $320 in software for free with the agreement that you have a party and spread the good word.....gosh, that's so unfair of M$!!!111
 
I know a few people on here who turned Kyle in to Microsoft for allowing W7 NFR to be sold.

Now its not allowed.
 
No, he stopped allowing it once microsoft complained about the ebay thing, just as he said he would.
 
It's not my site obviously, but I do find the whole situation hilarious to be honest. If one was to buy a copy of Mac OSX, and install it on their own hardware as far as the [H] is concerned that's a no-no. Can't talk about that here. Mind you it's legally purchased software and hardware. And the sale of a product, clearly labeled NOT FOR RESALE is explicitly endorsed. Yeah, can't imagine why some would be offended. Anyone who turned this site in clearly has a bit of Douche in them, but I can see the reasoning.
 
Ghettobox said:
And the sale of a product, clearly labeled NOT FOR RESALE is explicitly endorsed. Yeah, can't imagine why some would be offended. Anyone who turned this site in clearly has a bit of Douche in them, but I can see the reasoning.
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This is what really got me..."we'll allow this, but we know that MS will invariably lay the hammer down, at which point we won't allow it". Yeah, no defacto admission of impropriety there.
 
I don't see the problem with this.

Lame of MS to do this.
 
I want to sale my W7 XP Pro Upgrade I bought from Amazon. Is there something wrong with that?
 
SonDa5 said:
I want to sale my W7 XP Pro Upgrade I bought from Amazon. Is there something wrong with that?
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I see no problem to that, since you didn't agree to any terms before you bought it. With the party pack, there were terms before people would be eligible to receive it that they agreed to.
 
JayteeBates said:
I would have every right to sell that physical disk you gave me for whatever price I want to. I would not have a right to make 50 copies of your disk and sell those. You are confused about what distribution means.
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No, if the stipulation that YOU AGREE TO is to not distribute (i.e. give, sell, copy, anything other than YOUR OWN USE et. al) the album, you ARE IN THE WRONG here to sell the disc and could be held liable for damages of sales of the album, punitive, and lost business technically (though realistically probably just a small amount). I sincerely hope no one ever takes you seriously hosting any kind of review site where they send you a pre-release product to make a review with. Unbelievable.
 
GoldenTiger said:
No, if the stipulation that YOU AGREE TO is to not distribute (i.e. give, sell, copy, anything other than YOUR OWN USE et. al) the album, you ARE IN THE WRONG here to sell the disc and could be held liable for damages of sales of the album, punitive, and lost business technically (though realistically probably just a small amount). I sincerely hope no one ever takes you seriously hosting any kind of review site where they send you a pre-release product to make a review with. Unbelievable.
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And that, gentlemen, is one of the reasons why copyright law needs a reform.
 
ChairmanMiau said:
And that, gentlemen, is one of the reasons why copyright law needs a reform.
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Be that as it may (and I do agree with that statement in the general sense), agreeing to not resell something or distribute it, then doing so, is both morally and legally wrong.
 
Crosshairs said:
as long as its not an NFR version, then it should be fine to sell .
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I posted a for sale add in the for sale forum and it got deleted.

I want to sale my Windows 7 Pro upgrade software that I bought from Amazon. I posted the add yesterday and it was deleted.
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