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Quick Question. Since most mice these days are USB, do you guys have USB - PS/2 converters so that the USB mouse can connect to a KVM switch?
 
Quick Question. Since most mice these days are USB, do you guys have USB - PS/2 converters so that the USB mouse can connect to a KVM switch?
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I actually use both usb and ps2 mice, 2 of my kvms are ps2, and one is all usb, They are belkin 2 port kvms. On the ps2 kvms, i only had one usb mouse so i only needed one adapter.
 
im looking to get a rack style KVM, so...i guess i'll have to live with having a converter, the connection is much looser when using a ps2 converter but it may just be the one i have.
 
wayne said:
a few questions i would appreciate answered please

1-what do you mean by clustering and how is it done?
Uhm, type if in google.. how it's done isn't something that is done in a sec.
Basically it's putting several computers or just cpu's together onto one process to make a "supercomputer". Ofcourse it's faster :p (let's forget overhead for a sec).

2-can crossover cables be crimped with cat5e?, i heard its just changing the order of the wires inside the cable
Crossover has nothing to do with cat5e. It's a type of cable.. Yeah, it's the order of the wires inside.

3- is cat5e cheap at homedepot?, i remember a kind of cabling home depot sells cheap that someone was talking about the other day, i think it was cat5e?.. about how much would it cost for a 500' spool?

Dunno

4- what do i look out for when i buy a crimper?

Maybe if it can crimp RJ11 too..

5-those huge number port switches... how do you know if its broken in any way?... test every single port?

When a switch is broken, you don't just test every port.. Why should you ? If a port doesn"t work anymore, but another does.. use the other then :p

6-what is rack tower servers used for?.. do you guys really have THAT many computers on a network to need soo many switches and ports for a house?

Can you say hobby / madness ? Why do some people pay for a $1000 golfclub ?

7- i have a few old systems like pentium 100's, 486's, and PII 233's... how can i put them to use in terms of networking? besides folding... what else can i do with them? servers?, what kind of servers?, how?... im a bit lost as i am a noob with lotsa old computers
webserver, fileserver, mailserver, firewall, proxy, ...
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I hope that answer your questions
 
twan said:
I hope that answer your questions
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1- oh yea, i ll google it
2- so when i wanna crimp my own crossover cable, i dont have to buy another type of cable besides cat5e?
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4-yea, but i heard that quality crimpers should be bought or they wont crimp wires tightly or something... not exactly sure thats why i m asking
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6- i guess people pay like $1000 for a golfclub because they want quality... but then all that network stuff, its about quantity... i see hundreds of RJ45 jacks but are these people really gonna hook up computers to every single port?
7-"webserver, fileserver, mailserver, firewall, proxy"- im a lil confused about these things... is it really necessary?... how would i make my own webserver and fileserver?.. and mailserver, would that mean like a mail account with my own domain like my email can be like [email protected]?... one computer for a firewall?, is it like a computer thats first in the network chain and it runs a firewall program that filters all internet or something?... whats a proxy?

thanks
 
wayne said:
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edit- heres a pic of my same comp and table

uughh, just look at the table and case.... yes, i have a VERY messy table and house too... so i sorta did a lil photo editing to save me some embarassment :rolleyes:

my case is a lil different from yours because of my lil fan mod and switch in the cd drive bezel... but that doesnt matter :D
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haha that its great. i like the editing i didnt even notice that you edited it :p
 
wayne said:
2- so when i wanna crimp my own crossover cable, i dont have to buy another type of cable besides cat5e?

4-yea, but i heard that quality crimpers should be bought or they wont crimp wires tightly or something... not exactly sure thats why i m asking

6- i guess people pay like $1000 for a golfclub because they want quality... but then all that network stuff, its about quantity... i see hundreds of RJ45 jacks but are these people really gonna hook up computers to every single port?

7-"webserver, fileserver, mailserver, firewall, proxy"- im a lil confused about these things... is it really necessary?... how would i make my own webserver and fileserver?.. and mailserver, would that mean like a mail account with my own domain like my email can be like [email protected]?... one computer for a firewall?, is it like a computer thats first in the network chain and it runs a firewall program that filters all internet or something?... whats a proxy?

thanks
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2. No, just use Cat5, 5e or 6 to make your cable. The pinouts are in the FAQ, but it is as you said, simply pairing different wires together on one end of the cable. You're basically making the send cable on one end of the cable the receive cable on the other end.

4. You'll want a pair of ratcheting crimpers. Home Depot carries the Ideal brand of crimpers that usually have this feature. Basically, you have to fully depress the crimpers before they can be released ensuring a good crimp every time. Here is a pic of the ones I'm talking about. (the ones in the lower pic).

6. No, we probably won't use all the connections on a patch panel or switch. Hell, most of us don't have a need for gigabit or fiber in our homes either... but it's all about having the most toys. I mean, I don't need a Cisco router for my internet connection... but it looks hella cool on my rack.

7. See above. Again, most people don't need their own mailserver for their two email addresses, but it's still fun to have. Plus, you get a lot of great hands on experience doing it yourself rather than just signing up for a Hotmail account. ;)
 
gregee said:
it is also about learning new things
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But mostly toys :D. That said, I only have two switches that are not at capacity, and the two that aren't full are both aleast half full. :)
 
Heres my network/servers and such. This is only the rack. The cable modem router and main switch are upstairs and I dont feel like taking a picture.

O and my servers are for sale :D
HardForum Link:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=790146

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animeguru said:
2. No, just use Cat5, 5e or 6 to make your cable. The pinouts are in the FAQ, but it is as you said, simply pairing different wires together on one end of the cable. You're basically making the send cable on one end of the cable the receive cable on the other end.

4. You'll want a pair of ratcheting crimpers. Home Depot carries the Ideal brand of crimpers that usually have this feature. Basically, you have to fully depress the crimpers before they can be released ensuring a good crimp every time. Here is a pic of the ones I'm talking about. (the ones in the lower pic).

6. No, we probably won't use all the connections on a patch panel or switch. Hell, most of us don't have a need for gigabit or fiber in our homes either... but it's all about having the most toys. I mean, I don't need a Cisco router for my internet connection... but it looks hella cool on my rack.

7. See above. Again, most people don't need their own mailserver for their two email addresses, but it's still fun to have. Plus, you get a lot of great hands on experience doing it yourself rather than just signing up for a Hotmail account. ;)
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4- whats the difference between a ratcheting and a non-ratcheting crimper?

6- so most of the time its just for show?... isnt it a bit hard on the wallet?

7- how do i make my own mailserver?
 
wayne said:
i might be wrong but does the last 3 switches or hubs on the top look like its tilting and falling on the back part?
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Yes they are tilting because they are not screwed down. Just got done with a lan party and didnt feel like screwing them (ha).
 
xeon711 said:
One ratches... hence click click and the other does not...
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Basically, the ratcheting ones are easier to use since you know when the jacks are crimped compared to the non-ratcheting ones where you have to use more strenght and you're not sure when you're done.
 
dreamnid said:
Basically, the ratcheting ones are easier to use since you know when the jacks are crimped compared to the non-ratcheting ones where you have to use more strenght and you're not sure when you're done.
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ooooh... so the clicking is like a signal that tells u its done?

kinda like those making buttons thing, the pressing thing... where you press and when theres a pop, thats when the button is done, lol
 
well, not exactly... With the one I used, you close the handles together until the crimper automatically releases the handles. It will make several clicking noises during this process. If you use a ratchet for tightening things down - it is similar where it will make several clicking noises (as the ratchet holds its place) until you hit the release lever except like I said, the crimper will automatically engage the release lever when it is fully closed.

It is easier to show than to explain here :-P
 
wayne said:
6- so most of the time its just for show?... isnt it a bit hard on the wallet?
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Yeah it is :) for both questions :p Ofcourse you could run eg. fiber in your house. Ofcourse it's a hell of a lot more expensive but yeah, it's for looks, and for nice pictures in this thread ;)

wayne said:
7- how do i make my own mailserver?
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It isn't exactly done in a couple minutes when you are experienced at all. I suggest reading some of Qmail, that's what i use here. But i'm with a bit more people in my house then just 1 person
 
To make a long story short, I bought the D-Link, thought it got messed up, RMA'd it, then bought the MiLan off Ebay thinking D-Link wouldn't repair it. Well wouldn't you know, D-Link repaired teh switch! So now I have two managed switches, altho the MiLan isn't hooked up coz I can't access the console :/ Waiting for new cables to arrive.

Also got a dual P3 866 file server, which at the end of today will be in a sexah 3u case :D

Now all I need is a cheap and proper rack :( :( :(
 
twan said:
It isn't exactly done in a couple minutes when you are experienced at all. I suggest reading some of Qmail, that's what i use here. But i'm with a bit more people in my house then just 1 person
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well, i have a house with about 10 people living in it because they board with me

so a mailserver would be really nice to have, not necessary, but a good add on to my buncha high tech crap

is Qmail a program?

if i were to learn how to do a fileserver and a mailserver, what would you recommend for me to start reading up on?

thanks
 
versello said:
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To make a long story short, I bought the D-Link, thought it got messed up, RMA'd it, then bought the MiLan off Ebay thinking D-Link wouldn't repair it. Well wouldn't you know, D-Link repaired teh switch! So now I have two managed switches, altho the MiLan isn't hooked up coz I can't access the console :/ Waiting for new cables to arrive.

Also got a dual P3 866 file server, which at the end of today will be in a sexah 3u case :D

Now all I need is a cheap and proper rack :( :( :(
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your pic doesnt work... wanna sell one of your switch?... im in the mood to buy something, lol... but i wanna see pics first
 
ksanders2006 said:
His picture works fine... ;)
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yah, it does now...

but anyways, i was looking for a new switch without that many ports...

but if you're selling it, just curious, how much would you want for it?... again, i am only curious
 
wayne said:
your pic doesnt work... wanna sell one of your switch?... im in the mood to buy something, lol... but i wanna see pics first
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Sorry, my 3u server case came in the mail so I was transporting the guts to the new case, therefore meh web server was down as well.

I would prolly sell the MiLAN for $125. It sports a lot of good features, such as bandwidth shaping (one of the reasons I purchased it). The manual can be had at ftp://ftp.milan.com/pub/switch/manuals/manS3580.pdf for more detailed specs.

I can also post individual pics if you'd like.
 
Server #1. Currently ghetto style with the PSU because it ATX power connection won't reach the back :( Waiting for ATX power extension cables to come in *sigh*

Second server is being built.
 
wayne said:
yah, it does now...

but anyways, i was looking for a new switch without that many ports...

but if you're selling it, just curious, how much would you want for it?... again, i am only curious
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check out newegg.com
 
Just a taste of my two duallies comming soon:

Specs are (approx):

Tyan S2466 motherboard
AMD MP 2400+ (one is an MP2400 and the other is an MP1800)
Copper CPU Coolers (LOUD)
4GB ATP ECC DDR PC2100 Memory
4 x 9.1GB 15K U320 SCSI Hard Drives
Raid 5
3Com Gigabit Copper NIC
52X CDRom
Vantec Alluminuim PSU

That should give you the basic idea :)

Pics:
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Oh and my 1u server which is just finished:

DFI Matx motherboard
AMD XP1600
Skiving Copper 1U Blower heatsink
512MB PC3200 memory DDR
40GB WD 8MB 7200RPM Hard Drvie
1U Short depth case front mountable

Pics:
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And progress on the rack:

Pics:
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KoZLop said:
Ockie0107 how you like your edimax switch?
I have the same one. :)
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Works good. I went with that just because of the port count to the dollar. Good deal IMO.
 
versello said:
Server #1. Currently ghetto style with the PSU because it ATX power connection won't reach the back :( Waiting for ATX power extension cables to come in *sigh*

Second server is being built.
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I have the same case versello. You can make an ATX PSU fit by taking out all of the trays in the front left of the case. It looks like you're not using them. I duct-taped my PSU to the opening that is left and it works great.
 
versello said:
Managed switches cost $300+ on newegg.
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yah, i checked newegg already, thanks for the tip

whats a managed switch?... i dont think i really need something that good or whatever it is... but i want like a 1u switch that is cheap and also like a 2u for a server

looking at all these pictures is like inspiring me and giving me motivation to start my own servers and whatnot... heheheh, thanks guys

another thing, i still wanna learn about making my own mailserver and filesharing servers... but im a noob at it and i dont know where to start... i googled mailserver how-to and it gave me a buncha tutorials that were REALLY confusing which used terms and softwares i didnt know of... what do you guys recommend for me to start from as a noob... i never really took an interest into programming/networking before, i was always into hardware and modding... so yes, i would appreciate if i can have some tips on where to begin

thanks
 
wayne said:
yah, i checked newegg already, thanks for the tip

whats a managed switch?... i dont think i really need something that good or whatever it is... but i want like a 1u switch that is cheap and also like a 2u for a server

looking at all these pictures is like inspiring me and giving me motivation to start my own servers and whatnot... heheheh, thanks guys

another thing, i still wanna learn about making my own mailserver and filesharing servers... but im a noob at it and i dont know where to start... i googled mailserver how-to and it gave me a buncha tutorials that were REALLY confusing which used terms and softwares i didnt know of... what do you guys recommend for me to start from as a noob... i never really took an interest into programming/networking before, i was always into hardware and modding... so yes, i would appreciate if i can have some tips on where to begin

thanks
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A managed switch basically gives you more control over the network and has advanced features such as SNMP, VLAN's, trunking, spanning tree, etc. All stuff you prob don't need right now if you are starting out. They are also manageable via CLI(console) or webui.

As far as filesharing, do you want to share files over your lan, internet, both, etc?

Mail servers - there are some freeware windows apps that would get you started.
http://www.snapfiles.com/freeware/server/fwmailserver.html

Otherwise you can always go with MS Exchange or some Linux flavor.

Good place for cheap rackmount cases.
http://www.plinkusa.net

Hope that helps!
 
nomar said:
I have the same case versello. You can make an ATX PSU fit by taking out all of the trays in the front left of the case. It looks like you're not using them. I duct-taped my PSU to the opening that is left and it works great.
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The front left or the front right? By default the PSU mounts in the front left, then I gotta snake the cable all the way to the right, then back to the mobo (my mobo's ATX power connection is all the way in the back). Duct-taping it on the front-right side of the case might work tho.
 
Ockie0107 said:
Just a taste of my two duallies comming soon:

Specs are (approx):

Tyan S2466 motherboard
AMD MP 2400+ (one is an MP2400 and the other is an MP1800)
Copper CPU Coolers (LOUD)
4GB ATP ECC DDR PC2100 Memory
4 x 9.1GB 15K U320 SCSI Hard Drives
Raid 5
3Com Gigabit Copper NIC
52X CDRom
Vantec Alluminuim PSU

That should give you the basic idea :)

Pics:
http://www.zombiesworld.com/Dsc02154.jpg



Oh and my 1u server which is just finished:

DFI Matx motherboard
AMD XP1600
Skiving Copper 1U Blower heatsink
512MB PC3200 memory DDR
40GB WD 8MB 7200RPM Hard Drvie
1U Short depth case front mountable

Pics:
http://www.zombiesworld.com/Dsc02155.jpg


And progress on the rack:

Pics:
http://www.zombiesworld.com/Dsc02156.jpg
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Is that rack bolted to the floor or connected to the wall somehow? Seems like some heavy stuff to be in a 2 post rack.
 
Cactus Jack said:
Is that rack bolted to the floor or connected to the wall somehow? Seems like some heavy stuff to be in a 2 post rack.
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It is bolted down into concrete. The rack can handle 1000lbs if balanced properly.
 
mogman42 said:
A managed switch basically gives you more control over the network and has advanced features such as SNMP, VLAN's, trunking, spanning tree, etc. All stuff you prob don't need right now if you are starting out. They are also manageable via CLI(console) or webui.

As far as filesharing, do you want to share files over your lan, internet, both, etc?

Mail servers - there are some freeware windows apps that would get you started.
http://www.snapfiles.com/freeware/server/fwmailserver.html

Otherwise you can always go with MS Exchange or some Linux flavor.

Good place for cheap rackmount cases.
http://www.plinkusa.net

Hope that helps!
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thanks for the help... i m reading on the freeware windows apps and i m gonna read around a lil first then download which one best and try it out, thanks

for filesharing, i would be interested in doing both sharing over a lan and/or also over the internet, how would i go about doing that?

what do you mean by going with MS Exchange?, what exactly is that?

thanks
 
ok, i downloaded MailEnable Standard 1.8

this is quite confusing so bear with me please

what is POP and SMTP?, what does PostOffice mean?

also when i create a mailserver, do i pretty much load this software onto that computer and leave it on 24/7?

im new to mailservers, how did you guys learn this?, meaning the process you went thru... cus everyone probably started at where i am now so i need some sorta guidance

thanks
 
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