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RTX 5080 Super leak?

Hmm. Repeat of 4080 4080 Super?

Criticism that original 4080 was a bad product followed by a 4080 Super that was generally considered a better release.

We just don't get that pull of the initial 4080 and turning it into a 4070ti bit.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
We just don't get that pull of the initial 4080 and turning it into a 4070ti bit.
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And we should expect this trend to continue until Nvidia has any appreciable competition.

Honestly, watching people rage over and over at the best burger place in town for having the most expensive burgers and smaller portions when their competition is just serving up similar burgers and selling them for .99¢ less is just exasperating at this point.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Hmm. Repeat of 4080 4080 Super?
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A bit different, the big point of the 4080s was in part a way to cut msrp down from $1200->$1000 without ever officially cutting price of a product, I do not imagine this will be less than $999.

And it will have 24G of vram @ 32gbps one, for a more significant upgrade than 4080->4080s in that regard.

That could be needed because the 5070s will be 18GB making the 5080 at 16G a bit strange in the line up, this super could be a very clean one this time around (and was maybe the original plan but the yield on 3GB ddr7 was not ready in time)

.8GB 5050
12GB 5060 super
16GB 5060ti (let the 8GB just silently die)
18GB 5070s
24GB 5080

All card a bit faster, but mostly about the ram. The general feeling it should have been the original launch will even been stronger this time around.
 
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Totally not surprised by a "Super" series.

I am skipping the 5000 series. Still holding out for a 4090 deal that statistically isn't going to happen.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
At least this ought to result in one more chip faster than the 4090.
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the 5080 is already using the full die little room to grow, I would not expect to be significantly faster, a little bit faster memory, maybe a little bit clock on a little bit better process and some mini fix, if they push significantly more power they could get something.

But still 10752 core, even if they achieve an impressive ~10% faster for ~12% more power that would still be below the 4090.

The 4080 super was around just ~1% faster than the regular 4080 after all.

The vram upgrade is enough to justify the super series by itself, the 5070super will probably be pushed enough to reach the 9070, has it as the room on the die for it and a direct competitor to justify that push.
 
LukeTbk said:
the 5080 is already using the full die little room to grow, I would not expect to be significantly faster, a little bit faster memory, maybe a little bit clock on a little bit better process and some mini fix, if they push significantly more power they could get something.

But still 10752 core, even if they achieve an impressive ~10% faster for ~12% more power that would still be below the 4090.

The 4080 super was around just ~1% faster than the regular 4080 after all.

The vram upgrade is enough to justify the super series by itself, the 5070super will probably be pushed enough to reach the 9070, has it as the room on the die for it and a direct competitor to justify that push.
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I mean an overclocked 5080 right now is like 5% slower than a 4090. I can see a 5080 super finally catching up to a 4090.

Since its going to be 400w. Yap heavily overclocked GPU and 32Gbps stock? Which you could probably get 3200+ mhz on the core and 34Gpbs on the memory.

It will sell well just because of that.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
At least this ought to result in one more chip faster than the 4090.

It was pretty sad that the whole next gen range launched, and the 4090 was still the second fastest card on the market.
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I wouldn't count on that one quite yet.
Good chance when the 6000 cards launch. The 4090 will be the third fastest card around.
 
I was set on a 5080, but settled on a 9070XT at half the price because it too has 16GB VRAM. (This is on a new build, coming from a 1080Ti) I am happy with its performance, but in Flight Sim 2024 at ultra settings, it does complain about running out of VRAM. WTF!
Let's see what next year brings. I told myself saving that much this year might allow me to spend a little more next year or two.
24GB would be nice on the XX80 tier cards.
 
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aliaskary77 said:
I was set on a 5080, but settled on a 9070XT at half the price because it too has 16GB VRAM. (This is on a new build, coming from a 1080Ti) I am happy with its performance, but in Flight Sim 2024 at ultra settings, it does complain about running out of VRAM. WTF!
Let's see what next year brings. I told myself saving that much this year might allow me to spend a little more next year or two.
24GB would be nice on the XX80 tier cards.
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I don't think you will regret it
 
Gigantopithecus said:
24GB VRAM? Calling it now, $1,600.
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looking more & more likely now

Marees said:

Nvidia RTX 50 Super GPUs are reportedly ready, but stuck in limbo due to excessive GDDR7 pricing — 3GB GDDR7 module costs triple the price of 2GB​

News
By Jowi Morales
Published 20 hours ago
These GPUs will probably be more expensive than ever

The upcoming Super refresh of the Nvidia RTX 50-series GPU is reportedly on hold due to the high cost of 3GB GDDR7 memory chips. A VideoCardz source confirmed that one board partner already has RTX 50 Super GPUs on hand, but Nvidia has allegedly told the company that the products are on hold because of the price of 3GB GDDR7 memory chips.

According to the publication, the cards expected to be released soon include the RTX 5080 Super, RTX 5070 Ti Super, RTX 5070 Super, and RTX 5050 9GB. The first two will each receive 24GB of GDDR7 VRAM with a 256-bit bus width, while the RTX 5070 Super will have 18GB of VRAM with a 192-bit bus width. Unfortunately, these chips cost twice or thrice as much as their 2GB variants, which will likely push the retail price of these cards beyond Nvidia’s envisioned MSRP.


https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...gb-gddr7-module-costs-triple-the-price-of-2gb
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$1600 would make sense if the super get close enough to the 4090, pricing that tier down would not be the current market.
 
LukeTbk said:
$1600 would make sense if the super get close enough to the 4090, pricing that tier down would not be the current market.
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From what I've seen leaked so far, the 70 ti Super and 80 Super would not be receiving any addional cores and would only be receiving additonal memory.

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So absolutely no additional performance over the non-Super cards on these models, making them seem completely pointless to release. Personally I have yet to see VRAM go over 13GB or so on my 5080 at 1440P UW and those were in modern UE5 slop titles besides Doom the Dark ages if you ramp the texture pool slider up to artificially inflate VRAM usage to no IQ or performance benefit.
 
My 5070 Tis have had absolutely no issues driving 4k 120 even in a game like Indiana Jones, with DLSS. Game looks amazing. 24 is nice to have, but considering how stupid prices are right now, is it worth the inevitable cost uptick? This is going to be the shittiest Super refresh in history.
 
Buckle up, boys, this means all the current prices for cards will go up until the RX 10000 or RTX 6000 series.
 
El_Capitan said:
Buckle up, boys, this means all the current prices for cards will go up until the RX 10000 or RTX 6000 series.
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from AMD side they could launch the 9070xt successor next july at 3 configs:
  1. 12gb — $600
  2. 18gb — $800
  3. 24gb — $1000
anything below, the 9070 series & 9060 series will hold fort until lpddr5x/lpddr6 memory prices drop back to the ground
 
Marees said:
from AMD side they could launch the 9070xt successor next july at 3 configs:
  1. 12gb — $600
  2. 18gb — $800
  3. 24gb — $1000
anything below, the 9070 series & 9060 series will hold fort until lpddr5x/lpddr6 memory prices drop back to the ground
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Next July seems so far away, lol.
 
T4rd said:
From what I've seen leaked so far, the 70 ti Super and 80 Super would not be receiving any addional cores and would only be receiving additonal memory.
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5080 being already 100% enabled and the ti super tier needing to keep its distance with the 5080 super... that make sense, just thought so much more powers according to the rumours to not be just pure overclock but seem that it will be it, maybe a bit faster memory to go with it.
 
T4rd said:
From what I've seen leaked so far, the 70 ti Super and 80 Super would not be receiving any addional cores and would only be receiving additonal memory.

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So absolutely no additional performance over the non-Super cards on these models, making them seem completely pointless to release. Personally I have yet to see VRAM go over 13GB or so on my 5080 at 1440P UW and those were in modern UE5 slop titles besides Doom the Dark ages if you ramp the texture pool slider up to artificially inflate VRAM usage to no IQ or performance benefit.
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The only thing remotely worth it would be the 5070 Super, but with current memory prices it wiould probably price itself right out of the market.
 
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