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Thanks. I wanted the ROG Strix Z690 Gaming Wifi D4 but it is not compatible with decent Air Coolers. Second choice was the Tuf Gaming Z690 Plus Wifi D4 but reviews really slammed the audio performance. Did not want Gigabyte due to the Realtek LAN chip so that left the two MSI boards. I ordered the edge last night. It has LED's that I don't need but it is rated 5 amps higher than the Tomahawk. I love Asus but they really missed the mark this year.I've got a couple in the pipeline to be reviewed, but not that one. That doesn't mean I won't ever do it, but it's not going to be anytime soon.
I wouldn't likely have caught the heat sink thing. The fact is, it seems most systems are built with AIO's and I've always reviewed boards with water cooling or with higher end AIO's at the very least. I did notice that the two ASUS boards I have seen did have massive VRM heat sinks, but air cooling issues hadn't dawnd on me. I haven't tested either of those boards though as I am still waiting DDR5 RAM.Thanks. I wanted the ROG Strix Z690 Gaming Wifi D4 but it is not compatible with decent Air Coolers. Second choice was the Tuf Gaming Z690 Plus Wifi D4 but reviews really slammed the audio performance. Did not want Gigabyte due to the Realtek LAN chip so that left the two MSI boards. I ordered the edge last night. It has LED's that I don't need but it is rated 5 amps higher than the Tomahawk. I love Asus but they really missed the mark this year.
The bad audio on the Tuf Gaming could have been a fluke. It was horrible frequency response, crosstalk and buzzing on the mic input. This seems to be more than just the codec. He should have requested a second board to make sure it was not a fluke. Could have used it with a sound card but that's more cost and power draw. Do you think MSI can be as reliable as Asus? I do have a friend with a Threadripper in a Fractal R6 case with a Noctua NH-D15 and it is cooling just fine. Real shame to put all this money into a new system and be stuck using DDR4. ThanksI wouldn't likely have caught the heat sink thing. The fact is, it seems most systems are built with AIO's and I've always reviewed boards with water cooling or with higher end AIO's at the very least. I did notice that the two ASUS boards I have seen did have massive VRM heat sinks, but air cooling issues hadn't dawnd on me. I haven't tested either of those boards though as I am still waiting DDR5 RAM.
Every single time I've experienced audio issues like that, its come down to that specific board being bad. Virtually ALL of these motherboards use the exact same design for their audio implementation. The CODEC chosen varies slightly and on the high end they may also include an ESS Sabre DAC or something for specific outputs but generally, they all use one of two or three Realtek CODECs.The bad audio on the Tuf Gaming could have been a fluke. It was horrible frequency response, crosstalk and buzzing on the mic input. This seems to be more than just the codec. He should have requested a second board to make sure it was not a fluke. Could have used it with a sound card but that's more cost and power draw. Do you think MSI can be as reliable as Asus? I do have a friend with a Threadripper in a Fractal R6 case with a Noctua NH-D15 and it is cooling just fine. Real shame to put all this money into a new system and be stuck using DDR4. Thanks
Do you think MSI can be as reliable as Asus?
Look on youtube. There's a few motherboard comparison videos in which they are tested and feature benchmarks. I don't recall the Edge being included but I know the Tomahawk is in the bunch on some videos. I think it's somewhat similar (maybe less features; cheaper).Has anyone seen, or have, a review for the MSI Z690 Edge Wifi DDR4 ?
Almost everything on the net is just board summary and description.