Intel Teases Threadripper Challenger and 5GHz 6-Core at Computex

Still not as good as my 6800k :p
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sirmonkey1985 said:
Hey guys look at our fancy new 28 core 5Ghz processor.. it's going to kick threadrippers ass, as long as you only run single threaded applications on this 6k dollar processor.. they couldn't even get 3Ghz out of the 18 core processor, there's no way in hell they're getting 5Ghz out of a 28 core processor. i'd be surprised if they can even hit 5Ghz on a single thread.
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That will be 5Ghz with a single core in use, 4Ghz with 6 cores, 3Ghz with 14 cores, and 2.4 Ghz with all cores in use.
 
SCSI-Terminator said:
Probably just 14 cores with hyper threading. Just sayin.
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sirmonkey1985 said:
Hey guys look at our fancy new 28 core 5Ghz processor.. it's going to kick threadrippers ass, as long as you only run single threaded applications on this 6k dollar processor.. they couldn't even get 3Ghz out of the 18 core processor, there's no way in hell they're getting 5Ghz out of a 28 core processor. i'd be surprised if they can even hit 5Ghz on a single thread.
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Are both of you sure?

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nutzo said:
That will be 5Ghz with a single core in use, 4Ghz with 6 cores, 3Ghz with 14 cores, and 2.4 Ghz with all cores in use.
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Base clock seems to be 2.7GHz. All core turbo could be 3.2--3.4GHz.
 
I like the idea of a 5ghz hexacore.

I want to add cores, I just don't want to do it at the expense of the performance of each core.
 
heatlesssun said:
If this this really can sustain 5 Ghz across 28C/56T on air and isn't crazy expensive, $2k max, it should be a hit in HEDT space. Also would be nice for it to be fully patched against Meltdown/Spectre.
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If it can do all that I am going to buy it just because. I have zero need for that high of a core count. But it would be nice to have for sure! I already dabbled with Threadripper in the past and I was able to load the cores but not with enough % of my general usage scenarios to justify ownership but 28 cores is just MOAR CORES and madness and it would be fun to play with.
 
tangoseal said:
If it can do all that I am going to buy it just because. I have zero need for that high of a core count. But it would be nice to have for sure! I already dabbled with Threadripper in the past and I was able to load the cores but not with enough % of my general usage scenarios to justify ownership but 28 cores is just MOAR CORES and madness and it would be fun to play with.
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I don't know man. $2k is nuts.

Heck, when I spent $600 on my 3930k (+ $400 for the motherboard) back in 2011 I thought that was nuts.

That being said, my baseline is still during the Pentium 3 / Athlon wars, when the fastest desktop CPU money could buy cost you about $200-$300.


This CPU price inflation has been crazy. Granted, they generally last longer these days, but that's not because the CPU's are any better, it's just because the market is moving slower.

If - in 2001 - you told me that in 2018 I'd still be using the same CPU in my main desktop I bought in 2011, I would have told you you were nuts.

CPU's and motherboards lasted 6 months to a year. GPU's only 6 months.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
I don't know man. $2k is nuts.

Heck, when I spent $600 on my 3930k (+ $400 for the motherboard) back in 2011 I thought that was nuts.

That being said, my baseline is still during the Pentium 3 / Athlon wars, when the fastest desktop CPU money could buy cost you about $200-$300.


This CPU price inflation has been crazy. Granted, they generally last longer these days, but that's not because the CPU's are any better, it's just because the market is moving slower.

If - in 2001 - you told me that in 2018 I'd still be using the same CPU in my main desktop I bought in 2011, I would have told you you were nuts.

CPU's and motherboards lasted 6 months to a year. GPU's only 6 months.
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Yeah but these maintain resale value quite nicely in the medium term. Well see ... prices are probably going to be $5k for the chip and 1K for the board in all honesty. And they can keep that shit.
 
Are we sure about the $2k or $6k mentioned in the thread.

I ask because the existing fast 28 core part is literally $10,000. Sure that supports dual CPU unlike this part but still.

It'd be great if so, I've been waiting for a decent epyc workstation board but no luck so far.
 
Iratus said:
Are we sure about the $2k or $6k mentioned in the thread.
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I have no idea. Just my thought that $2k would be about the max this could cost before price become a huge problem. Maybe this this will be way more, maybe the performance level will allow that. But I don't see how a $10k part even for this market would be anything but a joke.
 
Intel waving a paper-dick around like this probably means their corporate agents have reported a 16< core AMD HEDT chip. I'm much more interested in what AMD has planned as they will be half the price at most.
 
KazeoHin said:
Intel waving a paper-dick around like this probably means their corporate agents have reported a 16< core AMD HEDT chip. I'm much more interested in what AMD has planned as they will be half the price at most.
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If AMD did the same thing as Intel here with the (hilariously big) 3647 and made threadripper 2 epyc but mainstream and upped the clock speed a bit, I'd be all over it.

My dream would be a 32 core, steady 4ghz+, 256gb machine but not Toyota camry money. I'll admit my use case (point cloud rendering and photogrammatry) is a bit of an edge case but feck it takes some grunt
 
Master_shake_ said:
I'm sure the price will sink this CPU.

Intel will price it like they're still in a one horse race.
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they still are, contrary to some folks beliefs. The good though, from AMD showing at least some initiative lately, is now that Intel can go to the closet and bust out some of their tech that they probably have just had waiting around while they were sitting lonely unchallenged.
 
At least when Nvidia *Coasts, they have the next gen in pocket. Intel just fell asleep... or even distracted at money sucking side adventures.like the mobile market.
 
SomeoneElse said:
But is Meltdown/Spectre fixed for these chips? if no its a hard pass for me, I already have one of those things in my PC until they fix that ill wait or go with AMD.
Funny how all of the sudden you are getting a massive jump in (on paper) performance in the next iteration of chips when they took a beating for the last few months with competition and flaws marring their bottom line.
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Im quite curios what are you doing on your computer that Spectre meltdown has an effect on?.
 
SvenBent said:
Im quite curios what are you doing on your computer that Spectre meltdown has an effect on?.
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Everyone who has a Intel chip is effected by this vulnerability. Its a security issue that has the potential to become something much bigger. I'm not running a server or anything but it still has the security flaw. I for one like to know that they stuff I buy doesn't have hardware flaws built in that are not fixable without replacement.
I'm not saying have been effected by anything right now but given time something will come down the pipe. I'd rather not be in possession of the flawed hardware when it does is all I'm saying.
 
SomeoneElse said:
Everyone who has a Intel chip is effected by this vulnerability. Its a security issue that has the potential to become something much bigger. I'm not running a server or anything but it still has the security flaw. I for one like to know that they stuff I buy doesn't have hardware flaws built in that are not fixable without replacement.
I'm not saying have been effected by anything right now but given time something will come down the pipe. I'd rather not be in possession of the flawed hardware when it does is all I'm saying.
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You did not answer my question.
how does the vsecuriy risc impose a threat on you.
It sounds to me you don;t really know what is about because from what you are telling me it sounds like you are complainging about a lock not beeing locked correclty in a door in a wall you havent even built.

Do you understand the basis of these flaws?
 
4saken said:
they still are, contrary to some folks beliefs. The good though, from AMD showing at least some initiative lately, is now that Intel can go to the closet and bust out some of their tech that they probably have just had waiting around while they were sitting lonely unchallenged.
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after today's reveal from amd that's not so true.
 
You miss my point of potential. right now its a big security risk, that can develop into a serious threat.
The flaw isn't limited to RISC, so i'm not sure what you mean here.
Its the sheer creativity of hackers that makes it a serious issue because having a door with no lock, even if its within the compound, makes it a target. Inside the door houses the most import part of the compound. Just because it mainly effects VMs and servers doesn't mean that can't change down the road. The problem is the "lock" doesn't even exist. That is all I was saying. AND there is nothing we (the consumers) can do about it.
Which is why I have no confidence in these "new chips" that have the same design architecture. Until its redesigned with that flaw fixed, I'll stay away.


SvenBent said:
You did not answer my question.
how does the vsecuriy risc impose a threat on you.
It sounds to me you don;t really know what is about because from what you are telling me it sounds like you are complainging about a lock not beeing locked correclty in a door in a wall you havent even built.

Do you understand the basis of these flaws?
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SomeoneElse said:
You miss my point of potential. right now its a big security risk, that can develop into a serious threat.
The flaw isn't limited to RISC, so i'm not sure what you mean her .. blah blah.
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Yet still you cant seem to really answer the question.
as explained before you are Complaining about a bad lock on a door in a wall you havent built.
Whatevet this is fix or not for you avreage typical usage of a compute is tottaly a none issue because whaterver cna be obtained by this flaw cna already be obtainened on your system.
you seem to be more driving by meida hysterie than eactually knowing how these flaws works.

Unless you are running some VM's on your system.. its doesn't matter, as you already given full access to the data to any running process on your system.
 
4saken said:
they still are, contrary to some folks beliefs. The good though, from AMD showing at least some initiative lately, is now that Intel can go to the closet and bust out some of their tech that they probably have just had waiting around while they were sitting lonely unchallenged.
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I don't know man... This 'demo' and the faked 10nm chips is showing a company in more than a little trouble. Also, i don't think in the history of ever we had a company pull tech from a closet ready to rock and roll at a moment's notice. If i was an investor i would be worried. Also I insist Intel has some entrenched, deeply rooted issues, i think they are labor / morale issues specifically... Maybe an ex-Intel or non-ex Intel employee can say something?
 
SvenBent said:
Yet still you cant seem to really answer the question.
as explained before you are Complaining about a bad lock on a door in a wall you havent built.
Whatevet this is fix or not for you avreage typical usage of a compute is tottaly a none issue because whaterver cna be obtained by this flaw cna already be obtainened on your system.
you seem to be more driving by meida hysterie than eactually knowing how these flaws works.

Unless you are running some VM's on your system.. its doesn't matter, as you already given full access to the data to any running process on your system.
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So you get it then? Its already there, i'm not running anything right now, ( I removed the VMs I had built for labs) but that's and never was the point.....you skipping the fact that RIGHT now its only limited to these things.....you act as if it CANNOT happen to anything else. You have to think like a hacker and realize any exposed vulnerability makes it a target, and you underestimate the creativity of someone who really wants to do something to either get monetary reward or just cause damage just because.
 
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