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There is no such thing as the cloud, it's just someone else' PC
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There is no such thing as the cloud, it's just someone else' PC
I hope those companies knows how to encrypt their data, because it only takes 1 password leak for all those trade/dirty little secrets to come out of the public.
The company I work for at least appreciates encryption, and AFAIK they have not even remotely considered cloud as backup because of trade secret considerations.
And one of the ITs puts it, if you can't see where the data is being store, you can't know what is happening to the data.
Social engineering is the easiest way of getting peoples data. Encryption doesn't help there.
Completely NOT cost effective for us.
We are a Microsoft developer, and they give us enough production licenses to run the business.
Saves us 10's of thousands in software costs, and is why we are almost completely a Microsoft shop.
Besides, we are constantly copying 60GB VM's (demos) across the network, something that is slow enough over a switched local GB connection. Even a 1GB internet connection would be too slow since it's shared.
Besides, the 60TB of data I support would be expensive to host, and trying to back it up to the Cloud would take over a week with a 1Gb connection
I still don't and probably never will understand what's the appeal of the cloud.
Storing your active files on a cloud is baffling to me. It doesn't matter that it is the 21st century, internet outages and service crippling ddos attacks are commonplace. Storing your files needed for day to day business on a cloud is just well playing with fire.
Putting two layers of uncertainty between yourself and your data is crazy. You're not just at the mercy of your internet provider but also the cloud provider when you need access.
The only use I can think for it is as a lazy way of implementing off-site backup for non-confidential non-critical data.
professional or semi professional is meaningless when you can do nothing but sit around and wait for someone else to do something. Because that's what happens when you outsource IT. If something goes wrong, you can't start fixing the problem right away.Its about moving what is often a semi professional setup at best into the professional category with much higher availability for services besides the cost part.
VPN was available for a long time. It's not like only now can you access your data remotely thanks to the cloud. How safe is your data really on the cloud? What are the chances that someone attacks a large cloud provider? And what are the chances that someone attacks an individual small business?And people getting more and more disconnected anyway from the corporate network. mails on phones, working remote one way or the other. The concept of people having to sit every day in an office is also eroding fast.
That's kind of irrelevant. You don't want to run a proper cloud service you just want your data safe and readily available.I dont think people really understand how expensive and complex it is to run a proper service.
professional or semi professional is meaningless when you can do nothing but sit around and wait for someone else to do something. Because that's what happens when you outsource IT. If something goes wrong, you can't start fixing the problem right away.
VPN was available for a long time. It's not like only now can you access your data remotely thanks to the cloud. How safe is your data really on the cloud? What are the chances that someone attacks a large cloud provider? And what are the chances that someone attacks an individual small business?
That's kind of irrelevant. You don't want to run a proper cloud service you just want your data safe and readily available.
No matter how I look at it cloud seems to be an unnecessary overkill unless you run a web service that is accessed by at least tens of thousands of clients. Because creating a service that is stable under high load is really expensive and complex. But most businesses don't need that kind of service.
The cloud offers the best of everything: Cost
Its often not outsourced at all. Its simply a question about server location and service location.
Its not just VPN, its also Outlook Anywhere and so forth. The dangers for a small business is much greater because they dont have neither the manpower, the monitoring or the expertise.
Its certainly nor irrelevant and I can guarantee you businesses need this. The days of some amateurish setup because it was the limit of some random IT person is over.
The cloud offers the best of everything: Cost, availability and flexibility.
Yes, you might save a few bucks for now, but once they get your hooks into you, and your org becomes fully dependent, it will all reach critical mass, then they can justify whatever prices they want to charge... until a mass outage strikes then the pendulum will swing the other way.
I agree with the editorial with one exception, that being offsite backup for home servers. I have a lot of data, it's stored on a reasonably secure and specced machine (proper ZFS config, proper power backup etc) but an automatic off-site backup to an encrypted pool is convenient and sensible to me. But to have a cloud as the first stop? No way for my own data, and a business is insane to do it.
What is interesting to me is Office 365. My work is transitioning to it, and it looks like the programs (IM, collaboration, word etc) will default to cloud storage and make local storage inconvenient. Interestingly, our IT department has not issued a single policy update for using those services. Source code and proprietary documents unencrypted up in that Microsoft cloud? No problem, apparently.
Most of the idiots running these companies are like "I can get rid of all my expensive IT people and save money".
Then their network connection goes down, or their cloud provider suffers an outage...
"But I'm all important! I need my data NOW! What do you mean none of the backup images work?"
Or you get bitchy clients who don't see to understand remote operation and want "the cloud" to all reside on their laptop...locally.
"I logged into my remote session. How do I copy all my files over? What? Days you say? It's only 500GB of data!"
And we've TRIED explaining things to these people. In excruciating detail.
They still think we're talking out our ass until they try it for themselves and come running back to on-premises.
My knowledge about it comes from demos given by IT staff, trying to get us to like it. Which, even with decent IT staff, is a difficult thing to get right. I'm glad you pointed this out and it makes me breathe a little easier. If it's good enough for HIPAA it probably is good enough for us Thanks!!Enterprise 365 one drive is WAY different than commodity one drive. It is encrypted at rest and encrypted in transit. And implements perfect forward secrecy through it's clients and web access. We went into this with lawyers and the spanish inquisition because we deal with HIPAA regulations. The only non-standard thing we had to do was get them to sign an addendum to the contract that our data would only be hosted within the US.
Also, unless your guys are configuring something funky, unless using the web based apps, they don't default to using cloud storage and certainly don't make local storage inconvenient.
I'm certain that does occur. There are still valid reasons to make the move as I outlined above. Probably one of the things even the informed technical people overlook though is the cultural shift needed to not have the place collapse into chaos. The cloud services are almost never offline, they are however almost guaranteed to not be working for someone at all times if your organization is large enough.
Personally, I feel like moving your organizations key data and IT infrastructure to an external system you don't fully control and thus can't (or at least shouldn't) trust is a blunder of epic proportions, regardless of how much money can be saved. "The Cloud" is arguably one of the worst ideas in tech of the last decade, and it is sad to see so many organizations overly eager to embrace it. After all, there is no "cloud". It's just someone else's computer. Just like how many organizations who outsourced their IT and support to low cost countries have had a change of heart and are bringing it back home due to unexpected complications and costs, I expect the same will happen when it comes to "the cloud" in the not too distant future.eople just have to learn the hard way.
If you don't own the server then it is outsourced. No need to spin it any other way. As soon as you buy a service instead of hardware to run your own service you're outsourcing.Its often not outsourced at all. Its simply a question about server location and service location.
If you want full cloud service then it will cost much more than the manpower needed to keep your own systems working. Our IT guy works less than 1 hours / week. that's how much it needs to function.Its not just VPN, its also Outlook Anywhere and so forth. The dangers for a small business is much greater because they dont have neither the manpower, the monitoring or the expertise.
Speaking based on some personal bad experience I presume? I've had experiences where one "guru" set up the systems for a company then vanished, and we ended up picking up the pieces when the system broke down. But that's the other end of the spectrum. There are steps between linux wiz kid, and a complex all out cloud service.Its certainly nor irrelevant and I can guarantee you businesses need this. The days of some amateurish setup because it was the limit of some random IT person is over.
The cloud offers the best of everything: Cost, availability and flexibility.
Yes, you might save a few bucks for now, but once they get your hooks into you, and your org becomes fully dependent, it will all reach critical mass, then they can justify whatever prices they want to charge... until a mass outage strikes then the pendulum will swing the other way.