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The Dell S2340M and Acer H236HL use LED PWM Dimming which ruins motion clarity (example), makes some people see flickering and some people suffer from health issues like headaches and/or eyestrain.
The S2415H, HP 23 Envy and S236HL are PWM free and pretty much the same image quality wise but the S236HL suffers from obvious overshoot ghosting. The new HP 27CW, 25XW and 27XW all use higher quality PWM free AH-IPS panels with more vibrant colours and an almost-glossy coating which is marginally less reflective than a glossy coating but equally as vibrant and clear. The above HP's are better than all of the 1080p AH-IPS/PLS panels available aside from the Eizo EV2336, but it's matte. More information and review links.
I checked out those HP monitors and they seem like they have the same coating as my previous monitor (BenQ EW2740L) and I wasn't a fan of it.
Nah, the EW2740L has a ~13% haze light AG coating, the "Low Haze" HP Monitors are 1-3% haze semi-glossy.
Nah, the EW2740L has a ~13% haze light AG coating, the "Low Haze" HP Monitors are 1-3% haze semi-glossy.
So for me, it seems like it's down to the Dell S2415H, Acer S236HL and the Acer H22HQL. I think I read someone say one of the Acers has minimal white glow and great factory calibrated color but I have to find out which one.
The HP 23 Envy is essentially just an Acer S236HL without the obvious overshoot ghosting. The Acer H series also suffer from obvious overshoot ghosting and I don't know if it can be reduced by accessing the service menu like the S236HL (the service menu settings reset when the monitor goes to sleep, is turned off or looses the digital signal), but all of the previously mentioned monitors are inferior compared to the HP 27CW, 25XW and 27XW.
So is the only difference between the 25XW and 25CW being color? Also how is the glow on these? There seems to be very little info on them around the web.
My review isn't finished but there's enough information in it and in this thread to get the gist: they are amazing and are easily the best 1080p IPS/PLS monitors available.
The Samsung AD-PLS panels suffer from far, far more glow and are matte, they simply can not compare to the HP 25-27CW/XW image quality wise, but are very similar pixel response time and delay wise.
phie, in what ways do you find the samsung superior?
I recently purchased the HP 27CW for work and am quite happy with it. It has the few minor design flaws that NCX mentions (no height adjust, no vesa mount, and a stupid black "non-bezel") but nothing I didn't know about going in or that wasn't present in the other options.
I'm not sure that you're accurate in saying that one is 'sharper' or has 'more colors' if they are both 8 bit 1080p 27in panels. I'll take the statement about 'stronger' colors to mean that the Samsung is more saturated, which can lead to the perception of something looking better, despite being less accurate.
Thanks for the response, though. I'm glad that you found a display that you're happy with.
The Samsung has stronger and more colors, it is sharper and I see no difference in regards to the glossy panel.]
It's clear that the Samsung suffers from a red tint and black crush (the high gamma makes colours look darker and more vibrant in some cases) which you are mistaking for 'quality'.
I'm not sure that you're accurate in saying that one is 'sharper' or has 'more colors' if they are both 8 bit 1080p 27in panels. I'll take the statement about 'stronger' colors to mean that the Samsung is more saturated, which can lead to the perception of something looking better, despite being less accurate.
Thanks for the response, though. I'm glad that you found a display that you're happy with.
Sorry, I don't know how to describe this. "More saturated"? Maybe. Fact is that I see a big difference between the two monitors (both calibrated….
Maybe this is bad example to compare against but most "audiophiles" will swear that when buying a headphone amp you have to have something that is completely flat and neutral so no "coloring" of your sound that way you are listening to the music the way it was originally recorded. However there are tons of people who actually enjoy tube amps which purposely distort and color the sound signature but they find it to be a more enjoyable experience. When it comes to monitors maybe we can sorta say the same thing in that some people just really enjoy inaccurate, oversaturated colors. Can we really claim that 100% accurate colors will give a more enjoyable experience and is the one and only right way to use a monitor? Perhaps some people will find that more accurate colors just looks duller or less life like. I personally think that color accuracy really matters if you're into photography or video editing but otherwise for gaming and such as long as you find the colors to look great or "pop" and are happy with what you are seeing then that's good enough.
In most cases, inaccurate colors just look outright bad. Something like 2.4 gamma with black crush and 7500k color temp paired with too much gamut would be just painful to look at.
People who like inaccurate colors simple don't know any better and are used to the terrible picture.
In most cases, inaccurate colors just look outright bad. Something like 2.4 gamma with black crush and 7500k color temp paired with too much gamut would be just painful to look at.
People who like inaccurate colors simple don't know any better and are used to the terrible picture.
I would like to understand this. Can you explain me please how can I appreciate the HP over the Samsung? It is a serious, maybe strange question.
Hi NCX, do you have any idea about the quality of LG 24MP77HM?
It's a generic matte IPS panel, most of which are pretty much the same, and inferior compared to the HP 25-27 CW and XW. If you want a cheap matte IPS try to get a Dell P2x14 (23 or 24") since they come with a height adjustable stand and a nice matte grey bezel which increases the perceived black depth.