Windows 10: Your thoughts so far?

ManofGod said:
With the rapid release schedule of Windows 10 major updates, I doubt Virtualbox will ever truly support Windows 10 correctly. VMWare Player 7 is not having any issues so far, however. Oh, and virtualbox chokes when using an RDP connection into a machine with Virtualbox running.
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Did you get a chance to compare Vmware player 7 to player 12 on w10?
 
ManofGod said:
No but that is only because I am using the free version of VMWare Player on my personal workstation and home computers.
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VMware player 12 has a free version... I installed it last night. It hasn't crashed in the short time I played with it.
 
D4rkn3ss said:
it boggles my mind on how people is so fucking cheap, put the word "free" on something and they could put up with anything, geez.



lol "SultanGris" hows that Utanc bish treating you brah, you know thats a trap dont you? :D
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whats utanc bish? never heard of that, neither has google, lol! Treating me awesome so far, best browser ive ever used.
 
SultanGris said:
whats utanc bish? never heard of that, neither has google, lol! Treating me awesome so far, best browser ive ever used.
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haha sorry, i thought your user name was the combination of Soltan Gris with Sultan Bey, its the name of a villain from a book, well ten books actually :p and Utanc.. well i aint spoiling shit yo! yeah i've been using chrome since xp days :D
 
D4rkn3ss said:
haha sorry, i thought your user name was the combination of Soltan Gris with Sultan Bey, its the name of a villain from a book, well ten books actually :p and Utanc.. well i aint spoiling shit yo! yeah i've been using chrome since xp days :D
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haha, oh hot damn it actually is, but i havent read them for about 10+ years and I forgot about her, ah good times! Nice catch, youre like the first person in the history of the internet to every actually figure that out, its been my name since the 90s, lol!
 
Tiberian said:
Can't stand it at all, honestly. Haven't been able to find one reason to replace Windows 7 on my hardware with Windows 10, not one single reason so far - not even the fact that it's free - and I've been part of the Insider program since day one testing all the builds provided to gain knowledge on how it's all pooched aka working. I fully expect to get a ton of support calls today from clients of mine as this rollout kicks into high gear so, even though I cannot tolerate Windows 10 at all for myself, it's sure going to give me a decent boost in income for the next few weeks.

Well, there ya go I suppose - the one good thing about Windows 10: techs and support people like myself are going to make a fortune in support calls in the immediate future. :D
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ditto to the above. I don't see any difference. It's the same old song, microsoft moves things around to alter the cosmetic side of windows

To make matter worse, I have seen PC that win 10 has no drivers and have to moved back to win 7.

Does those "green check mark" works well? Meaning if win 10 scan your sys. prior to install, and give you the green check mark, does that mean it will NOT have any missing driver?

Also, for those who get that free upgrade invite, do you have to download the software on that machine? Supposed I have the Win 10 DVD, and there is a free invite, is there a way to install the DVD and get the code for free instead of wasting time download it?
 
SultanGris said:
haha, oh hot damn it actually is, but i havent read them for about 10+ years and I forgot about her, ah good times! Nice catch, youre like the first person in the history of the internet to every actually figure that out, its been my name since the 90s, lol!
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aha! yes yes i am awesome i know i know.. humble too! :D
 
The fact that any program run on this system can overwrite the bios, the boot record and the system is simply amazing. Congrats Bill.
 
Mak54291 said:
The fact that any program run on this system can overwrite the bios, the boot record and the system is simply amazing. Congrats Bill.
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are you saying that something that isn't a kernel mode driver can do this?
 
Happy Hopping said:
ditto to the above. I don't see any difference. It's the same old song, microsoft moves things around to alter the cosmetic side of windows

To make matter worse, I have seen PC that win 10 has no drivers and have to moved back to win 7.

Does those "green check mark" works well? Meaning if win 10 scan your sys. prior to install, and give you the green check mark, does that mean it will NOT have any missing driver?

Also, for those who get that free upgrade invite, do you have to download the software on that machine? Supposed I have the Win 10 DVD, and there is a free invite, is there a way to install the DVD and get the code for free instead of wasting time download it?
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Just download the media creation tool and create the appropriate installation type on a flash drive. I do that and I also reinstall from that on a machine that has already but upgraded. I installed a new 480GB SSD in my work machine and reinstalled from scratch off a flash drive. Activated automatically.

For drivers, I have had to use a couple of Windows 8.1 or 7 drivers on certain laptops. However, they do work.
 
Mak54291 said:
The fact that any program run on this system can overwrite the bios, the boot record and the system is simply amazing. Congrats Bill.
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Congrats Bill.
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History: Bill Gates stepped down from the CEO position in 2000 and took on the role as Chief Software Architect. He relinquished that role in 2006 (nine years ago).

On another note, I didn't care for Windows 10 much when I started using it in November 2014 - Windows Insider Program. It's grown on my quite a bit. You couldn't get me to put 7 or 8.1 back on my Windows desktops or laptop.
 
ManofGod said:
Just download the media creation tool and create the appropriate installation type on a flash drive. I do that and I also reinstall from that on a machine that has already but upgraded. I installed a new 480GB SSD in my work machine and reinstalled from scratch off a flash drive. Activated automatically.

For drivers, I have had to use a couple of Windows 8.1 or 7 drivers on certain laptops. However, they do work.
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what about the other way around? Say I got an free offer to upgrade to win 10 at work, but no offer at home. Is there a way to copy whatever it is inside the work PC and transfer it to the home PC? Then install win 10 at home ?
 
Happy Hopping said:
what about the other way around? Say I got an free offer to upgrade to win 10 at work, but no offer at home. Is there a way to copy whatever it is inside the work PC and transfer it to the home PC? Then install win 10 at home ?
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I will still do the same thing, just use the media creation tool for the appropriate version that you need. Whether the computer receives the offer or not is not relevant. However, there is no way to transfer those files anyways that I know of.
 
I have a second Windows 10 machine that the GUI is constantly locking up. Right click Taskbar buttons will stop working randomly and I won't be able to open icons on the desktop. If I try to restart Windows Explorer I'll just get a spinning circle until it eventually goes. Trying to narrow down if it's 10 or if it's something else (like a context menu or other background software). It's a light install though.
 
bigdogchris said:
I have a second Windows 10 machine that the GUI is constantly locking up. Right click Taskbar buttons will stop working randomly and I won't be able to open icons on the desktop. If I try to restart Windows Explorer I'll just get a spinning circle until it eventually goes.
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Sounds to me like a GPU driver. What's the hardware?
 
Suddenly 10 won't update. I have updates waiting but they won't download and install, it just sits at 0% for over a hour and it's certainly not my connection.
10 has some really flaky quirks about it.
 
I'm trying to add another user to w10 home. Of course M$ want the user's M$ account id. Choosing "the person I want to add doesn't have an email address" I get a gem: "Something went wrong". W8.2 beta...
 
zorobabel said:
I'm trying to add another user to w10 home. Of course M$ want the user's M$ account id. Choosing "the person I want to add doesn't have an email address" I get a gem: "Something went wrong". W8.2 beta...
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Works fine on mine and I am on the insider preview. Did you try rebooting and also, did you do all that remove bloat stuff going around? Perhaps that broke something?
 
ManofGod said:
Works fine on mine and I am on the insider preview. Did you try rebooting and also, did you do all that remove bloat stuff going around? Perhaps that broke something?
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1.What do you know, it worked today.
The wizard generates traffic to live.com.
2.Now it's not working any more.
3.Pulling the network cable, the wizard works again and skips 2 steps (the M$ account garbage) going straight to creating the local user.

Yes, I did remove some of bloat, still working on it.
 
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zorobabel said:
1.What do you know, it worked today.
The wizard generates traffic to live.com.
2.Now it's not working any more.
3.Pulling the network cable, the wizard works again and skips 2 steps (the M$ account garbage) going straight to creating the local user.

Yes, I did remove some of bloat, still working on it.
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My guess is there is a good chance you broke something. Hope you get it resolved though. Rather strange since I have not had an issue with creating a local account either. It is what I have to do on my work computer when I had to redo it from scratch on a new SSD.
 
I reverted my desktop back to win 7, overall i prefer it to win 10. There was nothing new i want/need in 10 and it seemed to have a few quirks and bugs that were annoying to me, one of which is HDMI audio output. for example if youre watching a video and pause it when you click play again there will be no sound for a few seconds, like the audio stream goes to sleep or something and takes a bit to wake up again, video signal doesnt seem affected and the video/audio is synced when it does play, major PITA for me as i use my pc connected to my TV as my only source of television shows and frequently use the pause feature. win 7 does not have this problem.

I might keep win 10 on my laptop as it is slightly better than win 8, however it seems quite buggy on there too and seems to run much slower than 8 did and I may have to revert that as well. Dont use it often so it depends on how much of an issue it becomes, hopefully they fix some of the issues in future updates.
 
At this point I've been on it for a few months and have been pretty happy.
The mail app is wonky and I still wish I could put modern apps in a folder, but otherwise I'm okay with it.

That said when the OS updates on top of Windows 8 or earlier versions of Windows 10 - it has a habit of causing underlying issues. I've had to revert to earlier images a couple times when the upgrade caused something to majorly screw up.
 
Domingo said:
At this point I've been on it for a few months and have been pretty happy.
The mail app is wonky and I still wish I could put modern apps in a folder, but otherwise I'm okay with it.

That said when the OS updates on top of Windows 8 or earlier versions of Windows 10 - it has a habit of causing underlying issues. I've had to revert to earlier images a couple times when the upgrade caused something to majorly screw up.
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fair point, maybe a clean install would be better. I had issues with info popping up when hovering over a file name with win 10, sometimes it showed and sometimes it wouldnt, very unreliable. Also im an android/chrome user so i have no need/desire to switch to the windows versions for browser/email/whatever and i really hate the new windows 10 apps like movie player, photo viewer, scan manager and whatnot. they seem so much less functional and less user friendly than the versions in windows 7.

Slightly embarrassed to say this but it took me about 10 minutes to find a file i just scanned with win 8 the first time. No file info/address bar is showed in these apps that i could find, no right click open containing folder. It would show me the picture after i scanned it but it wouldnt tell me where it was saved which is highly annoying because i was trying to attach it in an email. Not sure if 10 changed this stuff much from 8 either but the photo/movie viewer sucks in 10, i have a drone i fly around and take lots of pictures/video with and i need to go through them to find the good ones to upload which is pretty hard when the viewer wont tell you the name of the file youre currently viewing when scrolling through the slideshow. maybe user error and i just couldnt find the setting to enable that info, im just more used to using 7 but it seems much better than 10 to me anyway.

Might be different/better if I had a windows phone and actually used those programs/features windows 10 tries to force integrate but as far as i can tell they havent caught up to google for functionality yet and i certainly dont need both of them. May upgrade to 10 again in the future when they work out some of the kinks, but there were just too many little annoying problems that were pissing me off.
 
Generally you can Right click and Open Folder on a file, try that.

Ever since Win 95, best way to install is clean. You don't carry the junk over. Bad registry keys and locations for files and folders. They have been migrating folders to different locations and there is a chance for error there. My Documents and Settings remember? yeah look at the folder structure now

I have been doing unattended installations since 03 and these are things we have learned. I didn't have any problems with any OS since Win 95 cause I learned to clean install. Gather up your install program saving serials and files and even complete folders for some things to a separate location or jump drive if you have one

I've uninstalled pratically all the Metro apps and put mine back on, no problems.
 
actually in win 10 only the system has assess to the uefi and they enctypt it if you install win 10 on it. You can print out the machine code unless you have their hash good luck decrpting. I tried trying to figure how to get my cpu to be legit and finally found that you need their tools and they are not giving them out to partners this time. You have to work for ms to get the hash appernelty but it always means hacking the hive is not possible. you can break the loop between the machine and ms but not the bios uefi sec descriptor. which makes me happy while defcon tries to break it most of them will simply attack vector ms can see in real time lol.
 
Okay so I disabled cortana, I found where her system files are.. can I delete them? I am so tempted to. I noticed in task manager she runs in the background still
 
Maxxpsoft said:
Generally you can Right click and Open Folder on a file, try that.

Ever since Win 95, best way to install is clean. You don't carry the junk over. Bad registry keys and locations for files and folders. They have been migrating folders to different locations and there is a chance for error there. My Documents and Settings remember? yeah look at the folder structure now

I have been doing unattended installations since 03 and these are things we have learned. I didn't have any problems with any OS since Win 95 cause I learned to clean install. Gather up your install program saving serials and files and even complete folders for some things to a separate location or jump drive if you have one

I've uninstalled pratically all the Metro apps and put mine back on, no problems.
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if youre talking to me i was referring to viewing the file info within the photo viewer program itself, in win 7 for example windows photo viewer displays the file name at the top of the window while displaying the photo full screen, windows 10 version of this program does not.

I have say 200+ pictures in a folder and im using the photo viewer to scroll through them instead of closing each one and double clicking to open the next since its far faster and more efficient to go through lots of pics this way and when i find a good one i want to know the name of the file so i can easily locate it in file explorer. very easily accomplished in win 7 where the file name is displayed at the top of the screen, fucking impossible in win 10 where this information isnt available in the program anywhere. In win 7 in the program i can right click the full screen image and get these and other options as well, in win 10 when i right click on the full screen image nothing happens, no options, see what i mean? seems like a step or 10 backwards as far as functionality goes.
 
SultanGris said:
if youre talking to me i was referring to viewing the file info within the photo viewer program itself, in win 7 for example windows photo viewer displays the file name at the top of the window while displaying the photo full screen, windows 10 version of this program does not.

I have say 200+ pictures in a folder and im using the photo viewer to scroll through them instead of closing each one and double clicking to open the next since its far faster and more efficient to go through lots of pics this way and when i find a good one i want to know the name of the file so i can easily locate it in file explorer. very easily accomplished in win 7 where the file name is displayed at the top of the screen, fucking impossible in win 10 where this information isnt available in the program anywhere. In win 7 in the program i can right click the full screen image and get these and other options as well, in win 10 when i right click on the full screen image nothing happens, no options, see what i mean? seems like a step or 10 backwards as far as functionality goes.
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Click on the button with the three dots and select file info. From there, you can scroll through you pictures which shows the file name, location and more. :) Glad to help.
 
Other than some UI glitchiness, and some annoyances due to graphics driver auto-install, Win10 has been pretty nice on my main rig. It's mostly used for gaming / media, and UE4.

The upgrade from 8.1 was smoother than expected considering it has an SLI and SRT setup

I'm impressed with how well old hardware runs in 10, particularly machines that never had support beyond Vista.

I'd like to see them add full-screen start menu toggles for additional displays I don't want to enable taskbar on.


My work PC, HTPC / SVN box, secondary gaming rig, and laptop run Windows 7 and I don't plan to change that anytime soon.
 
ManofGod said:
Click on the button with the three dots and select file info. From there, you can scroll through you pictures which shows the file name, location and more. :) Glad to help.
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fair enough, however it takes up a quarter of the screen and makes the picture smaller so its less than ideal. it also doesnt show complete file details such as gps info on this panel.
 
Benocean said:
Windows 10 may be better than Win 7 or 8, or not. But personally for me the most important question is my privacy. The truth about Windows 10 spying on almost everything you do if constantly discussed in tech blogs on the web, so one can't be 100% sure whether it's true or not. I found Emsisoft blog very helpful, with easy-to-read articles on cyber security and also about Win 10, as I was also wondering about upgrade. I guess everyone cares about privacy (don't tell me you have nothing to hide), so Emsisoft offers the greatest anti-malware and anti-spyware tool I've ever used. And there's a free version.
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most everything spys on you these days, your cell phone, your smart tv, facebook, nearly every piece of software you install, virtually every website you visit is tracking you, theres really no way to avoid it if you use the internet these days.
 
Gotta love that from emnisoft blog
You might say you have nothing to hide, and that the only person who does is clearly breaking the law. If that’s truly the case, why don’t you leave your bank account details in the comments below?
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Trouble is
You might feel safe if your information is with a big company like Microsoft, which undoubtedly has major systems in place to protect your data, but do you really trust any of Microsoft’s ad network customers? A hacker could trace these transactions and conduct a large-scale hack just by finding a single vulnerability in this line of data transfer.
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yep everyday, I've even been hacked medical records really big corporation I work for so I don't trust MS either

MS you can't win against Google they too far entrenched so give it up.
 
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