AMD Radeon R9 Nano Video Card PAPER Launch @ [H]

[DPI]

Okey logic, but what the h*** is wrong with giving SFF some love, its not that there are a lack of other faster high end cards, are there.

Ah and i rember the sweet 4850, passiv cooled, that was the last card i used for modding into SFF cases, it was close enough to the high end

Just becouse there are lot more peoples that like to build in big ugly cases, dosnt meen that SFF dosnt need some love, Nvidia understood it with the SFF970, and i happy that amd have given SFF the best it possibel can.

Edit_ And evry SFF builder know so well that its lot more expensive with SFF, it has always been that, if u want to come close to the performance of a high end big ugly pc.

Setting all the little boy anger aside for a moment, nothing would be wrong with "giving SFF some love" if AMD werent fighting for its life and every quarterly report is a horror show worse than the previous. You do realize what happens to companies that don't pull out of the kind of tailspin that AMD finds themselves in?

Building a Fiji SKU for a niche so infinitesimal that 3 people will buy it is not the big-seller come from behind story they need. Theres a lack of strategy and focus, like they're just swinging wildly now.

The Nano is like a weird hail mary thrown in the wrong direction.

 

[Snus]

Setting all the little boy anger aside for a moment, nothing would be wrong with "giving SFF some love" if AMD werent fighting for its life and every quarterly report is a horror show worse than the previous. You do realize what happens to companies that don't pull out of the kind of tailspin that AMD finds themselves in?

Building a Fiji SKU for a niche so infinitesimal that 3 people will buy it is not the big-seller come from behind story they need. Theres a lack of strategy and focus, like they're just swinging wildly now.

The Nano is like AMD trying to throw a hail mary but it lacks conviction.

Well, sure can agree on most u say, but well u see, GCN, at dx11 at least, does not seem to be good enough to beat maxell, as an arctecture. But they Got The Fury and The Fury x out of fijii, if u look at nvida. u have the 980-980TI-Titan as it top 3, Amd got 390X-Fury-Fury X.

Since they cant Beat the TI, there is realli not room for one more performace card in that lineup, as long as it not faster than the Fury-X, so what do they have going for the Fijii, well its small, so i do think Nano is a result of that they coudnt get more performace out of it, not enough to be the fastest, so luckely for us few SFF builders, there was only one more logical place to try and use the Fijii.

But no, we SFF builders are not many enough to save AMD

Edit_ And well SFF builders are used to the fact that small is expensive, so i guess we dont care abaut price so much, becouse if we think price, then we can aswell just build in big ugly cases as all the others, and well thats what most of them did, after they couldnt build SFF performace. I didnt, i gave up and just use a laptop, wich is SFF-

 

[KickAssCop]

Anyone waiting for nano just wasted their time. People could have gotten a gigabyte or asus 970 itx or whatever it was called and overclocked the crap out of it to get similar performance +/- 5% in September 2014.

A year late, priced like a flagship and will possibly generate heat in the case since I didn't really see a back exhaust.

3rd potential great card launch fail due to pricing imo.

 

[Snus]

Anyone waiting for nano just wasted their time. People could have gotten a gigabyte or asus 970 itx or whatever it was called and overclocked the crap out of it to get similar performance +/- 5% in September 2014.

A year late, priced like a flagship and will possibly generate heat in the case since I didn't really see a back exhaust.

3rd potential great card launch fail due to pricing imo.

Ur probally right, and i guess thats becouse GCN, just cant beat Maxell, at least not at DX11, So what do u do when u cant sell ur product, and dosnt want to sell at a loss, wich is worse than not selling at all. You try and find other usages for ur product, and well i think Nano as it is now, is a result of this, sold cheaper, it probbally is a loss per unit for AMD, business is not to sell as much as possibel, if u pay 200$ for a unit, even thou you can sell a hell of a lot more if u sell it for 199$, well i dont think i should need to do the math or ....

Edit_ But Kickass, u dont know much abaut SFF build do u, most often you have to underclock to keep within acetabel temps, powerlimits , cooling capacity and so on, thats why evrything is expensive, take cpu, you need low powerusage,, even 45w is a lot for SFF cpu, but as far as i can see of the cpu linup as of today, u have to use that 45w xeon chip to round 300$ if u want performance. If u know of any better, i be glad if u told me, wich one.

 

[Rauelius]

Just becouse there are lot more peoples that like to build in big ugly cases, dosnt meen that SFF dosnt need some love, Nvidia understood it with the SFF970, and i happy that amd have given SFF the best it possibel can.

Edit_ And evry SFF builder know so well that its lot more expensive with SFF, it has always been that, if u want to come close to the performance of a high end big ugly pc.-

Well, I so happen to be an SFF builder, and it was not expensive at all. My MediaPC and MainPC run pretty close in most games, and in fact, my main PC cost quite a bit more to put together.

http://imgur.com/a/VskDE

That's my little guy right there, and check out the sig for full specs.

Stop spreading a fallacy!

 

[Snus]

Well, I so happen to be an SFF builder, and it was not expensive at all. My MediaPC and MainPC run neck and neck.

http://imgur.com/a/VskDE

That's my little guy right there, and check out the sig for full specs.

Stop spreading a fallacy!

Nice littel tower that one , its a good hybrid SFF, probally the most perfomace you can get out of that space. If 970 is the fastest card you can get in there, or can u get a 980TI or Fury X in there ?

 

[Rauelius]

Nice littel tower that one , its a good hybrid SFF, probally the most perfomace you can get out of that space. If 970 is the fastest card you can get in there, or can u get a 980TI or Fury X in there ?

It'll fit a 10.5" card, so I believe a reference 980-Ti would fit, and if I went with air-cooling and a 4670S, the Fury-X would have fit too.

 

[Snus]

It'll fit a 10.5" card, so I believe a reference 980-Ti would fit, and if I went with air-cooling and a 4670S, the Fury-X would have fit too.

I think i saw a youtube vid, where they used fury x in it. Tell a bit more abaut the 4670s, oh well i can google it.

Edit: it is 65w, hmm, that would meen 175w+65w to cool, well untill i see the reviews of the nano i still have to wait, becouse the grapic card as one other earlier here on said , should not exceed 150w, cpu well 45w used to acceptabel.

Well you and me have a slight disagrement what SFF is, but i let it be, i touted enough abaut it now ,

 

[Relayer]

The conclusion that it's slower and costs the same? The card wasn't needed to be in hand to figure that out.

More has been said than simply that. Maybe you haven't read all of the posts?

 

[Relayer]

<- Team Price / Performance (Color Agnostic)

Originally, I was going to say if you are about to build a top-end gaming SFF PC - then the Nano may be the way to go but after doing some digging around ...

The Nano is looking to cost $650, the 970 SFF right now is about $300 on Amazon.

If you buy the 970 for your current build for $300, then upgrade to a 1070 for $350 down the road, you will come out ahead (opportunity cost-wise) vs. buying the Nano when it releases shortly for $650 upfront and also having to deal with future uncertainty RE: next gen cards.

The only thing that's unclear for me at the moment is whether DX12 will be as big of a paradigm shift as some are saying.

Let's assume the released benchmarks / specs are true:

Top End SFF cards

Fury Nano 4gb
+Longevity under DX12 performance due to AMD architecture (As is AMD will be favored under native DX12 apps)
+Performance @ 4k for both current / future games
-Cost
-Availability (likely to be a unicorn at launch)
-1st gen card (who knows what could go wrong? Possible thermal issues maybe?)

970 gtx 4gb
+Available now
+Lower cost (you can get 2 generations of x70 gtx cards for price of one Nano)
-Lower performance than Nano all around & 4k (lower but still great - just not as good as the Nano)
-1st gen card - 3.5/4.0 gb (beating dead horse, I know)

In order for your 2 generation theory to work the "1070" will have to be a noticeable upgrade from Nano and the 970 will have to be as good now (talking game play experience). Suppose that the "1070" is only the equal to Nano? Then what you've done is paid $650 and only gotten $300 worth of performance until the "1070" comes out and then you haven't saved anything.

If you have a SFF case that can fit a 980ti and get the blower version which is relatively quiet, in my experience quieter than the Fury X, it will destroy the nano. Then you can OC the 980ti further if you want of course the noise goes up pretty quickly.

If you're using a case that can fit a full card why not get the Fury X or 980ti...

It's really a 970 vs nano conversation.

Well, the available reviews say that the Fury X is appreciably quieter than the reference 980 ti. Also cooler by quite a lot. The 980 ti runs up against it's thermal limit even in ATX cases.

 

[T_A]

AMD Just lost me , with Pascal about a year ahead of us , i just pulled the trigger on a Gigabyte GTX980 OC yesterday , really upset that i have to buy a year old card because there are no alternatives.

(the games i play don`t work well with AMD )

 

[DPI]

Well, the available reviews say that the Fury X is appreciably quieter than the reference 980 ti. Also cooler by quite a lot. The 980 ti runs up against it's thermal limit even in ATX cases.

Hybrid AIO with a radiator is quieter than a reference blower? Stop the presses, a revelation is at hand!

 

[DracoNB]

Hybrid AIO with a radiator is quieter than a reference blower? Stop the presses, a revelation is at hand!

Well they are both $650 so might as well compare the benefits of the Fury X's cooler to the 980 TI no?

 

[Relayer]

If you have a SFF case that can fit a 980ti and get the blower version which is relatively quiet, in my experience quieter than the Fury X, it will destroy the nano. Then you can OC the 980ti further if you want of course the noise goes up pretty quickly.

If you're using a case that can fit a full card why not get the Fury X or 980ti...

It's really a 970 vs nano conversation.

Hybrid AIO with a radiator is quieter than a reference blower? Stop the presses, a revelation is at hand!

Well, not according to the post I quoted. I've quoted it here for you to see what prompted me to reply.

 

[limitedaccess]

The noise comparison is scenario dependent. Typically AIO watercooling will have a low peak noise level for a given thermal load but a higher noise floor (pump, minimal fan speed). You see this play out in measurements (not just with Fury X's implementation) in that they tend to measure lower at load measurements while higher at idle measurements (even more so now that many air implementations are designed to allow complete fan shut off).

In terms of real world implications this actually presents some interesting dilemmas. On one hand you can argue that load conditions are the higher noise impact and as such lower peaks is of greater importance (eg. all idle is quiet enough, only fan noise at load is noticeable). The other side of this would be that low demand situations themselves make background noise more discernible (eg. no game noise or headphones on when web browsing. Headphones/game noise negates fan noise to some extent).

 

[DPI]

Well they are both $650 so might as well compare the benefits of the Fury X's cooler to the 980 TI no?

Sure if you're an insane person that looks at a $650 price point and doesn't give a shit about performance. Then by all means.

 

[Relayer]

The noise comparison is scenario dependent. Typically AIO watercooling will have a low peak noise level for a given thermal load but a higher noise floor (pump, minimal fan speed). You see this play out in measurements (not just with Fury X's implementation) in that they tend to measure lower at load measurements while higher at idle measurements (even more so now that many air implementations are designed to allow complete fan shut off).

In terms of real world implications this actually presents some interesting dilemmas. On one hand you can argue that load conditions are the higher noise impact and as such lower peaks is of greater importance (eg. all idle is quiet enough, only fan noise at load is noticeable). The other side of this would be that low demand situations themselves make background noise more discernible (eg. no game noise or headphones on when web browsing. Headphones/game noise negates fan noise to some extent).

So the couple of db difference at idle makes the 980 ti pronounced as the quieter card, even though it's like 2x as loud under load? So, we have another metric that because the nVidia card is better, it's now the defining metric. lol

Sure if you're an insane person that looks at a $650 price point and doesn't give a shit about performance. Then by all means.

There are lots of ways to measure performance average FPS is simply one. If that's the one that is all important to you and you are willing to split hairs to determine a winner, that's fine. There are others though that might not consider that one metric all important. Maybe they want cooler, or quieter, or latest more forward looking tech, better support for upcoming API's, etc... Someone doesn't have to be insane simply because they don't rank their priorities the same as you do for determining performance.

 

[noko]

Nano to me is rather exciting with a somewhat unexciting price tag. I do not see the 980Ti, FuryX, TitanX as relevant competition. If you are going to put the Nano in a bigger case then it is just stupid to buy one and better off getting a better performing card which maybe cheaper as well.

To review realistically you take the same format or size card and compare. For comparison on performance maybe one or two full size cards are added at that price range - FuryX, 980Ti. If I could fit a 980Ti into the case I was going to build and not worry too much about the added heat/noise then it would be stupid to buy the Nano in the first place. As Kyle said it is a very small Niche market, hopefully it would be reviewed towards that niche market.

Now for the price one could take two 970's (the small ones) and SLI them, once again case size comes into play plus you are now looking at more heat. Two Nano's? To me that is what is needed for 4K gaming unless you like older games or lower settings on newer games. To SLI or CFX, I did not find any miniATX motherboard worthy, meaning bigger cases are needed for a microATX motherboard. A single card Nano gig, one could build a rather small footprint yet a rather powerful gaming setup (this is probably the true Niche that Nano is really worth it).

 

[Relayer]

To review realistically you take the same format or size card and compare. For comparison on performance maybe one or two full size cards are added at that price range - FuryX, 980Ti. If I could fit a 980Ti into the case I was going to build and not worry too much about the added heat/noise then it would be stupid to buy the Nano in the first place. As Kyle said it is a very small Niche market, hopefully it would be reviewed towards that niche market..

Haven't you been reading? The review is already written. We're just waiting for the card to fill in the charts and graphs.

 

[Deathroned]

wow so much amd bashing its both sad and hillarious especially from kyle and brent.

 

[Rauelius]

wow so much amd bashing its both sad and hillarious especially from kyle and brent.

It's AMD's pricing that's at fault. What's the point of competition if the weaker of the two is living in some fantasy land where they are the only maker of graphics cards and refuse to price their products competitively.

Someone with $650 to spend can look at the GTX980Ti or Fury-X or R9-Nano. Well, the Fury-X and Nano are not attractive in this price-range because they are currently MUCH slower than the GTX980-Ti, and considering the GTX980-Ti can be found brand new for $610, and includes MGSV ($60 value), which mean If I wanted to go with AMD, I would be getting a slower, hotter, more expensive card, that doesn't come with a game.

Then we look at the $550 range where the Fury sits. Well, for $60 more one could get the much faster GTX980-Ti, which comes with MGSV, which in reality means that we have a $550 GTX980-Ti vs a $550 Fury....the Fury is not competing here.

The 390x is actually well priced against the GTX980. Not really competitive as the $70 extra you'd spend getting the GTX980 over the 390x is noticable. To be actually competitive, AMD should have priced it between $380-$400.

The 390 is really AMD's only competitive part. I regularly see it go for as low as $310, it handsomely outclasses the GTX970. This card maybe why were are seeing better prices on the GTX970, and why it's AMD's only real competitive product at this time.

The problem is that the Fury-X is a Halo card, and being such how it stacks against it's prime competitor is what is ultimately reflected upon the entire Radeon range to the public. If the Fury-X is seen as too Expensive, Slow and Hot, it's public perception is going to reflect upon the entire Radeon brand, meaning that someone looking for a $330 graphics card will look toward the GTX970 over the R9-390 because the GTX980-Ti is seen as a better value than the Fury-X, so naturally the GTX970 is better than the R9-390.

It's not like AMD can fix this now. This is a perception issue that anyone with an inkling of business knowledge should have known off the bat. Even IF AMD could only produce 100 Fury-X and 300 Fury cards a month, it would have been better for the brand to sell them at $550 and $450 respectively, get better press, and have the benefits trickle down to the rest of your range.

$500+ cards make a very small percentage of the GPU market place. They are there as a beacon to the brand, to instill confidence in the lower-end range. If the top of the line card is an overpriced, underperforming joke, it's reflected upon the entire line-up regardless of it being true or not.

Pricing the Fury-X, Nano and Fury at $650 and $550 in the face of much more capable competition is not the act of a company actually competing, it's the act of a company trying to keep as many pennies as possible before they get bought out or fold.

 

[FrgMstr]

wow so much amd bashing its both sad and hillarious especially from kyle and brent.

hillarious [sic] part is agreed on.

 

[SamiiRoss]

nvidia fan boys everywhere....

back in 2013 i paid $350 for a 7850 mini, then i paid $329 for 760mini and $359 for 970 mini.

and yes im going to pay $650 for Fury Nano.

im a mini itx enthusiast, this card is not for everyone. most of you aren't real or potential buyers, just a bunch of fanboys complaining about a card that they arent going to buy...

No HDMI 2.0? who cares... are you guys really playing on TV with that Imput lag? hahaha really?

Hello! is almost 2016... There are 42" Freesync monitors...and DX12 games are around the corner.

Enjoy.

 

[FrgMstr]

What a unprofessional, juvenile thing to do. Seems you have a lot of like minded idiots here giving you praise though. I'm sure the person you hung up on was personally responsible for Nano pricing (If this even happened).

Not really sure about your assessment of my conduct here, but let me give you a bit more context.

Yes, they told us pricing and I disconnected from a conference call with 10 other "journalists." Brent was still on the call. The AMD presentation was over and it was to the Q&A session of the call. I had other things to do. Once I heard the pricing after the AMD preso, I really needed to hear nothing beyond that.

 

[Snus]

nvidia fan boys everywhere....

back in 2013 i paid $350 for a 7850 mini, then i paid $329 for 760mini and $359 for 970 mini.

and yes im going to pay $650 for Fury Nano.

im a mini itx enthusiast, this card is not for everyone. most of you aren't real or potential buyers, just a bunch of fanboys complaining about a card that they arent going to buy...

No HDMI 2.0? who cares... are you guys really playing on TV with that Imput lag? hahaha really?

Hello! is almost 2016... There are 42" Freesync monitors...and DX12 games are around the corner.

Enjoy.

To be honest, im quite amased how well it has been recived on this forum, and on most other forums as well. Considering how small a niche this card as aimed at, at how few cases there are that soly suppurt the nano as its fastest card.

But in real SFF builds, case modding is often what it takes when you want Small, Silent and Fast, witch is what SFF is to me.

It is often so that we find a case we like and see what is the max performace that we can get, while 99% + choose pc case based on purly performance, and performance per $, some of us actually choose the highest performace we can get into the SFF case we want.

And yes after reading round on lots of forums, im happy that more than 1% seem to understand what this is all abaut

I think on this forum its u and me + maybe 2 more that like and will get this card, and i guess that is close to 1% of thoose who have been discussing in this tread

 

[DeadSkull]

Who the hell cares if its a paper launch right now with crazy price. Ofcourse if there is only going to be a few thousand units available worldwide at launch the price will reflect that. Wow [H], just blowing some stuff over the top.

The real big issue out there is that Nvidia gpus suck at running DX12 because of the shitty architecture with no ASYNC support. How come [H]ard hasn't said a thing about that.

 

[SamiiRoss]

To be honest, im quite amased how well it has been recived on this forum, and on most other forums as well. Considering how small a niche this card as aimed at, at how few cases there are that soly suppurt the nano as its fastest card.

But in real SFF builds, case modding is often what it takes when you want Small, Silent and Fast, witch is what SFF is to me.

It is often so that we find a case we like and see what is the max performace that we can get, while 99% + choose pc case based on purly performance, and performance per $, some of us actually choose the highest performace we can get into the SFF case we want.

And yes after reading round on lots of forums, im happy that more than 1% seem to understand what this is all abaut

I think on this forum its u and me + maybe 2 more that like and will get this card, and i guess that is close to 1% of thoose who have been discussing in this tread

Its like they don't understand, that there are people interested on this. the price is not a problem for me anyways. as we always pay premium for everything including itx motherboards.

funny thing here is that they are complaining and most of them got 980ti/titanx inside of a monster ATX case LOL

 

[Stryke1983]

Who the hell cares if its a paper launch right now with crazy price. Ofcourse if there is only going to be a few thousand units available worldwide at launch the price will reflect that. Wow [H], just blowing some stuff over the top.

The real big issue out there is that Nvidia gpus suck at running DX12 because of the shitty architecture with no ASYNC support. How come [H]ard hasn't said a thing about that.

Because so far the evidence that Nvidia GPUs are going to "suck" at DX12 is based on one game in it's Alpha stage. So anyone with some common sense is going to withhold judgement until we actually see more examples of DX12 games.

 

[SamiiRoss]

Because so far the evidence that Nvidia GPUs are going to "suck" at DX12 is based on one game in it's Alpha stage. So anyone with some common sense is going to withhold judgement until we actually see more examples of DX12 games.

Dude... no ASYNC support

 

[DPI]

Dude... no ASYNC support

Lmao. as if you even understand what that means. but I do love the sudden assumptions being made by plebs that think an alpha demo of what was originally a Mantle tech demo is somehow indicative of all DX12 gaming performance going forward.

 

[Stryke1983]

So you think the dominant GPU manufacturer in market share, finances and performance is about to sit back and allow itself to be crippled for at least the next few years?

That's not a prediction based on the evidence. That's certain people's blind faith leading them to HOPE that the situation goes the way they want.

 

[Deleted member 93354]

The real big issue out there is that Nvidia gpus suck at running DX12 because of the shitty architecture with no ASYNC support. How come [H]ard hasn't said a thing about that.

1. This is an AMD thread Not nvidia
2. There isn't a big enough base of DX12 games to make a good case for buying AMD. If you say, "Tomorrows" games...well you know the old saying, "one in the hand is better then two in the bush" In a couple months time (12 months+ )when there are a good quantity of DX 12 games then it becomes irrelevant as these cards will already by outdated.

 

[Rauelius]

Lmao. as if you even understand what that means. but I do love the sudden assumptions being made by plebs that think an alpha demo of what was originally a Mantle tech demo is somehow indicative of all DX12 gaming performance going forward.

Think of traffic flow moving from A->B.
NV GPUs: Has 1 road, with 1 lane for Cars (Graphics) and 32 lanes for Trucks (Compute).
But it cannot have both Cars and Trucks on the road at the same time. If the road is being used by Cars, Trucks have to wait in queue until all the Cars are cleared, then they can enter. This is the context switch that programmers refer to. It has a performance penalty.
AMD GCN GPUs: Has 1 Road (CP; Command Processor) with 1 lane for Cars & Trucks. Has an EXTRA 8 Roads (ACEs; Asynchronous Compute Engines) with 8 lanes each (64 total) for Trucks only.
So Cars and Truck can move freely, at the same time towards their destination, in parallel, asynchronously, Trucks through the ACEs, Cars through the CP. There is no context switch required.
NV's design is good for DX11, because DX11 can ONLY use 1 Road, period. GCN's ACEs are doing nothing in DX11, the extra roads are inaccessible/closed. DX12 opens all the roads.

 

[Snus]

Its like they don't understand, that there are people interested on this. the price is not a problem for me anyways. as we always pay premium for everything including itx motherboards.

funny thing here is that they are complaining and most of them got 980ti/titanx inside of a monster ATX case LOL

Its not their poisen, hehe, am so looking forward to see what the real good SFF builders can get out of this new toy. Myself as u probally seen like low profile SFF cases. Am old fashion that way.

 

[FrgMstr]

The real big issue out there is that Nvidia gpus suck at running DX12 because of the shitty architecture with no ASYNC support. How come [H]ard hasn't said a thing about that.

Because we have no hands on experience with DX12 titles on NVIDIA's current hardware. Until then we will hold our opinion on a non-existent experience.

 

[dscherf]

Titan X released before 980Ti
Nano released after FuryX

But, hey, I guess if you're in the market for SFF the Nano might be a good card and good value. If you're not making a SFF system then we need not even think about it.

 

[Snus]

*Wantapple, im a littel concered abaut the 175w thou, it will be a real challange to get that silent without loosing to much performance.

Any advices what is the best (fastest) 45w cpu out there, becouse well 45w, u can cool passiv with the right gear. But it has to be abel to not bottelneck the 175w nano, i do however recon Nano has to be a bit underclocked to get it silent.

Edit: Probally will have to set up, diffrent modes, one for silent and regular use, and one for gaming.

 

[Vittra]

To be honest, im quite amased how well it has been recived on this forum, and on most other forums as well. Considering how small a niche this card as aimed at, at how few cases there are that soly suppurt the nano as its fastest card.

But in real SFF builds, case modding is often what it takes when you want Small, Silent and Fast, witch is what SFF is to me.

It is often so that we find a case we like and see what is the max performace that we can get, while 99% + choose pc case based on purly performance, and performance per $, some of us actually choose the highest performace we can get into the SFF case we want.

And yes after reading round on lots of forums, im happy that more than 1% seem to understand what this is all abaut

I think on this forum its u and me + maybe 2 more that like and will get this card, and i guess that is close to 1% of thoose who have been discussing in this tread

Its like they don't understand, that there are people interested on this. the price is not a problem for me anyways. as we always pay premium for everything including itx motherboards.

funny thing here is that they are complaining and most of them got 980ti/titanx inside of a monster ATX case LOL

There is an SFF subforum on [H]. Few of the people who post there bother with the video card section, and vice versa. There's a reason for that.

 

[Nenu]

Which would seem to apply to both the Titan X and the Nano. Yet the Nvidia Titan X gets an [H] Editors Gold Choice award while the AMD Nano gets, "I actually hung up on the call when they told us the price".

When it came out it was by far the fastest card, allowing an experience nothing else could provide, there was no competition.
Its award was deserved.

When the Fury cards came out, there were already cards performing the same and much faster.
They did not come across with the same impact, in fact, the opposite.
They are priced so high its hard to recommend them let alone give them an award, especially the Nano.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

If you say, "Tomorrows" games...well you know the old saying...

Agreed.

I'll play tomorrows games with tomorrows GPU's