MrGuvernment
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It's fine by me, I definitely don't have anything to hide.
Do you have curtains on your windows at home better take them all off and down because you have nothing to hide....
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It's fine by me, I definitely don't have anything to hide.
i have no idea what you are talking about, the post had to do with data collecting not listening to phone calls, where did you come up with that?
Does Cortana listen to my phone calls?
No.
[U]ber|Noob;1041807072 said:Is there a third party automatic software program that can remove all the MS spyware from Windows 7/8 at least?
While I iron any issues with a move to linux for everything except for the occasional game, I just have to test a few win32 programs with wine. Often I help people install new operating systems/ upgrade etc, but I won't be installing any spyware os such as windows 10 on any computer.
[U]ber|Noob;1041807705 said:I'd just forget about windows 10 for 6-8 months, if they haven't cut out all this keylogging/spying stuff by then make the move to linux and recommend that's what everyone that asks me about installing windows 10 should do.
Then go for it. Prove that Microsoft listens to phone calls. The FBI would be really interested if you can. You know, all that stuff about how wiretapping is illegal?
So is there any effective to way to stop microsoft invading my privacy? Surely it should be illegal? For example if I spy on someone... that would be illegal... but microsoft are allowed to spy on me why? Because they are bigger and have more money the normal rules don't apply?
Originally Posted by Microsoft
Microsoft collects data to operate effectively and provide you the best experiences with our services. You provide some of this data directly, such as when you create a Microsoft account, submit a search query to Bing, speak a voice command to Cortana, upload a document to OneDrive, or contact us for support. We get some of it by recording how you interact with our services by, for example, using technologies like cookies, and receiving error reports or usage data from software running on your device.
We also obtain data from third parties (including other companies). For example, we supplement the data we collect by purchasing demographic data from other companies. We also use services from other companies to help us determine a location based on your IP address in order to customize certain services to your location.
The data we collect depends on the services and features you use, and includes the following.
Name and contact data. We collect your first and last name, email address, postal address, phone number, and other similar contact data.
Credentials. We collect passwords, password hints, and similar security information used for authentication and account access.
Demographic data. We collect data about you such as your age, gender, country and preferred language.
Interests and favorites. We collect data about your interests and favorites, such as the teams you follow in a sports app, the stocks you track in a finance app, or the favorite cities you add to a weather app. In addition to those you explicitly provide, your interests and favorites may also be inferred or derived from other data we collect.
Payment data. We collect data necessary to process your payment if you make purchases, such as your payment instrument number (such as a credit card number), and the security code associated with your payment instrument.
Usage data. We collect data about how you interact with our services. This includes data, such as the features you use, the items you purchase, the web pages you visit, and the search terms you enter. This also includes data about your device, including IP address, device identifiers, regional and language settings, and data about the network, operating system, browser or other software you use to connect to the services. And it also includes data about the performance of the services and any problems you experience with them.
Contacts and relationships. We collect data about your contacts and relationships if you use a Microsoft service to manage contacts, or to communicate or interact with other people or organizations.
Location data. We collect data about your location, which can be either precise or imprecise. Precise location data can be Global Position System (GPS) data, as well as data identifying nearby cell towers and Wi-Fi hotspots, we collect when you enable location-based services or features. Imprecise location data includes, for example, a location derived from your IP address or data that indicates where you are located with less precision, such as at a city or postal code level.
Content. We collect content of your files and communications when necessary to provide you with the services you use. This includes: the content of your documents, photos, music or video you upload to a Microsoft service such as OneDrive. It also includes the content of your communications sent or received using Microsoft services, such as the:
subject line and body of an email,
text or other content of an instant message,
audio and video recording of a video message, and
audio recording and transcript of a voice message you receive or a text message you dictate.
Additionally, when you contact us, such as for customer support, phone conversations or chat sessions with our representatives may be monitored and recorded. If you enter our retail stores, your image may be captured by our security cameras.
You have choices about the data we collect. When you are asked to provide personal data, you may decline. But if you choose not to provide data that is necessary to provide a service, you may not be able to use some features or services.
Service-specific sections below describe additional data collection practices applicable to use of those services.
i hope not the first one to point this out:
it cant be any worse than what google does with you phone or chrome, what Samsung does with your phone and smart TV, or what yahoo collects.
if you have a problem with it, don't use it, and read the eula first.
When you replied "i'm willing to bet this is a lie.", I assumed you were saying this in response to the last portion of my original post, which quoted Microsoft as stating:
I made that assumption because your reply did not make sense when applied to any other portion of my post. It's a little weird that you don't seem to be able to follow your own conversation.
As long as there is even a slightest chance that this data collection is taking place, I assume that it does take place and act accordingly. I've read the whole topic and I didn't see any articles linked that would debunk any of this.
People saying "I turned it off, and I believe it's off" is only proof of how gullible some can be.
i hope not the first one to point this out:
it cant be any worse than what google does with you phone or chrome, what Samsung does with your phone and smart TV, or what yahoo collects.
if you have a problem with it, don't use it, and read the eula first.
You should probably just get off the internet if this is really your stance. There is a better than "slightest chance" that something on your electronics could be collecting info on you at any time. Just browsing this forum is providing information to multiple servers about your whereabouts and times you use the Internet. People could use that information to track your movements. If you have a cell phone, they know where you are all the damn time, including who you call, what you browse, and who you chat with. Even if you go through a VPN, you are still revealing personal details to the VPN provider.
You are the brainwashed one here, you wouldn't be posting if you believed what you said and acted accordingly to prevent servers from collecting data from you.
Even if you go through a VPN, you are still revealing personal details to the VPN provider.
But the better VPN providers don't log anything. Stop being an apologist!
We can bitch about Win10 all we want, a lot of this stuff has been ongoing since Windows7 or before.
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?20504-Anyone-seeing-this
Note the year.
It's fine by me, I definitely don't have anything to hide.
Edit: Also connections are being made to IP 75.126.99.228 very regularly. A arin.net search says this IP belongs to a company called SoftLayer Technologies Inc. URL: http://www.softlayer.com/ Which apparently is an IBM company.
Guys, I think we're getting away from the point. In layman's terms, here's what I as a customer want to know.
1. Does Windows 10 data mine worse than Windows 7?
2. Will the OS respect my settings (if I tell it not to report something, will it respect that and not do it behind my back)?
I think we can all agree that there will be data mining, no matter what. It's just a matter of to what extent I will have control over it. If it matches Windows 7 without being way too intrusive in what it reports, I would be fine with it.
What do the different Diagnostic and usage data options mean?
As you use Windows, we collect performance and usage information that helps us identify and troubleshoot problems as well as improve our products and services. We recommend that you select Full for this setting.
Basic information is data that is vital to the operation of Windows. This data helps keep Windows and apps running properly by letting Microsoft know the capabilities of your device, what is installed, and whether Windows is operating correctly. This option also turns on basic error reporting back to Microsoft. If you select this option, well be able to provide updates to Windows (through Windows Update, including malicious software protection by the Malicious Software Removal Tool), but some apps and features may not work correctly or at all.
Enhanced data includes all Basic data plus data about how you use Windows, such as how frequently or how long you use certain features or apps and which apps you use most often. This option also lets us collect enhanced diagnostic information, such as the memory state of your device when a system or app crash occurs, as well as measure reliability of devices, the operating system, and apps. If you select this option, well be able to provide you with an enhanced and personalized Windows experience.
Full data includes all Basic and Enhanced data, and also turns on advanced diagnostic features that collect additional data from your device, such as system files or memory snapshots, which may unintentionally include parts of a document you were working on when a problem occurred. This information helps us further troubleshoot and fix problems. If an error report contains personal data, we wont use that information to identify, contact, or target advertising to you. This is the recommended option for the best Windows experience and the most effective troubleshooting.
Just noticed this in the diagnostics settings. There are three choices, basic, enhanced, and full. Shouldn't there be a "none" option?
Guess this is similar to what antivirus software does, now its just built into the OS.
Only the enterprise version has a forth option to turn this off.
Makes sense. I cant imagine what would happen if sensitive corporate or classified government docs made it out of their network embedded in an error log.
Classified documents can't be accessed on computers that are connected to the internet.
Could anyone check if this software is good to disable all windows data mining? I have tried and noticed the "Diagnostic and Usage Data" is blank now, but I am not sure if this little program is good to use.
https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking
"If you have nothing to hide - then you have nothing to fear" -Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda of Nazi Germany.
If you're using Skype and you're concerned about whether your privacy is being invaded, you're doing it wrong because Skype, like anything else on the Internet, is not private. If you want private video conferencing, go with Apple's Facetime.
I'm serious. Check out Apple's privacy policies and compare them to Microsoft's. Apple is saying things like this:
"Other companies try to build a profile about you using a complete history of everywhere youve been, usually because theyre targeting you for advertisers. Since our business doesnt depend on advertising, we have no interest in doing this and we couldnt even if we wanted to."
The FBI and DOJ are pissed off that they can't get through Apple's encryption.
So, Windows 10 = Hitler?