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Or you could just pay a hit man with bitcoin to kill someone in your way.
I kill people now?
I must have missed that memo.
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Or you could just pay a hit man with bitcoin to kill someone in your way.
Or you could just pay a hit man with bitcoin to kill someone in your way.
Name one single example.
Let me guess, is this your house?
The fact of the matter is that he ran a site for sharing files, many of which were 100% legal. The US government (ATF department for example) can traffick illegal weapons and lose track of them and not get in trouble. Banks like HSBC can launder money. And there are lots of violent criminals on the loose in general. Yet they spend their time and money going after someone who ran a website. Might as well seize all the assets of everyone's ISP as well for the same reason.
How about you stop listening to what politicians tell you and actually start using your brain? Politicians will tell you anything is illegal if it benefits them. Yet they don't mention that the things THEY do are illegal and the laws THEY pass are invalid in the first place. Congress keeps trying to override the Constitution by passing laws to make this and that illegal but they don't have the authority to override the Constitution with laws in the first place making many of these "illegal" things still legal. But while they lack authority, they do not lack the power to punish you if you don't obey their invalid laws.
Even if you want to argue that Dotcom did something illegal which I dispute in the first place, any rational human being would agree that the US really went too far in what they've done to him, and NZ's politicians either puppets and/or spineless for allowing it.
Let me get this straight. If I own a business and "many" of the products I sell are legal, then it should be fine that I sell a number of illegal products as well? Or in this case, I own a warehouse. I sell access to said warehouse. Many of the things in the warehouse are legal, but there are some that are not. So its totally okay with me selling access to people housing and distributing illegal goods through my warehouse?
If there is a law stating the government can do it, then how is it illegal? For it to be illegal there would have to be a law preventing the government from doing it.
If you think what the government is doing is illegal, then vote your mind and elect politicians who will repeal such laws giving the government that control.
He wasn't selling illegal goods. It was just a place for people to store their own files. Period. ISPs are just as responsible as MU was. And any claims that he paid people to store files illegally are just ridiculous and unproven. It's well-known that the US government invents any evidence it needs to make itself look better. This is not a case of someone stealing and selling copies. It's a case of someone offering a service which was used for what it is. Might as well sue Google because Gmail and Youtube have been used for piracy. Might as well sue Comcast because they don't block piracy.
As for laws, there are rules to how they work. It often isn't just a case of Congress convening and deciding that the laws in the country aren't dumb enough. They act like it is, but any time a law violates the Constitution, it is automatically invalid. They cannot override or amend the Constitution with their regular laws. It requires a Convention of States to do that which is a huge pain in the ass BY DESIGN. Also as I said before, invalid laws are always invalid. The claims of modern-day politicians that all laws are valid until the Supreme Court strikes them down are also invalid. The Constitution didn't put the Supreme Court in this position and that's not how the system was intended to work. Politicians claim otherwise only because the Supreme Court is not used for justice but is rather tasked with inventing excuses that the law is doing whatever it is. When is a law not a law? When it's invalid. Period.
And there are many things that simply aren't subject to laws in the first place. I don't mean stealing in that particular case, but smoking anything would be a good example.
But in any case Kim Dotcom can't reasonably be convicted of stealing here. I don't think the guy was some sort of gift to mankind, either, believe me. But I don't see any justice or fairness in the way his case was handled.
" And any claims that he paid people to store files illegally are just ridiculous and unproven."
So again, let's revisit this. Given your theory, the US government highway system is at fault for allowing vehicles carrying illegal goods to traverse their roads... Just as guilty as the person who is literally housing the illegal goods and making it possible to conduct the illegal transactions... And who is also charging a fee for this service.
So could the US GOV.Kim Dot Com can reasonably be convicted of stealing.
So if someone rented a storage unit from some company and filled it with illegal weapons, the owner of the storage unit is responsible for facilitating the trade of illegal weapons? Not only that, they received money for renting out the storage unit.
I'd wager, yes, as the US GOV itself has been bringing drugs into this country.
So could the US GOV.
Double standards though and all that BS.
Then prosecute them for it, and every other country that does the same. You can take the US government to court if you want.
"The government still uses the threat of damage to national security to get legitimate constitutional claims blocked in court," Rumold said. "Snowden's disclosures have absolutely changed the playing field, but the playing field is not level." - Source
National security, national security, everywhere.
So make a case that the Kim Dot Com situation is not a matter of national security. You will never get that with Snowden, because it is in point of fact, a clear cut case of national security.
If the government had nothing to fear they'd have nothing to hide. Only criminals want privacy.
That is a faulty statement. Plenty of innocent people want privacy. The government wants privacy because it needs to protect it's people from attacks domestic and foreign. If you are advertising your plans to defend yourself, then the enemy knows in what ways they can get through. Do you post your bank passwords, email passwords, credit card information etc all online for anyone to see?
Do you post your bank passwords, email passwords, credit card information etc all online for anyone to see?
That's just basic security for anyone, even non-government. The actual problem is they're hiding what should be public information from the people under the guise of national security (TPP). Is there anything that they can't refuse to tell us by stating it's national security? I don't think so. Nice extreme example though. I also don't tell people when I wipe my ass but that's besides the point.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...hite-house-foia-regulations-deleted/24844253/
A government doesn't need to hide everything from us (no one is saying to keep your passwords on sticky notes) and the rest of the world to protect us, they need to do it to fuck us over and have no repercussions for their actions. Obama even ran on implementing greater government transparency (because he knew we want that) and then threw it right out the fucking window when he got into office. Sound like a typical politician? Who to vote for, who to vote for...oh, that guy!!!
Yeah, good thing a lot us all voted, made a huge difference (Banks got richer and richer under every Pres....all while committing crimes poor people would go to jail for). We got change, mandatory healthcare and continuous wars and continuous internal inflation (when not worrying about the rest of the world, like, our money and our time). Governments are of little difference than kingdoms were thousands of years ago. The rich feast at the expense of the poor and middle class outside the walls barely making it while working to death.
We live in a country that went from only one person needing to work to maintain a proper family to a country where three* parents need to work (yes, inflation is so great) to survive and barely make ends meet. Then, if they want to, the government can just come in and take all of your shit in a civil forfeiture even when no crime has been committed.
Yes, the greatest country on Earth. Hah! My asshole it is. This is how I feel about America.
The government wants privacy because all of the NSA, DHS and other activities are clearly and blatantly illegal under the Constitution. Also the PATRIOT Act and everything like it are illegal, cannot override/amend the Constitution since they weren't done via Convention of States, and the government wants to protect that. The only things that shouldn't be public are current troop locations and such. The vast majority of what Snowden uncovered not only didn't threaten our safety but legally needed to be made public anyway via the Freedom of Information Act.
This is off-topic at this point but one should never miss an opportunity to smack down insane statists.