Samsung Galaxy S6

MrCrispy said:
Except for Apple. Their marketing and blind cult mentality of the fanbase makes them immune.
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Do you go in every thread and try to troll anything Apple? Seems the Apple hate group is more of a blind cult.
 
Apple has already tried testing the waters with cheaper options and it was a flop, I doubt we get another 5c.
 
But I dont want a glass back or non-removable power. In all likely hood this will be the phone that my family and I upgrade to on Black Friday at Best Buy. But on the other hand if it doesn't sell well then I expect a pretty deep discount by then.
 
kuyaglen said:
But I dont want a glass back or non-removable power. In all likely hood this will be the phone that my family and I upgrade to on Black Friday at Best Buy. But on the other hand if it doesn't sell well then I expect a pretty deep discount by then.
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The good thing with all the S models is they usually go on a steep discount, usually to compete with the HTC One. We will see Samsung's new direction on this phone. The only releases I'm interested in is the Note and 6S+ next year, hopefully more capable phablets can hit the market next year.
 
Trimlock said:
Apple has already tried testing the waters with cheaper options and it was a flop, I doubt we get another 5c.
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I think people are still confused over what the iPhone 5c was supposed to be. It was never intended as the super-cheap iPhone for the masses; that's something the rumor mill suggested based on leaks. It was simply Apple's attempt at repackaging and tweaking last year's phone to make the mid-range seem more appealing.

I wouldn't say the 5c was a flop (it bounced back from sluggish early sales), but it was a wasted opportunity to see what would happen if the base iPhone cost, say, $350 off-contract instead of $450. Not that the company is exactly hurting, since all indications are that the iPhone 6/6 Plus are selling very well (analysts are expecting around 60-70 million for Q4).

Samsung's problem has been that it tries to cover every space, but it's been making mistakes at multiple levels. At the high end, it coasted quickly (look at how conservative the designs got after the GS3) and frequently confused gimmicks with meaningful features that would convince people to upgrade. In the low- and mid-range phones, it got complacent and took a long time to realize how Chinese rivals had an inherent advantage. Companies like Xiaomi and Lenovo can usually deliver more for the money, and they were always going to be much more welcome than Samsung on Chinese soil.

As far as I'm concerned, the GS6 will only excite people if it's a real shake-up of the existing formula, something more than just a logical progression from what you saw last year. If it's effectively a GS5 with a slightly bigger screen, a Snapdragon 810 and a fixed fingerprint reader... well, that's nice, but it won't have people flocking to stores. I'd like to see both a genuinely exciting design and software that makes more than basic gestures toward simplicity.
 
Samsung Galaxy S5 was the best selling flagship Android device in China and also in Taiwan in 2014. So much for homefield advantage...

But I do believe Samsung GS6 probably would be defeated this year in China (don't know about Taiwan), assuming that Chinese phone manufacturers continue their marketing strategy and making beautiful phones with true high end hardware.
 
xIronCrossx said:
Do you go in every thread and try to troll anything Apple? Seems the Apple hate group is more of a blind cult.
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This. Who gives a shit what phone people have. Everything has a cult following: Cars, Wine/Beer, hair color, toenail size...etc. If people want to rave about a product that might not be better than another, what's the point in arguing with them? You're not going to change their mind, and you shouldn't try really. It's wasted breath/energy.
 
I now wonder if there is a Samsung conspiracy to spread fud about Qualcomm's S810 so they could use their own Exynos with a more "legit" reason...

I wouldn't put it past Samsung to do something like this (again)
 
Skripka said:
So much for s6 development

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-exynos-galaxy-s6-snapragon-810-581755/
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The processor in the likely most popular Android phone of 2015 is not going to dampen the development support at all. The developers will always naturally flock to the most popular and/or the easiest to develop on phone. The processor doesn't change a whole lot about how easy it is to develop on, the security structure of the phone does. If the S6 is easily rootable it will get tons of development.
 
But graphics optimization will suffer. Last I checked, Mali sucks and so is the expected graphical performance coming out of the Exynos SoC in comparison.
 
Still on my S3, but would probably pop on this S6.
 
Alleged specs (grain of salt) leaked for the S6.

http://phandroid.com/2015/01/21/samsung-galaxy-s6-specs-leak/

•64-bit eight-core 14nm CPU which is 50% faster
•5.1-inch Quad HD Super AMOLED display with a 577ppi density, stunning outdoor visibility, super dim mode for late night.
•A huge 20 megapixel OIS camera sensor and a 5 megapixel f/1.8 front-facing camera with real-time HDR
•32 / 64 / 128GB of storage
•2550mAh battery
•Built-in wireless charging
•Four hours of usage on a 10 minute charge
•Quick connect charging
•Samsung Pay: works with 90% of existing magnetic stripe payment terminals, and NFC payment terminals
•Metal and glass body
•Gorilla Glass 4
•Cat 6 LTE


Few interesting take aways (assuming this is true). If the rumors are true then and they are moving away from a non-removable battery, it would make sense that for the first time they would be offering 128gb models.

These specs sound beastly. However the one thing that jumps out at me is the smallish (by 2015 standards) 2550 mah battery. However, if true, then Samsung would be the first manufacturer to release a processor using a 14nm process. I'm not tech savy enough to speculate what this could mean for battery life. Hopefully huge improvements. Heck, I'm still impressed with what HTC could do with a similarly sized 2600 mah battery in the M8.

Anyway, I'm anxious to see the design of this thing. Given possible a Metal/glass body, I would imagine the phone will likely lose it's IP67 rating. We'll see.
 
CHANG3D said:
But graphics optimization will suffer. Last I checked, Mali sucks and so is the expected graphical performance coming out of the Exynos SoC in comparison.
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Android games will (mostly) never take hardware to their maximum because they have to target the widest demographic possible to remain profitable. The lone exceptions might be the few "tegra" titles that Nvidia pushes/sponsors.


I am really interested in that rumored 20MP camera with OIS. Sounds like it will take really nice pictures.
 
Trimlock said:
Apple has already tried testing the waters with cheaper options and it was a flop, I doubt we get another 5c.
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Because they had their low tier phone coming in at $549 when Nexus 4 was $299 and Nexus 5 was $349... It made no sense.
 
CHANG3D said:
I now wonder if there is a Samsung conspiracy to spread fud about Qualcomm's S810 so they could use their own Exynos with a more "legit" reason...
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Have you ever heard of thermal throttling? Which is more likely to suffer from throttling, 20nm Snapdragon 810 or 14nm Exynos 7420? How about if I give you this hint? I replaced a 22nm Haswell with active fan device that was throttling with 14nm Broadwell fanless that doesn't throttle and delivers consistent performance.
 
mi7chy said:
Have you ever heard of thermal throttling? Which is more likely to suffer from throttling, 20nm Snapdragon 810 or 14nm Exynos 7420? How about if I give you this hint? I replaced a 22nm Haswell with active fan device that was throttling with 14nm Broadwell fanless that doesn't throttle and delivers consistent performance.
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By your pettifogging, all phones currently in existence that uses a SoC above 14nm should burn up after the release of Samsung GS6. You want to talk about thermal throttling of the Galaxy S5?

Qualcomm currently dominates due to their radios. The Snapdragon's processing has never/hardly ever been best, but it's the radio's efficiency that most carriers care about. The only rumors about the S810 having heat issues come from Korea. LG has said that the S810 works fine and doesn't know who is making up the rumors. Well, that pretty much leaves Samsung.

Samsung manufactures a SoC with a decent integrated LTE radios now; why should they use S810 over the Exynos? No reason other than the carriers demanding that the S810 be used, unless there's a big problem with the S810.

BTW, I'm a supporter of Samsung using the Exynos for all GS6. Having a good competition to Qualcomm is great.
 
Chop off 'em fat bezels and make the "mini 4.7-inch" version with highend up specs like its bigger brothers. Give me 15+ hrs of battery life and I'll surrender my iphone 6+ immediately.
 
More rumors of metal and de-bloating.

There are renders on PhoneArena that someone who has claimed to have seen a prototype made or something. Looks like an iPhone 5...

Samsung will put all non-essential apps/functionalities on the Play Store or Samsung's own app store.
 
That sounds like touchwiz done right. But another important concern is how it will look. Because we can all agree touchwiz is extremely fugly right now.
 
Alleged leaked image from prototype:
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Looks photoshopped...

I sure hope that the final version will NOT look this much like an iPhone 4 or 5... But then this IS Samsung... No matter how great the Exynos is over the Snapdragon, this phone will be judged by its cover.
 
qualcomm stated that KEY customer passed on new chip
i guess Exynos is confirmed now
 
CHANG3D said:
Alleged leaked image from prototype:
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Looks photoshopped...

I sure hope that the final version will NOT look this much like an iPhone 4 or 5... But then this IS Samsung... No matter how great the Exynos is over the Snapdragon, this phone will be judged by its cover.
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Something is broken and this looks photoshopped. Cameras look like they were copy and pasted into the image (lighting and focus isn't adding up), and the black one is missing the notch on the backplate that the white one has that on the S5 would be the notch for removing the backplate.
 


Looks like the mock-up looks about right from what we can infer from the case design (more pictures of the actual case in link). The Samsung GS6 will likely look like ass... I mean iPhone 4/5. Now I await for the Samsung accessories expansion or whatever it's rumored to have. Maybe with those items the phone will look better. When XiaoMi or Huawei makes a better looking phone then you, go back to the drawing boards, Samsung! I sure hope that the cases are designed off decoys like HTC did this year.

Spigen:
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CHANG3D, I'm with you. I badly want the S6, should in theory be the the best android camera available, but fuck I was hoping they'd redesign. Spigen is usually pretty on the money with their early leaks. Makes me sad. I've never been into Samsung because of awful design and plastic, but Note 4 is the best android phone right now, can't deny it, but it's too big. I was hoping S6 would get a nice makeover to compete with HTC or Sony.. I am very sad, because I'm most likely going to have to get an S6. Going to be awful going from a phone I love to look at ( M7 ) to a phone I hate looking at.
 
Looks like pricing is not going to be a strong suit.

  • Samsung Galaxy S6 32 GB: 749 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S6 64 GB: 849 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S6 128 GB: 949 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S Edge 32 GB: 849 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S Edge 64 GB: 949 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S Edge 128 GB: 1049 euros

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This puts it right in the middle of the iPhone 6 and 6+. Which from a pure phone size perspective makes sense, but it seems a bit optimistic by Samsung I think. Price should be at or below the iPhone6.
 
Erasmus354 said:
Looks like pricing is not going to be a strong suit.

  • Samsung Galaxy S6 32 GB: 749 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S6 64 GB: 849 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S6 128 GB: 949 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S Edge 32 GB: 849 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S Edge 64 GB: 949 euros
  • Samsung Galaxy S Edge 128 GB: 1049 euros

Source


This puts it right in the middle of the iPhone 6 and 6+. Which from a pure phone size perspective makes sense, but it seems a bit optimistic by Samsung I think. Price should be at or below the iPhone6.
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I'm a bit skeptical of this "trusted source," especially since prices tend to change at the last minute. Besides, history suggests that Samsung won't want to rock the boat too much. My money's on US pricing of $200 on contract for the regular GS6, or about $650 up front. If there's a separate Edge model, I figure it'll carry a roughly $100 premium.
 
I fully support Samsung using their own Exynos SoC over Qualcomm's.

Samsung, the largest tech company in the world by revenues, is more than capable of manufacturing their own SoCs on a scale 100X that of Qualcomm.

Samsung is even using their own camera modules for the SGS6. I think this may be the first time that Samsung uses their components almost exclusively on the International variant of their flagship.
 
I could give a shit less what it looks like, I have not had a naked phone since they started making smart phones.
 
IMO I'm not sure if the SGS6 will have a warped display like the Galaxy Edge.

There are some sources that point to this idea, but that could compromise ergonomics.
 
The alleged aluminum shell is making the rounds over a squatting toilet... Too many pictures to post, but I'm sure you can find them. You can also find a lot of renders now for the phone with people taking that aluminum shell plus the front of the phones from the phone cases. A lot of publications are suggesting it looks an awful lot like an iPhone 6... Get ready for another lawsuit! But it certainly looks better than when it looked like an iPhone 4/5...

Now we wait for the real leak and the real benchmarks (especially battery life and TouchWiz)

Also, even if you have a case, it still doesn't mean that the phone should not look like ass on the inside.
 
Zorachus said:
Agreed :)

A case is a must.

I don't care how good you treat your phone, if no case, it will eventually show everyday wear and tare, a little accidental scuff or scratch, here or there. Which is impossible to prevent over a years worth of use.

So if you don't care what you're phone looks like, then run naked with no case. But if you want to keep it in near perfect condition a year + later, then a case is a must have.
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My Galaxy Nexus has been naked for over 3 years and is still in near perfect condition. Haven't dropped it, no scratches or dents on it at all. I keep it in my pocket all the time, but I don't keep anything else in the pocket with it. No screen protector either. :eek: I guess some people are just more careful with their devices than others. I did have to replace my charging port, but no case would have prevented that breaking.
 
The Samsung Galaxy S6 will probably be Samsung's biggest release since the Galaxy S3.

The Galaxy S4 and S5 were just not designed well IMO. The Galaxy S4 was just a more angular version of the SGS3 with a slight increase in screen size. The SGS5 had a superb AMOLED display, but it was pretty much the SGS4 in almost all other regards (except software).

The SGS6 promises a lot of things like metal build, Exynos processor (over awful Snapdragon), Samsung-made camera, overhauling of software, etc. We never know what the SGS6 will look like until it officially gets announced in 3 weeks time.

I'm pretty sure Samsung will market the hell out of the SGS6. They didn't spend much on marketing for the SGS5 for some reason. The SGS3 had the most marketing followed by the SGS4.

So Samsung will spend more money on marketing for the SGS6 and they have also listened to customer's feedback and they most likely have designed a product that meets the expectations of current & former Galaxy owners. This will most likely lure some former Galaxy owners back to Samsung again. It's another tug of war game between Samsung and Apple.
 
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WarpDrive said:
The Samsung Galaxy S6 will probably be Samsung's biggest release since the Galaxy S3.

The Galaxy S4 and S5 were just not designed well IMO. The Galaxy S4 was just a more angular version of the SGS3 with a slight increase in screen size. The SGS5 had a superb AMOLED display, but it was pretty much the SGS4 in almost all other regards (except software).

The SGS6 promises a lot of things like metal build, Exynos processor (over awful Snapdragon), Samsung-made camera, overhauling of software, etc. We never know what the SGS6 will look like until it officially gets announced in 3 weeks time.

I'm pretty sure Samsung will market the hell out of the SGS6. They didn't spend much on marketing for the SGS5 for some reason. The SGS3 had the most marketing followed by the SGS4.

So Samsung will spend more money on marketing for the SGS6 and they have also listened to customer's feedback and they most likely have designed a product that meets the expectations of current & former Galaxy owners. This will most likely lure some former Galaxy owners back to Samsung again. It's another tug of war game between Samsung and Apple.
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And where did you find this all out ?

I think we heard the same statements right before the S5 came out last year. :D

- The S5 might have an all new design, more premium
- The S5 will have a revised Touchwiz, much smoother, and not a hog on the OS
- The S5 will be a big step up from the lame S4.

LOL that never happened.
 
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