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seeing as though I don't do anything to draw gunfire, yeah baseless worry about it is silly.
If you're black just reaching for your wallet on a normal seat belt stop after the cop tells you to get it could get you shot. Just happened.
 
Nice.

Yeah, I gave you a "nice". Don't get used to it. :p

Thanks. Unfortunately there's really nothing nice about it. There is a reality of how things work in this world. I was fortunate enough to be raised by parents that were old and wise enough to teach me at least at little about it.

Even in my lifetime currently at the age of 46, as a black male in my teens and early 20's, I had to VERY careful about dealing with white females. That's what I was taught, not only by my parents but even in the public school system by some teachers at the time. The interesting thing was when I went to almost all white male boarding high school with about a 20% almost all white female day school population, the subject never came up. But I never got a girl at the school knocked up either.

There's a bunch of young guys in this thread who have no concept of anything meaningful beyond today's headlines. Or at least they aren't expressing anything real.
 
Thanks. Unfortunately there's really nothing nice about it. There is a reality of how things work in this world. I was fortunate enough to be raised by parents that were old and wise enough to teach me at least at little about it.

Even in my lifetime currently at the age of 46, as a black male in my teens and early 20's, I had to VERY careful about dealing with white females. That's what I was taught, not only by my parents but even in the public school system by some teachers at the time. The interesting thing was when I went to almost all white male boarding high school with about a 20% almost all white female day school population, the subject never came up. But I never got a girl at the school knocked up either.

There's a bunch of young guys in this thread who have no concept of anything meaningful beyond today's headlines. Or at least they aren't expressing anything real.

Did you hear about this in New York City? NYPD chasing nonwhite students away from the neighborhood as soon as school is out? That Sandinista mayor is just doing a bang-up job, isn't he?
 
Did you hear about this in New York City? NYPD chasing nonwhite students away from the neighborhood as soon as school is out? That Sandinista mayor is just doing a bang-up job, isn't he?

Anyone can point to any number of links on the web that have nothing to do with their lives or their reality. The reason why some many of you complain about things is because the world that you live in now is different from not to long ago. But as different as it is now, there are still those things that persist many years before any of us were born.

Learn to win with the hand you've been dealt or cry like a looser. Again, mamma Heatlesssun was much wiser than I ever knew.
 
Anyone can point to any number of links on the web that have nothing to do with their lives or their reality. The reason why some many of you complain about things is because the world that you live in now is different from not to long ago. But as different as it is now, there are still those things that persist many years before any of us were born.

Learn to win with the hand you've been dealt or cry like a looser. Again, mamma Heatlesssun was much wiser than I ever knew.

There's been no improvement for anyone in the past 6 years especially Blacks. Not really seeing the advantage for anyone for this 'different' world. Unless the changes were focused on the wrong "waste of time but looks good" things.
 
Surely the solution to loads of issues here regarding rape would be simply video taping everything? :)

Oh, you were being raped you say? Well, you looked mighty comfortable riding this honcho.
 
In short, this is simply another part of the ever growing feminist hate movement, looking to blame their own weakness and shortcomings on another class of people, all while trying to disguise their hate speech with an air of moral superiority as "freedom fighters for the oppressed". Hey, if it worked for Hitler.

And here is another very recent example, of how loosely these feminists interpret "rape":
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...J-day-photo-torn-portrays-sexual-assault.html

French feminists are furious and demanding the removal of the famous Normandy peace statue, complaining that the iconic figure is depicting a RAPE in progress... even though the actual woman depicted was interviewed and claimed nothing of the sort and too was caught up in the joy of the moment.

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Fact is, these feminists fanning the flames of male hatred, and the politicians trying to selfishly capitalize on this gender warfare are ruining society, and yet out of fear of being labeled a jew, I mean communi, I mean male chauvinist swine, too many normal guys tolerate it.
 
Western feminists are an abject joke.

While Anita Sarkeesian bitches about a developer daring to put an attractive woman in a video game, real feminists like Malala Yousafzai (who took a bullet to the head for her views) are putting their lives at risk by openly defying the taliban in suggesting that women should get an education.

While Zoe Quinn bitches about how it is misogynistic (sic) to call her out for sleeping around with game reviewers, dozens of Saudi Arabian women defy a ban on women driving, facing imprisonment or worse.

While western feminists try to force men to now get "contracts" for having sex, real feminists are fighting female genital mutilation in Africa and the Middle East.

California is a terrible state run by a bunch of left-wing Marxists who do not believe in freedom or private property. Political correctness is enforced at the barrel of a gun. Private property isn't private because California courts have ruled that people have the right to trespass on private property for the purpose of protesting. Every single product has warning labels on it that it might cause cancer (even if it doesn't) because otherwise, you will have your money stolen by money-grubbing lawyers. The only productive parts of California are experiencing one of the worst water shortages in history thanks to radical leftist environmentalists who think that a stupid fish is more important than people.

To be honest, I feel bad for northern, central, and eastern California because they are actually populated by sane people (who should really secede from California). It is the morons in San Francisco and Los Angeles that keep voting in the moonbats.
 
I read this whole damn thread (I must have something wrong with me), and I really never got that impression from anyone. From the way you phrase the above, sure it'd be fucked up if you're just shoving booze down a chicks throat with the goal of getting laid.
ducman stated in two separate posts that he believes that women are specifically trained to say "no" when they really mean "yes"

lilbabycat stated in two separate posts that this created "yet another loophole for rape-accusers" to harm men and that supporters of anti-rape legislation are "feminazis"

stilletto has stated, here and elsewhere, that men who point out the toxicity of his views and statements against women are "White Knights" and "SJW." Yesterday, when a former member left the board permanently in disgust over misogynist comments he called her a "whiny bitch"

Multiple people, yourself included, have pointed out that they wouldn't have gotten laid if not for alcohol clouding the judgment of the people having sex. Two people outright said if they had to ask someone for sex they wouldn't get to have sex.


So clearly some people in this thread think that taking sex, either through manipulation, intoxication, and even force is their prerogative and people who says otherwise are simply "bitches" or "nazis" or whatever pejorative label they can muster up.

The fact that you wrote you read the thread and didn't come away from it with that impression, even though multiple people already posted that they agreed with my earlier assessment about those vile comments, is indicative of the problem.

That these people would make these statements in a pseudo-anonymous environment leaves one to wonder just how far they'd go to have sex with a woman in private, without any witnesses to the event.
 
In short, this is simply another part of the ever growing feminist hate movement, looking to blame their own weakness and shortcomings on another class of people, all while trying to disguise their hate speech with an air of moral superiority as "freedom fighters for the oppressed". Hey, if it worked for Hitler.

And here is another very recent example, of how loosely these feminists interpret "rape":
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...J-day-photo-torn-portrays-sexual-assault.html

French feminists are furious and demanding the removal of the famous Normandy peace statue, complaining that the iconic figure is depicting a RAPE in progress... even though the actual woman depicted was interviewed and claimed nothing of the sort and too was caught up in the joy of the moment.

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Fact is, these feminists fanning the flames of male hatred, and the politicians trying to selfishly capitalize on this gender warfare are ruining society, and yet out of fear of being labeled a jew, I mean communi, I mean male chauvinist swine, too many normal guys tolerate it.

If I were to come up to your wife or daughter out of the blue and just grab and kiss her, I have a feeling that neither she nor you would think that's too cool. You don't go around grabbing and kissing random women, it is by definition sexual assault.

And I'm not saying this particular case at this particular moment was anything malicious or that the woman felt that she was being assaulted, I'm just saying that the act isn't something that should be considered ok either because it's not.
 
Yesterday, when a former member left the board permanently in disgust over misogynist comments he called her a "whiny bitch"

That these people would make these statements in a pseudo-anonymous environment leaves one to wonder just how far they'd go to have sex with a woman in private, without any witnesses to the event.

Yes, the fact that I called someone I assumed to be a man a whiny bitch when he loudly whined and bitched before proclaiming their permanent exit from an internet forum because they were so upset by people not being as upset as them...totally makes you wonder whether the number of women I raped an hour ago was in the hundreds or thousands.

Serious question: do you ever really stop and look at just how toxic your own comments are before you pass that judgment onto others? Or are you simply oblivious to how hypocritical you are, like how you lamented "provoking people" right after quoting George Carlin, part of whose schtick was provoking people?
 
If I were to come up to your wife or daughter out of the blue and just grab and kiss her, I have a feeling that neither she nor you would think that's too cool. You don't go around grabbing and kissing random women, it is by definition sexual assault.

And I'm not saying this particular case at this particular moment was anything malicious or that the woman felt that she was being assaulted, I'm just saying that the act isn't something that should be considered ok either because it's not.

The issue is the "iconic image" is an "iconic image" because it symbolizes celebration of victory in WW2, not an imagined sexual assault.

This, like most of the radical feminist claims, are a "You see what you want to see" scenario.

Also, where is the uproar for the lesbian homage to this scene from The Watchmen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOcB31YmIvQ
 
If I were to come up to your wife or daughter out of the blue and just grab and kiss her, I have a feeling that neither she nor you would think that's too cool.

Did we just end a war in which half a million of our people have died fighting against one of the most horrific and vile enemies we've ever faced? Were you a soldier celebrating that fact?

Then I, and hopefully my daughter, would laugh it off as a memorable moment and go on with our lives, far more focused on the fact that a true evil has been defeated.

This whole reaction you're relaying is a demonstration of how fucked up human beings get when they've spent so long being too protected from the dangers of the world. Getting upset about a statue like that is a fine example of "first world problems".
 
Did we just end a war in which half a million of our people have died fighting against one of the most horrific and vile enemies we've ever faced? Were you a soldier celebrating that fact?

My father was a WW II veteran. If he had done this with this particular woman it wouldn't have been so iconic. Bottom line, a man doesn't go up to random woman and grab and kiss them. That's just common sense I would hope.
 
My father was a WW II veteran. If he had done this with this particular woman it wouldn't have been so iconic. Bottom line, a man doesn't go up to random woman and grab and kiss them. That's just common sense I would hope.

Bottom line, a soldier celebrating the end of the biggest war we've ever had by kissing a random woman once shouldn't be labeled with the same language we use to describe rape. That's just common sense I would hope.

You yourself recognize that the woman didn't consider it assault, so why do you think you know better?
 
Bottom line, a soldier celebrating the end of the biggest war we've ever had by kissing a random woman once shouldn't be labeled with the same language we use to describe rape. That's just common sense I would hope.

You yourself recognize that the woman didn't consider it assault, so why do you think you know better?

A man doesn't touch a woman that doesn't ask or want to be touched. That's how I was raised and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being taught basic common sense and self-control.
 
A man doesn't touch a woman that doesn't ask or want to be touched. That's how I was raised and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being taught basic common sense and self-control.
1) People start making out all the time organically (silence, long eye contact, get closer, initiate tongue action), and if one person reads the other person wrong, you just say whoah and push them away and recoil. If it ends there, you weren't "mouth raped".
2) To say that a woman is so fucktarded that she would allow someone to have sex with her when she didn't want it, without any objection physically or verbally whatsoever is a whole new level of idiotic.
3) The idea that two people can both be legally drunk and have consensual sex, but then one can accuse the other of RAPE in this scenario (after all the OH faces and "MM YES DO ME HARDERS" heard by half the neighbors on the block), and it actually end in one of them getting expelled is beyond asinine.
4) Yes, there is such a thing as a "soft-no" that is just playing coy, and anyone pretending that doesn't exist is a big fat liar with an agenda. For example, I was making out with my girlfriend at a golf course at night, and while giggling she said "stoooop, someone might see us", but it didn't really mean stop, and yes we enjoyed fooling around, and she was a very active participant after some coaxing. A real "NO" is generally quite obvious, encompassing body language, tone, volume, etc.

But again, the real issue here to stay on topic is that the feminist movement has helped push into law something that puts the burden of proof of proving the rape accuser consented to sex at all times and wasn't "taken advantage of" while drunk. What I'd love to see is the first time this gets put to the test is a guy that intentionally allows himself to get a little buzzed, gets picked up by a so-so girl, and then accuses her of rape and gets her expelled. Unfortunately, in the real world that simply would never fly, and that's why feminists support this nonsense as they find it empowering that they can call everything and anything rape, and men will have to prove it wasn't or face having their lives ruined. Its a power trip.
 
But again, the real issue here to stay on topic is that the feminist movement has helped push into law something that puts the burden of proof of proving the rape accuser consented to sex at all times and wasn't "taken advantage of" while drunk.

It's not much of an issue has a little self-control and common sense. Has anyone here ever had an issue with a woman over this subject?
 
It's not much of an issue has a little self-control and common sense. Has anyone here ever had an issue with a woman over this subject?

The "if you disagree with me on this, then you must engage in violent criminal acts" garbage is really stupid, you know.
 
If I were to come up to your wife or daughter out of the blue and just grab and kiss her, I have a feeling that neither she nor you would think that's too cool. You don't go around grabbing and kissing random women, it is by definition sexual assault.[\QUOTE]

UGH. Absolutely disgusting.

You take a beautiful moment of celebration and relief and joy and turn it into an imagined sexual assault. Sickening political correctness.
 
The "if you disagree with me on this, then you must engage in violent criminal acts" garbage is really stupid, you know.

Please tell me what's wrong with believing that man shouldn't touch a woman unless he's damned sure that's what she wants? Likewise what's wrong with a woman believing that she shouldn't touch a man unless she's damned sure that's what he wants? If this is some sort of crime I'd love to now how.
 
It's not much of an issue has a little self-control and common sense. Has anyone here ever had an issue with a woman over this subject?
This was just implemented. OK, lets create a hypothetical scenario here, and even if you don't think it could happen to you personally, let me know if you find this implausible.

I'm a 19 year old freshman girl, and I meet a guy at the pool party on Saturday by my near campus apartment. I have a blast in my bikini and get a bunch of free booze and BBQ and do body shots and get loud and just have a fun time. I see some hot dude, or at least guy I think is hot after the "social lubricant" of that tequila, and give him the eye and smile. He approaches and we hit it off and he takes me back to my place upstairs. We have a wild night, and I wake up and find that not only is he not as attractive as my beer goggles led me to believe, but he's kind of a dick and then bails. Later I find out from friends he's bragging that he banged the slut from room 413. Now, I have decided that he took advantage of me while drunk and that constitutes rape, even though I didn't object at the time and he probably had drinks at the party too. He now has to show proof that he did not rape me (where is he going to come up with that), and that I wasn't drunk when my girlfriends who have my back can testify I was doing body shots and acting a fool. That guy now loses his scholarship and gets expelled, and the reason everyone in his and my circle find out is because he's a RAPIST.

Can that happen as this is written, and do you see anything wrong with that result?
 
The "if you disagree with me on this, then you must engage in violent criminal acts" garbage is really stupid, you know.
There has been plenty of civil disagreement in this thread and no one using that mere disagreement as the basis of accusing someone of violent acts.

But if you repeatedly post on a public form that you believe that women often say no when they really mean yes then don't be surprised if some others start to point out that you are employing the same logic as rapists.


And for the record, the article linked about that statue nonsense quotes the woman who was kissed as saying she didn't consent, was grabbed and couldn't move away, but also doesn't have much to say else about it.

What would she say? Even a woman who had been raped in the 40's would have had a difficult time doing anything about it so imagine how a woman raising an issue about being kissed and not wanting it in the context of a soldier coming home after one of our nation's most popular wars would have been treated. She very well could have been raped or killed in response assuming she even considered it an assault, which might not have been likely given our society's understanding of women's rights and ownership of self at the time. The soldier is dead now and she's not far behind herself so it's irrelevant in the grand span of her life most likely--but that doesn't make the behavior ok.

That's the problem you guys seem to be incapable of understanding--just because a woman doesn't forcibly tell you to stop doesn't mean you're justified in doing whatever the hell you want with her body. This isn't a feminist project or understanding, although they find themselves allied with people who believe it to be true, it's a basic understanding of personal respect for one another (again, another concept that stilletto and others in this thread repeatedly demonstrate they lack).

Shitting up this thread with that kind of irrelevant discussion, and ignoring the social context within which it occurred, is just blatant myopia and unsurprisingly coming from the same usual suspects who are trotting out these lame "discussion" points in the same kinds of threads.
 
Please tell me what's wrong with believing that man shouldn't touch a woman unless he's damned sure that's what she wants? Likewise what's wrong with a woman believing that she shouldn't touch a man unless she's damned sure that's what he wants? If this is some sort of crime I'd love to now how.

Please tell me that it's possible for you to address a single incident, in which the "victim" states she was not victimized, without looking at it through the darkest fucking prism you can imagine. People need to wake up to the fact that way more often than not, they are projecting their own tints onto far less acrimonious or lurid moments. We have become an insanely paranoid, isolated culture...searching for reasons to fear other tribes.
 
There has been plenty of civil disagreement in this thread and no one using that mere disagreement as the basis of accusing someone of violent acts.

That these people would make these statements in a pseudo-anonymous environment leaves one to wonder just how far they'd go to have sex with a woman in private, without any witnesses to the event.

If you're trying to ratchet up the hypocrisy to vomit-inducing level, you're well on your way. Kudos.
 
This was just implemented. OK, lets create a hypothetical scenario here, and even if you don't think it could happen to you personally, let me know if you find this implausible.

I'm a 19 year old freshman girl, and I meet a guy at the pool party on Saturday by my near campus apartment. I have a blast in my bikini and get a bunch of free booze and BBQ and do body shots and get loud and just have a fun time. I see some hot dude, or at least guy I think is hot after the "social lubricant" of that tequila, and give him the eye and smile. He approaches and we hit it off and he takes me back to my place upstairs. We have a wild night, and I wake up and find that not only is he not as attractive as my beer goggles led me to believe, but he's kind of a dick and then bails. Later I find out from friends he's bragging that he banged the slut from room 413. Now, I have decided that he took advantage of me while drunk and that constitutes rape, even though I didn't object at the time and he probably had drinks at the party too. He now has to show proof that he did not rape me (where is he going to come up with that), and that I wasn't drunk when my girlfriends who have my back can testify I was doing body shots and acting a fool. That guy now loses his scholarship and gets expelled, and the reason everyone in his and my circle find out is because he's a RAPIST.

Can that happen as this is written, and do you see anything wrong with that result?
Depends on who it is...

If it's me,

I will be able to tell the fact finder that I asked the girl if she was ok with us having sex.
I would also be able to have past lovers testify on my behalf that, not only do I have a history of asking about sex directly, but I have historically adhered to a general policy of not sleeping with them when they were intoxicated and recommending that they "sleep it off" for a while before revising the subject. They would also be able to testify on my behalf that I have used phrases like, "let's take our time" "there's no rush" "how are you doing" etc.

All of which would point to my personal history of obtaining affirmed consent before engaging in sex and pointing to a likelihood that I didn't take advantage of this girl.


You, on the other hand, would say to the fact finder that "everyone knows that women get drunk and say no even though they mean yes" "they do this because they don't want to look like sluts even though we all know what they really want is to have sex"

Someone might even print out all of your posts in this thread and use them against you.
The fact finder might also look at your conduct afterwards where you apparently walked around and talked derogatorily about the woman you slept with afterwards.

All of which would cause skepticism about your claims that you gained her consent prior to the sexual encounter and that you were generally respectful of her as a person.
 
If you're trying to ratchet up the hypocrisy to vomit-inducing level, you're well on your way. Kudos.
So you think it's hypocrisy because you believe that saying "girls mean yes when they say no" and "we wouldn't get laid if we didn't get girls drunk first" are simple disagreements and not expressions of the same type of logic rapists use?
 
This was just implemented. OK, lets create a hypothetical scenario here, and even if you don't think it could happen to you personally, let me know if you find this implausible.

I'm a 19 year old freshman girl, and I meet a guy at the pool party on Saturday by my near campus apartment. I have a blast in my bikini and get a bunch of free booze and BBQ and do body shots and get loud and just have a fun time. I see some hot dude, or at least guy I think is hot after the "social lubricant" of that tequila, and give him the eye and smile. He approaches and we hit it off and he takes me back to my place upstairs. We have a wild night, and I wake up and find that not only is he not as attractive as my beer goggles led me to believe, but he's kind of a dick and then bails. Later I find out from friends he's bragging that he banged the slut from room 413. Now, I have decided that he took advantage of me while drunk and that constitutes rape, even though I didn't object at the time and he probably had drinks at the party too. He now has to show proof that he did not rape me (where is he going to come up with that), and that I wasn't drunk when my girlfriends who have my back can testify I was doing body shots and acting a fool. That guy now loses his scholarship and gets expelled, and the reason everyone in his and my circle find out is because he's a RAPIST.

Can that happen as this is written, and do you see anything wrong with that result?

And all of this is avoided when a guy has enough sense to know not to do drunk girls. My dad would 93 today if he were alive and my mom is 87 and they warned me CONSTANTLY about getting into these kinds of situations. Some of you want to blame feminists or whatever. Here's a secret. This stuff has been going on long before any of us were born and has little to do with politics. It's just how the situation can be between men and woman sometimes and it's going to be like this long after we're all dead and gone.
 
Please tell me that it's possible for you to address a single incident, in which the "victim" states she was not victimized, without looking at it through the darkest fucking prism you can imagine. People need to wake up to the fact that way more often than not, they are projecting their own tints onto far less acrimonious or lurid moments. We have become an insanely paranoid, isolated culture...searching for reasons to fear other tribes.

So it's simple. Don't touch a woman unless you're damned sure that's what she wants, and it's best to avoid women under the influence. What's so hard or evil or judgmental about thinking with the correct head?
 
So you think it's hypocrisy because you believe that saying "girls mean yes when they say no" and "we wouldn't get laid if we didn't get girls drunk first" are simple disagreements and not expressions of the same type of logic rapists use?

You continue to overgeneralize and take statements out of context. How about you stop being willfully ignorant to what is actually being said?

Someone says "I've slept with many women that involved alcohol" and you translate it as "I only get laid with drunk women".

Someone says "I've had situations where the girl acts coy and says in specific tone Noo...*wink wink*" and you cut it down to "No means yes".

You're fucking ridiculous. How about I take your three paragraph long description of your sexual experiences and extrapolate all the sexual assaults you committed in its contents? Or assume that because you have "have sex with women in their 20's" that you are clearly taking advantage of your students? Using your thought process it would take zero effort, but I'm not you.

You are a pure hypocrite, and I have a picture of your Doctorate in Philosophy to prove it.
 
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