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If you're a black man, you better have a healthy fear of both of these things. That's what mamma Heatlesssun taught me.
If you're black just reaching for your wallet on a normal seat belt stop after the cop tells you to get it could get you shot. Just happened.seeing as though I don't do anything to draw gunfire, yeah baseless worry about it is silly.
Another mischaracterization, and great job being dishonest!
Considering you knew what I meant and intentionally obfuscated the point, your projection is quite amusing! Trollololol!
Nice.
Yeah, I gave you a "nice". Don't get used to it.
Thanks. Unfortunately there's really nothing nice about it. There is a reality of how things work in this world. I was fortunate enough to be raised by parents that were old and wise enough to teach me at least at little about it.
Even in my lifetime currently at the age of 46, as a black male in my teens and early 20's, I had to VERY careful about dealing with white females. That's what I was taught, not only by my parents but even in the public school system by some teachers at the time. The interesting thing was when I went to almost all white male boarding high school with about a 20% almost all white female day school population, the subject never came up. But I never got a girl at the school knocked up either.
There's a bunch of young guys in this thread who have no concept of anything meaningful beyond today's headlines. Or at least they aren't expressing anything real.
Did you hear about this in New York City? NYPD chasing nonwhite students away from the neighborhood as soon as school is out? That Sandinista mayor is just doing a bang-up job, isn't he?
Anyone can point to any number of links on the web that have nothing to do with their lives or their reality. The reason why some many of you complain about things is because the world that you live in now is different from not to long ago. But as different as it is now, there are still those things that persist many years before any of us were born.
Learn to win with the hand you've been dealt or cry like a looser. Again, mamma Heatlesssun was much wiser than I ever knew.
ducman stated in two separate posts that he believes that women are specifically trained to say "no" when they really mean "yes"I read this whole damn thread (I must have something wrong with me), and I really never got that impression from anyone. From the way you phrase the above, sure it'd be fucked up if you're just shoving booze down a chicks throat with the goal of getting laid.
In short, this is simply another part of the ever growing feminist hate movement, looking to blame their own weakness and shortcomings on another class of people, all while trying to disguise their hate speech with an air of moral superiority as "freedom fighters for the oppressed". Hey, if it worked for Hitler.
And here is another very recent example, of how loosely these feminists interpret "rape":
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...J-day-photo-torn-portrays-sexual-assault.html
French feminists are furious and demanding the removal of the famous Normandy peace statue, complaining that the iconic figure is depicting a RAPE in progress... even though the actual woman depicted was interviewed and claimed nothing of the sort and too was caught up in the joy of the moment.
Fact is, these feminists fanning the flames of male hatred, and the politicians trying to selfishly capitalize on this gender warfare are ruining society, and yet out of fear of being labeled a jew, I mean communi, I mean male chauvinist swine, too many normal guys tolerate it.
Yesterday, when a former member left the board permanently in disgust over misogynist comments he called her a "whiny bitch"
That these people would make these statements in a pseudo-anonymous environment leaves one to wonder just how far they'd go to have sex with a woman in private, without any witnesses to the event.
If I were to come up to your wife or daughter out of the blue and just grab and kiss her, I have a feeling that neither she nor you would think that's too cool. You don't go around grabbing and kissing random women, it is by definition sexual assault.
And I'm not saying this particular case at this particular moment was anything malicious or that the woman felt that she was being assaulted, I'm just saying that the act isn't something that should be considered ok either because it's not.
If I were to come up to your wife or daughter out of the blue and just grab and kiss her, I have a feeling that neither she nor you would think that's too cool.
Did we just end a war in which half a million of our people have died fighting against one of the most horrific and vile enemies we've ever faced? Were you a soldier celebrating that fact?
My father was a WW II veteran. If he had done this with this particular woman it wouldn't have been so iconic. Bottom line, a man doesn't go up to random woman and grab and kiss them. That's just common sense I would hope.
Bottom line, a soldier celebrating the end of the biggest war we've ever had by kissing a random woman once shouldn't be labeled with the same language we use to describe rape. That's just common sense I would hope.
You yourself recognize that the woman didn't consider it assault, so why do you think you know better?
1) People start making out all the time organically (silence, long eye contact, get closer, initiate tongue action), and if one person reads the other person wrong, you just say whoah and push them away and recoil. If it ends there, you weren't "mouth raped".A man doesn't touch a woman that doesn't ask or want to be touched. That's how I was raised and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being taught basic common sense and self-control.
But again, the real issue here to stay on topic is that the feminist movement has helped push into law something that puts the burden of proof of proving the rape accuser consented to sex at all times and wasn't "taken advantage of" while drunk.
It's not much of an issue has a little self-control and common sense. Has anyone here ever had an issue with a woman over this subject?
If I were to come up to your wife or daughter out of the blue and just grab and kiss her, I have a feeling that neither she nor you would think that's too cool. You don't go around grabbing and kissing random women, it is by definition sexual assault.[\QUOTE]
UGH. Absolutely disgusting.
You take a beautiful moment of celebration and relief and joy and turn it into an imagined sexual assault. Sickening political correctness.
The "if you disagree with me on this, then you must engage in violent criminal acts" garbage is really stupid, you know.
UGH. Absolutely disgusting.
You take a beautiful moment of celebration and relief and joy and turn it into an imagined sexual assault. Sickening political correctness.
This was just implemented. OK, lets create a hypothetical scenario here, and even if you don't think it could happen to you personally, let me know if you find this implausible.It's not much of an issue has a little self-control and common sense. Has anyone here ever had an issue with a woman over this subject?
There has been plenty of civil disagreement in this thread and no one using that mere disagreement as the basis of accusing someone of violent acts.The "if you disagree with me on this, then you must engage in violent criminal acts" garbage is really stupid, you know.
Please tell me what's wrong with believing that man shouldn't touch a woman unless he's damned sure that's what she wants? Likewise what's wrong with a woman believing that she shouldn't touch a man unless she's damned sure that's what he wants? If this is some sort of crime I'd love to now how.
There has been plenty of civil disagreement in this thread and no one using that mere disagreement as the basis of accusing someone of violent acts.
That these people would make these statements in a pseudo-anonymous environment leaves one to wonder just how far they'd go to have sex with a woman in private, without any witnesses to the event.
Depends on who it is...This was just implemented. OK, lets create a hypothetical scenario here, and even if you don't think it could happen to you personally, let me know if you find this implausible.
I'm a 19 year old freshman girl, and I meet a guy at the pool party on Saturday by my near campus apartment. I have a blast in my bikini and get a bunch of free booze and BBQ and do body shots and get loud and just have a fun time. I see some hot dude, or at least guy I think is hot after the "social lubricant" of that tequila, and give him the eye and smile. He approaches and we hit it off and he takes me back to my place upstairs. We have a wild night, and I wake up and find that not only is he not as attractive as my beer goggles led me to believe, but he's kind of a dick and then bails. Later I find out from friends he's bragging that he banged the slut from room 413. Now, I have decided that he took advantage of me while drunk and that constitutes rape, even though I didn't object at the time and he probably had drinks at the party too. He now has to show proof that he did not rape me (where is he going to come up with that), and that I wasn't drunk when my girlfriends who have my back can testify I was doing body shots and acting a fool. That guy now loses his scholarship and gets expelled, and the reason everyone in his and my circle find out is because he's a RAPIST.
Can that happen as this is written, and do you see anything wrong with that result?
So you think it's hypocrisy because you believe that saying "girls mean yes when they say no" and "we wouldn't get laid if we didn't get girls drunk first" are simple disagreements and not expressions of the same type of logic rapists use?If you're trying to ratchet up the hypocrisy to vomit-inducing level, you're well on your way. Kudos.
This was just implemented. OK, lets create a hypothetical scenario here, and even if you don't think it could happen to you personally, let me know if you find this implausible.
I'm a 19 year old freshman girl, and I meet a guy at the pool party on Saturday by my near campus apartment. I have a blast in my bikini and get a bunch of free booze and BBQ and do body shots and get loud and just have a fun time. I see some hot dude, or at least guy I think is hot after the "social lubricant" of that tequila, and give him the eye and smile. He approaches and we hit it off and he takes me back to my place upstairs. We have a wild night, and I wake up and find that not only is he not as attractive as my beer goggles led me to believe, but he's kind of a dick and then bails. Later I find out from friends he's bragging that he banged the slut from room 413. Now, I have decided that he took advantage of me while drunk and that constitutes rape, even though I didn't object at the time and he probably had drinks at the party too. He now has to show proof that he did not rape me (where is he going to come up with that), and that I wasn't drunk when my girlfriends who have my back can testify I was doing body shots and acting a fool. That guy now loses his scholarship and gets expelled, and the reason everyone in his and my circle find out is because he's a RAPIST.
Can that happen as this is written, and do you see anything wrong with that result?
Please tell me that it's possible for you to address a single incident, in which the "victim" states she was not victimized, without looking at it through the darkest fucking prism you can imagine. People need to wake up to the fact that way more often than not, they are projecting their own tints onto far less acrimonious or lurid moments. We have become an insanely paranoid, isolated culture...searching for reasons to fear other tribes.
So you think it's hypocrisy because you believe that saying "girls mean yes when they say no" and "we wouldn't get laid if we didn't get girls drunk first" are simple disagreements and not expressions of the same type of logic rapists use?