The [H]ard Forum Storage Showoff Thread - Post your 10TB+ systems

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because.. I got it for free from my work place :D
anyway it will be well populated in the next months... ;)
 
got some stuff in the mail :)

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initializing/testing

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they are 2Tb, nothing huge, but each array will be a RAID60 so 40TB each... not bad... I got them realllly cheap (much cheaper $/Tb than the 3/4+TB drives) so this will replace my other arrays, then when the larger drives drop in price I plan on taking one or two of the 16 drive units and filling it with 4TB drives when I need more space
 
FLECOM said:
they are 2Tb, nothing huge, but each array will be a RAID60 so 40TB each... not bad... I got them realllly cheap (much cheaper $/Tb than the 3/4+TB drives) so this will replace my other arrays, then when the larger drives drop in price I plan on taking one or two of the 16 drive units and filling it with 4TB drives when I need more space
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Those the 2tb white label drives you can get from goharddrive? I have some, they show up as hitachi ultrastore drives in smart. I get them for $58 a piece usually.
 
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Very good deal indeed, though I've never had luck with any Hitachi branded hdd's. Shipping would kill me.
 
Woah that's a lot of drives. Sexy!

Now the fun part of fitting them in their caddys. :p So worth it though.
 
thankfully there was another guy here last night who didn't mind helping me after hours on a personal project and we got it done in about an hour, wasn't too bad! :)
 
Matthew Kane said:
Very good deal indeed, though I've never had luck with any Hitachi branded hdd's. Shipping would kill me.
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hrmm, dunno, I've had the opposite experience, I have 1Tb hitachis from 2007 still going strong, think I've had one fail after 6 years... meanwhile I have piles of bad seagate and WD drives
 
FLECOM said:
no got them from another seller, they are OEM Ultrastars from here

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371071036410?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

got him down to $42/drive plus shipping ($97 for 50 drives in 2 boxes)

bought 50 to have 2 spares, only one DOA (and guy has a 30 day warranty), testing the other 49 to see how they are doing... they seem happy so far!
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I would check powered on time and verify you got new drives. I have bought some hitachi drives from some sellers that had 3-4 years of powered on time on them and they were not at all new.

That is definitely a good deal though.

I had all my 2 TB hitachi deskstars sitting on a fold-up table and i bumped it and one of the sides of the legs collapsed and I saw 24x2 TB drives crash to the ground. I finally got around to getting a new machine setup with them and I found that two of the drives have failed so I bought 2 of the 2TB drives from goharddrive ebay to replace them for like $65 a piece.
 
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houkouonchi said:
I would check powered on time and verify you got new drives. I have bought some hitachi drives from some sellers that had 3-4 years of powered on time on them and they were not at all new.

That is definitely a good deal though.

I had all my 2 TB hitachi deskstars sitting on a fold-up table and i bumped it and one of the sides of the legs collapsed and I saw 24x2 TB drives crash to the ground. I finally got around to getting a new machine setup with them and I found that two of the drives have failed so I bought 2 of the 2TB drives from goharddrive ebay to replace them for like $65 a piece.
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All mine have shown 1hr powered on time, perfectly in line with all the other drives I have ever purchased. I have heard of that problem before, even on name brand drives. I've always attributed it to corrupt firmware as the drives always appear physcally brand new.
 
bds1904 said:
All mine have shown 1hr powered on time, perfectly in line with all the other drives I have ever purchased. I have heard of that problem before, even on name brand drives. I've always attributed it to corrupt firmware as the drives always appear physcally brand new.
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I have bought drives that *looked* new and were sealed in anti-static bags but pretty old manufacture dates and like every drive had various amounts of run-time on them and some had re-allocated sectors. I seriously doubt it was corrupted firmware.
 
no these are pulls mostly from rackable servers it seems judging by all the labels I removed, hence the price and "Item condition: Used"
 
Still have one of my Infortrend 24 bay units in use in colo. Controller finally died a couple weeks ago, but it was replaced. Have your batteries survived this long? Mine bulged and had to be tossed long ago.
 
how does the price/GB compare when you factor in cost per drive bay (chassis, PSU, controller, etc)? I'm guessing you already had your chassis and got them very cheap, but for someone building new, I can't imagine there would be much savings vs 4TB drives when all costs are considered
 
New? Prohibitively expensive. Used? You can possibly beat a comparable server, but will be stuck with a lot of proprietary bits that can be pricey to replace on short notice.
 
Blue Fox said:
Still have one of my Infortrend 24 bay units in use in colo. Controller finally died a couple weeks ago, but it was replaced. Have your batteries survived this long? Mine bulged and had to be tossed long ago.
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no batteries, all of them are on dual UPS units

have 5 infortrend units, 3x 16 bay 2x 24 bay, so far they have been very reliable *knock on wood*
 
FLECOM said:
hrmm, dunno, I've had the opposite experience, I have 1Tb hitachis from 2007 still going strong, think I've had one fail after 6 years... meanwhile I have piles of bad seagate and WD drives
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Had a look at the link of the drives you bought again. Ultrastar's should be fine, most problems lie with Deskstar (Deathstar).
 
A lot of it is personal opinion. I used to rate Seagate and WD drives, I now use exclusively the latter as they've served me well, having so far only had a couple go wrong out of in excess of 50 purchased (and none failed unexpectedly, one developed a write issue but would still read, and I had one or two DOAs). Modern seagates I read a few scare stories, and to be honest, the 12 month warranty worries me. At least with WD Greens you get two years. They may not be very consistent with noise, load cycle count etc, but they do seem to go the distance, for me at least.
 
Blue Fox said:
That was one particular model that had issues and was nearly 15 years ago. :rolleyes:
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the 75GXP? mine still works ironically enough! I spun it up the other day... still had Windows 2000 on it LOL
 
Edel said:
10TB ? We can reach it with just 2 drives :confused: This thread needs an update
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IMO it's cheating if people just add up all the drives. Need to consider raid and the fact that 1KB = 1024 bytes.

But even then it's not that hard to reach 10 anymore. My setup is 19TB:

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Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md0              5.4T  2.3T  2.9T  45% /volumes/raid1
/dev/md1              6.3T  4.3T  1.8T  71% /volumes/raid2
/dev/md3              7.2T  179M  6.8T   1% /volumes/raid3

Eventually I need to replace all the 1TB drives in my raid 5 (called raid2) with bigger drives. :p Still have a couple spare slots in my server to expand too.
 
Edel said:
10TB ? We can reach it with just 2 drives :confused: This thread needs an update
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thread was started 5.5 years ago, if you want to post a 2 drive setup, no one is going to stop you but no one is going to care either
the point of the thread is for people to share their storage setups
just like other "post your ____" threads, there will be some systems bigger/nicer than others
 
I used to and still do enjoy coming in this thread to look at the competition (I only have 50TB...bummer) but I am getting bored with seeing all the systems that are shitty desktops with only a hand-full of drives.

Almost as much as seeing retards who keep quoting posts full of images.....

Maybe time for the 50+ TB thread or a minimum drive count like say 20+ HDD systems.
 
Lost-Benji said:
I used to and still do enjoy coming in this thread to look at the competition (I only have 50TB...bummer) but I am getting bored with seeing all the systems that are shitty desktops with only a hand-full of drives.

Almost as much as seeing retards who keep quoting posts full of images.....

Maybe time for the 50+ TB thread or a minimum drive count like say 20+ HDD systems.
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I'm in the same boat as you, both in terms of storage (also ~50TB) and the thread. I check this thread every once in a while and am often disappointed.

Occasionally there is some good stuff here, but not often.

You end up with a lot of pictures of someone in a computer room (the floor is a dead give-away) taking pics of his work stuff, to the desktop junk.

Dude who built a server room in his basement is pretty cool (doing something similar with my unused "cold room").

We need a few new "threads" to clean this one up:

1) Post a picture of your work equipment
2) Post a picture of a box containing other smaller boxes which contain hard drives.
3) Post a picture of your desktop, which you have jammed as many non-swappable drives as possible into.
 
Blue Fox said:
That was one particular model that had issues and was nearly 15 years ago. :rolleyes:
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15 years ago? I'm talking about the many Deskstar 1-2TB problems from 2011-2012. Had shit loads of problem here and people complaining about DOA drives, clicking on new drives and loads of bad sectors appearing and drives not being detected in the BIOS on our local forums. Ironically about the same time Hitachi OEM 2.5inch drives in laptops started fucking up.
 
Few people here and there complaining really doesn't give you adequate data. I have ~50 of them that I've been running for 3-4 years now and not a single failure for example. We could also go with Backblaze's study that found Hitachi drives to be the most reliable.
 
Blue Fox said:
Few people here and there complaining really doesn't give you adequate data. I have ~50 of them that I've been running for 3-4 years now and not a single failure for example. We could also go with Backblaze's study that found Hitachi drives to be the most reliable.
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My experience and what I've seen with Hitachi has been opposite to that of backblaze which is just to give you an idea not anything concrete as there are so many variables and setup's. 50 running in past 3-4 years? You must be lucky, at my last work where I was technical and warranty support dealing directly with these sort of things at least 4-6 out of a 25 batch box of new drives were failures, not to mention the customer returns within the 14 day return to base period and drives that failed within a month in new pre-builts. The failure we saw was on par with the standard Seagate LP's and WD Green drives.
 
Matthew Kane said:
My experience and what I've seen with Hitachi has been opposite to that of backblaze which is just to give you an idea not anything concrete as there are so many variables and setup's. 50 running in past 3-4 years? You must be lucky, at my last work where I was technical and warranty support dealing directly with these sort of things at least 4-6 out of a 25 batch box of new drives were failures, not to mention the customer returns within the 14 day return to base period and drives that failed within a month in new pre-builts. The failure we saw was on par with the standard Seagate LP's and WD Green drives.
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I am another 100% hitachi. In my various machines not only have none of the 74 coolspin hitachi drives failed (50x3TB, 24x4TB) but none of them even have any re-allocated sectors. These run 24/7 and the 30 oldest ones (30 are 900+ days power on time) have been doing extremely heavy disk I/O for the last 5 months (over 1 TB read and over 1 TB written per month) with absolutely 0 issues.

Here is a video of all the failed disks laying around in the cage and shows why I freaking hate seagate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcHA5riKbc
All those failed/failing seagate disks in the video are seagate and they all came out of a batch of only ~100 servers (and these had lots of failures and disks replaced before I even got them as we got them second hand from the parent company).

Also in the test lab at work I bought 200x1TB deskstar's to replace failing seagates and out of that there was one that was DoA and most of them are 1+ year in deployment and so far 0 failures.

Then there is my original 24x2TB array. I only suffered 1 legitimate failure on that (24 drives fell off a table and a 2 of them died) and those drives have a 1500+ day power on time.

I won't say hitachi is perfect but compared to seagate (especially) or even western digital they are by far the most reliable drives.

I wonder if it also happens to do with the fact that 95% of my hitachi drives I buy retail packaged so no shipping damage.
 
CSB:

I am in the same boat as Houkouonchi with the Seagates especially the 250/500GB line. We had over 100 servers with RAID 1's, with the bad batches of Seagates that replaced with Western Digitals. We spent a month visiting 3 data centers swapping out HD's, rebuilding servers, and RMA'n all drives that we could that were under warranty.

Seagate's RMA process was ridiculously cumbersome as you could only do 10 at a time and when I called to complain that I had 100 to process (100 came back clean without issue), the lady forced me to continue to the use website.

Ever since then if it goes to Prod it's Hitachi or WD.

Thankfully most of our new servers are not white box systems that come with OEM drives and if I can get those in they go.

/cbs
 
I want like 24 of those in raid 10. :D Would come up to around 110TB of usable space. I honestly don't even know what I'd do with all that, I have 19TB total between my 3 arrays and it's more than I need... for now.
 
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