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Titanfall - Respawn Entertainment's first game

You are comparing chalk with cheese, the analogy is completely misconceived and really doesn't prove anything. But to be clear, if there was a large enough player base still playing 1942 then I would still pick that over Crutchfield 4.
 
Blade-Runner said:
You are comparing chalk with cheese, the analogy is completely misconceived and really doesn't prove anything. But to be clear, if there was a large enough player base still playing 1942 then I would still pick that over Crutchfield 4.
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Like I side earlier, it's called Nostalgia. Games today are better. It's everything surrounding the games that sucks for us older gamers who remember all of the mod support, dedicated servers, etc. The main thing to remember is back then you couldn't download a 15 gig game in an hour off of some torrent site. Developers couldn't make more money off of a game than Hollywood could off of a blockbuster movie. It's all about $$$.

If you made a game and had to choose between offering mod support or to release a DLC 6 months from now for an additional $5 million in your bank account which would you choose?
 
Focker said:
Like I side earlier, it's called Nostalgia. Games today are better. It's everything surrounding the games that sucks for us older gamers who remember all of the mod support, dedicated servers, etc. The main thing to remember is back then you couldn't download a 15 gig game in an hour off of some torrent site. Developers couldn't make more money off of a game than Hollywood could off of a blockbuster movie. It's all about $$$.

If you made a game and had to choose between offering mod support or to release a DLC 6 months from now for an additional $5 million in your bank account which would you choose?
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I would say singleplayer games today are better. MP games are worse because of the money grab.
 
Blade-Runner said:
You are comparing chalk with cheese, the analogy is completely misconceived and really doesn't prove anything. But to be clear, if there was a large enough player base still playing 1942 then I would still pick that over Crutchfield 4.
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I don't even know how one can compare a video game to a consumer electronics boutique...
 
Why are people so fervently defending this crap? Save your breath. Everyone knows EA is going to pay $$$ to get good reviews and it will sell fine. If you are one of those defending 'design decisions' of Titanfall and pre-ordered the game - bugger off. You are exactly what is wrong with PC gaming now and you should feel terrible for ruining the industry.
 
Focker said:
Like I side earlier, it's called Nostalgia. Games today are better. It's everything surrounding the games that sucks for us older gamers who remember all of the mod support, dedicated servers, etc. The main thing to remember is back then you couldn't download a 15 gig game in an hour off of some torrent site. Developers couldn't make more money off of a game than Hollywood could off of a blockbuster movie. It's all about $$$.

If you made a game and had to choose between offering mod support or to release a DLC 6 months from now for an additional $5 million in your bank account which would you choose?
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Nope, games are demonstrably worse quite apart from those peripheral issues, nothing to do with nostalgia.

Multiplatform development that caters to the lowest common denominator....check.
Casualised gameplay with no skill ceiling to broaden appeal....check.
Terrible gameplay design that focuses on grinding....check.
Games not designed for longevity in mind....check.
Rehash upon rehash upon rehash....check.

And asking me what I would in a publisher's position is somewhat asinine because my motivations are not driven by the same simplistic short term profit goals. I personally believe that their DLC model is short sighted and attempts to bring forward profit to the detriment of the brand until they eventually run it into the ground, and that they would actually be better off in the long term by encouraging a thriving modding community.

And just consider the new profit opportunities created by mods, they result in new genres and innovative gameplay concepts which attract purchases from people who would have never bought the base game in the first place....e.g. Day Z, Desert Combat, Counterstrike, etc.

Besides there is no reason why mods and paid content cannot co-exist in the same ecosystem, just look at Skyrim as proof in point.
 
SilverSliver said:
Why are people so fervently defending this crap? Save your breath. Everyone knows EA is going to pay $$$ to get good reviews and it will sell fine. If you are one of those defending 'design decisions' of Titanfall and pre-ordered the game - bugger off. You are exactly what is wrong with PC gaming now and you should feel terrible for ruining the industry.
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Did you even play the beta for more than 10 minutes?


And I won't argue that I hate the DLC shitfest that all games have become...but at the same time I have fears that the bullshit is here to stay, old school PC gamers like myself are going to stay away, and PC gaming will die.

I am on the opposite end of the spectrum as you...instead of being pissy and not buying games due to the above reasons, I am going to pick and choose a few key releases, buy them, and in my mind that may keep PC gaming alive. I want 200k people to be playing this game for PC, developers to say "holy shit if we make a semi-decent game PC game people may buy it and we may make money." Not just insta-hate on everything and give it minimal chance. PC gaming is dying and it depresses me, but I want it to put up a bit of a fight.
 
SilverSliver said:
Why are people so fervently defending this crap?
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Always wonder about the degree of astroturfing in these types of threads, never see this much contention and white knighting as you do with other games which are less aggressively marketed in the lead up to release.
 
y0bailey said:
Did you even play the beta for more than 10 minutes?


And I won't argue that I hate the DLC shitfest that all games have become...but at the same time I have fears that the bullshit is here to stay, old school PC gamers like myself are going to stay away, and PC gaming will die.

I am on the opposite end of the spectrum as you...instead of being pissy and not buying games due to the above reasons, I am going to pick and choose a few key releases, buy them, and in my mind that may keep PC gaming alive. I want 200k people to be playing this game for PC, developers to say "holy shit if we make a semi-decent game PC game people may buy it and we may make money." Not just insta-hate on everything and give it minimal chance. PC gaming is dying and it depresses me, but I want it to put up a bit of a fight.
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I played 20 matches to give it a fair shot. Got to rank 11. As an experiment, I was able to come in first or second place CONSISTENTLY by avoiding players and killing bots while using my titan as basically a moving, deployable turret.

I'm not saying don't buy the game. I'm just saying wait for some real fucking reviews instead of throwing money at EA AGAIN for - potentially - a steaming pile of shit. My decision has been made unless some astoundingly good reviews come out post release from REAL review sites. I will NOT support another game that has no mods, custom servers, shitfest matchmaking, DLC whoring, etc.
 
SilverSliver said:
I'm just saying wait for some real fucking reviews instead of throwing money at EA AGAIN for - potentially - a steaming pile of shit
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sounds like another EA hater...some people won't give any game a fair shot due to their bias or hatred towards a particular publisher/developer...the Assassin's Creed series deals with the same stigma

Titanfall is fun...the retail release will be identical to the beta except with more maps, weapons, game modes etc...the reviews for the beta will mirror the final release...my only concern is will the fun last...playing for 6 days is one thing but will I get the same excitement after playing for a month or more...I'm already starting to get burnt out playing those 2 maps over and over
 
polonyc2 said:
I'm already starting to get burnt out playing those 2 maps over and over
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Because there's not much variety. If the launch has everything included that has been leaked I don't think you would feel the same about becoming bored. Not as quickly anyway.
 
polonyc2 said:
sounds like another EA hater...some people won't give any game a fair shot due to their bias or hatred towards a particular publisher/developer...the Assassin's Creed series deals with the same stigma
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There are very valid reasons to shun EA's games. You can't deny this.
 
SilverSliver said:
I played 20 matches to give it a fair shot. Got to rank 11. As an experiment, I was able to come in first or second place CONSISTENTLY by avoiding players and killing bots while using my titan as basically a moving, deployable turret.

I'm not saying don't buy the game. I'm just saying wait for some real fucking reviews instead of throwing money at EA AGAIN for - potentially - a steaming pile of shit. My decision has been made unless some astoundingly good reviews come out post release from REAL review sites. I will NOT support another game that has no mods, custom servers, shitfest matchmaking, DLC whoring, etc.
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So stop fucking posting. You've made your claim and stated your opinion. There's really no need for you to keep crusading.

What mode were you playing anyway? Attrition? Hopefully because fuck you if all you did was run around killing grunts on hardpoint. Thanks for helping the team.

I don't need to wait for reviews, that's what a demo/beta can do. I've played the game and I enjoy the core gameplay. So if we get a good release, (maps, weapons, etc) then it's worth the money, to me. Even if 2 months down the line I regret my purchase a bit it will never ever amount to the level of regret I have for wasting my money on BF4, and I got that for $30 or whatever.

You guys talk about "white knights" when all you do is bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. If someone likes a game they have every right to voice their opinion as you do for not liking it.

And stop with this EA bullshit. There might be some deals or whatever between them and Respawn (because Respawn needed a deal (EA Partners Program), being a brand new studio and all), but they have no involvement in Titanfall's development, at all.

I also wish they had private matches in the beta so we could play together and I would show you how much skill is involved by wiping the floor with you all.
 
polonyc2 said:
sounds like another EA hater...some people won't give any game a fair shot due to their bias or hatred towards a particular publisher/developer...the Assassin's Creed series deals with the same stigma
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No, it sounds like he is against pre-ordering games for which there are no actual reviews, only a demo/beta that is a tiny slice of the game content.

You cannot deny that EA has a track record of under-delivering on incredibly hyped-up titles.
 
MavericK96 said:
No, it sounds like he is against pre-ordering games for which there are no actual reviews, only a demo/beta that is a tiny slice of the game content.

You cannot deny that EA has a track record of under-delivering on incredibly hyped-up titles.
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I don't think anyone said anyone should preorder this game. I haven't preordered a game in like 5 years.
 
MavericK96 said:
No, it sounds like he is against pre-ordering games for which there are no actual reviews, only a demo/beta that is a tiny slice of the game content
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for those that like the beta I'm sure the final game will only be better...it won't be worse...reviews matter more when there's no demo...with a demo people can review the game themselves

whatever EA's track record is they still get a lot of undeserved grief...if you ignore the fact that EA is publishing Titanfall then people might actually let the game stand on its own merits...Respawn is developing the game so that is way more important then who the publisher is (EA)
 
SilverSliver said:
Why are people so fervently defending this crap? Save your breath. Everyone knows EA is going to pay $$$ to get good reviews and it will sell fine. If you are one of those defending 'design decisions' of Titanfall and pre-ordered the game - bugger off. You are exactly what is wrong with PC gaming now and you should feel terrible for ruining the industry.
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i tell ya, i just feel awful.
p.s. i bought Premium in BF3 and BF4. oh the humanity.
 
I have pretty much stopped reading and watching reviews for anything other than entertainment value. I watch gameplay videos and make the determination myself on whether to purchase a game or not. If the gameplay has commentary, I will mute it because it is nothing but noise just like the majority of online commenting. People can say and push their opinions as much as they want on other people, but it is all subjective and all that matters ultimately is what conclusions you, the consumer, comes to.

This thread is full of anti-EA, anti-Origin bigots who are trying feverishly to sway other peoples' opinions. There have been some valid criticisms sprinkled around the noise that are associable if you have actually played the game. If this game was being published by any other company out there, like Zenimax or 2K, people would probably be praising this game. But people see EA and they automatically have preconceived notions on how the game was developed with no actual insight to the process.

The fact is people will buy games they enjoy and that they have fun with, which last time I checked was the point of playing video games. If no one enjoyed playing certain video games, then people wouldn't purchase them and the market forces would push publishers to seek more of the same to keep making money. If people didn't like purchasing DLC or microtransactions, then publishers would have to reevaluate their revenue strategy. But enough people in the world do and it is the current reality of the industry. If you don't like these realities then you have the right to not purchase video games from certain publishers. You can hope that there are enough people out there that share your opinion and do the same so things change, but you're not going to sway others' opinions by crusading in an online forum.

I, for one, have not had so much fun playing a video game since I can't even remember, and this will be a day one purchase for me.
 
PC gamers are a strange lot. Seems like every game is either the greatest thing since Doom or the worst thing since Big Rigs.

I simply think it's "OK." Not great, not horrible. It's a little consolized...but what isn't? That's a fact of life for the moment.
 
I think the majority opinion seems to be that it's "okay, not great, not horrible". There are of course people at both extreme ends of the spectrum, but it doesn't seem like the majority of people are hating the game, only questioning whether or not it's worth a $60 purchase.
 
There are plenty of very legitimate criticisms about EA but throwing down blanket statements for all games published by them regardless of who is developing it (Respawn in this case) and especially in this case since there are a decent number who tried it (for free), and liked it, does make some of the people in this thread seem very bigoted.
 
I want to see how they integrate the wildlife into the game. I think it's going to be a blast if they wildlife hunts you while you hunt other players / Titans.
 
kuhla said:
If I buy this game, sort of on the fence at the moment, it will be because of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njx52OcMKWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auoSIiPP9Lw

I really enjoy movement like that.
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that's actually the way you're supposed to play the game...constant wallclimbing with your feet barely hitting the ground...the people that are complaining about the gameplay are most likely playing it as a typical FPS like CoD...the game is unique if you allow it to be
 
It's a generic COD-like shooter with a gimmick that seems to get old rather quickly. Awesome? No. Horrible? No. Probably decent? Yea. $60? Not a fucking chance.
 
cageymaru said:
I want to see how they integrate the wildlife into the game. I think it's going to be a blast if they wildlife hunts you while you hunt other players / Titans.
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I heard somewhere that the wildlife was going to be in the backdrop only, not interactive with players. Not sure where that information came from, though...I'll try to find it.

EDIT: Oh, okay, so it's a little of both apparently, according to this article:

Some monsters "will walk or fly around levels harmlessly until people interfere. Others will attack when you just stare at them." The massive leviathans, it seems, won't enter the combat area.
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Porter_ said:
i tell ya, i just feel awful.
p.s. i bought Premium in BF3 and BF4. oh the humanity.
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Same attitude that Politicians have when they do insider trading that makes them rich and impoverishes others. Same attitude companies have when they choose cheaper materials that have toxic chemicals in them to save a penny. Same attitude that lets the world go to hell.

You're free to do so, just don't go making a thread like this after the fact and expecting sympathy. Or think that people will respect your opinion for supporting multi-billion dollar companies that don't give a **** about you.
 
no my attitude is that i'm willing to preorder games and/or pay for DLC because it's worth it to me as a consumer. i had the same stance back when i preordred Resident Evil 2 for the Playstation, or when i bought Battlefield 2 Special Forces on PC. i feel it's a bit drama queen-ish to say things like "you should feel terrible for ruining the industry" when it comes to things like this.
 
polonyc2 said:
that's actually the way you're supposed to play the game...constant wallclimbing with your feet barely hitting the ground...the people that are complaining about the gameplay are most likely playing it as a typical FPS like CoD...the game is unique if you allow it to be
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Yeah, after all that jumping around, the player didn't find a single enemy in his path, just to shoot a bot at the end. :rolleyes:
 
WorldExclusive said:
Yeah, after all that jumping around, the player didn't find a single enemy in his path, just to shoot a bot at the end. :rolleyes:
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Assuming you're talking about the first video and not the 7min second one, cause I didn't watch that one.

Now with the first video you see one of the great things about this game. The player creatively moves around avoiding the titans and makes it to the B capture point. All while never touching the ground (which is kinda the point). The bot is there "guarding" the point, but it's not the players fault that there is no human player guarding their point.

The players entire objective was to get to point B, not to kill enemies, or bots or titans. Get to the point, clear it, capture, then either defend or move on. I would say he succeeded.
 
The bots suck. I dont like it.
I'm telling you, its a limitation because they are also putting this game on 360.
TF2 will be much better, not cross generation trash, and will definitely be more than 6 vs 6.
This game is fun, I played 15 hours of this beta, but it has not sold me on the game. TF2 is probably like what I am looking for.

The "Believe the Hype" advertisements are pathetic. It's a good game, but the last thing it does is meet the retarded hype the games media has been pushing since e3.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
The bots suck. I dont like it.
I'm telling you, its a limitation because they are also putting this game on 360.
TF2 will be much better, not cross generation trash, and will definitely be more than 6 vs 6.
This game is fun, I played 15 hours of this beta, but it has not sold me on the game. TF2 is probably like what I am looking for.

The "Believe the Hype" advertisements are pathetic. It's a good game, but the last thing it does is meet the retarded hype the games media has been pushing since e3.
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I'm confused how you spend 15 hours playing something but don't like it. To me that's a lot of time to invest.

Your logic for the 6v6 is also bullshit because BF3 was 12v12 (right?) and it ran on the last gen using a more demanding and newer engine. Titanfall runs on modified(heavily I guess) Source engine which is really quite old.

I think they could've done more players easily but again, it wasn't the game they wanted to make.
 
Dallows said:
I'm confused how you spend 15 hours playing something but don't like it. To me that's a lot of time to invest.

Your logic for the 6v6 is also bullshit because BF3 was 12v12 (right?) and it ran on the last gen using a more demanding and newer engine. Titanfall runs on modified(heavily I guess) Source engine which is really quite old.
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My logic is bullshit? Tell me, what computational power is necessary for the bots? None?
BTW, you missed everything I said because you would rather reply with a snarky "bullshit" reply. 15 hours is nothing on a holiday weekend.

WTF is wrong with some of you? Can't even state an opinion in here without someone ready to say you are lying or some other stupid shit.
Yes I played 15 hours, in fact I may even play some more today. No it does not meet the hype and its not worth $60 to me. Is it still fun? A little.
 
Dallows said:
Assuming you're talking about the first video and not the 7min second one, cause I didn't watch that one.

Now with the first video you see one of the great things about this game. The player creatively moves around avoiding the titans and makes it to the B capture point. All while never touching the ground (which is kinda the point). The bot is there "guarding" the point, but it's not the players fault that there is no human player guarding their point.

The players entire objective was to get to point B, not to kill enemies, or bots or titans. Get to the point, clear it, capture, then either defend or move on. I would say he succeeded.
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ok I just saw three more of his videos.

That's the way to play the game I see. But until others see this play style, it's going to be a little unbalanced in favor of those who play like that for a while.
I'm going to hold off hammering on this game until release. Let's see if the Titans will have some purpose then.

Great videos though.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
My logic is bullshit? Tell me, what computational power is necessary for the bots? None?
BTW, you missed everything I said because you would rather reply with a snarky "bullshit" reply. 15 hours is nothing on a holiday weekend.

WTF is wrong with some of you? Can't even state an opinion in here without someone ready to say you are lying or some other stupid shit.
Yes I played 15 hours, in fact I may even play some more today. No it does not meet the hype and its not worth $60 to me. Is it still fun? A little.
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They bought Xbox Ones and are now desperately trying to push the game on PC because it's the only game for their console.

:D
 
I guess the game will be successful for the COD crowd, other than that it really isn't anything special. As people get better at the game I am sure there'll be interesting varied gameplay, but I don't think by anything astounding. Just as the RPS review puts it, the game isn't very meaningful - in terms of compelling combat. For a 6 v 6 type of game, the game would be better off in the hands of a studio like Turtle Rock and without the bot grind. Their style, as seen from the L4D franchise, offers unforgiving gameplay which is extremely satisfying and rewarding for those who have built competence and can work with others as a team. But you know, that style of gameplay just doesn't appeal to the COD type gamers.
 
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LeviathanZERO said:
My logic is bullshit? Tell me, what computational power is necessary for the bots? None?
BTW, you missed everything I said because you would rather reply with a snarky "bullshit" reply. 15 hours is nothing on a holiday weekend.
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My reply wasn't as much bullshit as yours. You seem to indicate (using poor formatting and grammar) that the 6v6 is there because of the xbox 360, which is not true at all. I cited BF3 because it's a more demanding engine than source (which is old) and they did 12v12 on the last gen consoles with larger maps and vehicles and shit. Did they not?

So how could 6v6 be a limitation when they're using such an old engine? Makes no sense.

WTF is wrong with some of you? Can't even state an opinion in here without someone ready to say you are lying or some other stupid shit.
Yes I played 15 hours, in fact I may even play some more today. No it does not meet the hype and its not worth $60 to me. Is it still fun? A little.
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? Can't even say you like a game on this forum without someone jumping down your throat saying how you're the downfall of gaming. Please.
 
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