290/290x availability thread

I think the MSI gamer 290 is still around on amazon for sub-500$ prices, but I haven't seen any website reviews of it. Which is odd, because MSI usually sends all of their stuff out prior to release.
 
The lack of reviews for the MSI Gamer R9 290 is very discouraging. I still think it's a ruse by Amazon to get preorders for cards that are eventually going to sell for $US40-90 cheaper than the 'special' price they are charging whilst availability is fubar. :/

My prediction skills with the R9 are legendarily poor though. Never before have I seen such video card price gouging shenanigans!
 
Excessionoz said:
The lack of reviews for the MSI Gamer R9 290 is very discouraging. I still think it's a ruse by Amazon to get preorders for cards that are eventually going to sell for $US40-90 cheaper than the 'special' price they are charging whilst availability is fubar. :/

My prediction skills with the R9 are legendarily poor though. Never before have I seen such video card price gouging shenanigans!
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you realize that they don't charge the card till it ships and there is a window for found cheaper elsewhere. Lock in at that price and if cheaper comes up simply cancel the order. I've locked in preorders for so many different cards. I can easily cancel orders when I get a ship date.
 
SpeedyVV said:
:p Good one.
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The best part is I ordered them in sets of 2 so I could possibly charge a service fee and have amazon ship to people I sell them to or easily change quantities of my preorder once I get firm ship dates. That's IF I decide not to mine on them myself. I don't expect them to be available for at least a month and if I start setting my earnings aside now I could do a massive upgrade on my hashrate/watt by dumping some older cards. My father in law is actually going to let me build the second revision of my rack in his basement that is in a room right next to the circuit box so I'll be able to easily add a pair of 240v circuits. I'm kicking myself for not going 240 in mine and with these new risers I'm certainly going to build differently.
 
yergg said:
Not sure if anyone saw this, but it looks like Asus Direct CU II R9 290 in stock at Newegg....for a premium. :(

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121842
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Finally posted, one week later than Amazon but at least they have stock. I ordered from Amazon at $440 the morning they posted it but have yet to get a ship date. Hopefully this means Amazon will get stock soon or Newegg is just a favorite of the supplier, wouldn't surprise me.
 
It's so funny to see newegg and all these high priced etailers nearly ALWAYS have these in stock. Hopefully people are getting fed up with this ridiculous mark up and waiting for the prices to come down. Newegg has almost...every non reference r9 290 in stock...lol.
 
Ikasu said:
It's so funny to see newegg and all these high priced etailers nearly ALWAYS have these in stock. Hopefully people are getting fed up with this ridiculous mark up and waiting for the prices to come down. Newegg has almost...every non reference r9 290 in stock...lol.
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Considering AMD has increased the MSRP of the 290 to $499, you can wait all you want, it still wont be worth it unless you mine.
 
Sodapopjones said:
Considering AMD has increased the MSRP of the 290 to $499, you can wait all you want, it still wont be worth it unless you mine.
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without a real reference I'll pass on believing that. The only place I've seen MSRP being bumped up is in an article here that could have just been a typo. got any additional sources?
 
mkrohn said:
without a real reference I'll pass on believing that. The only place I've seen MSRP being bumped up is in an article here that could have just been a typo. got any additional sources?
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Yeah I tried posting it as news elsewhere citing HardOCP's article and nobody bought it.
If AMD actually raised their MSRP the news would be spreading like wildfire.

Also there are still 290's available for less than $499. I guess those are officially "on sale".
 
Are these ever going to come back down to msrp? I should have jumped on the R9 290s when they first arrived.

Edit: Maybe I should wait until new cards. Sigh.
 
I wouldnt expect them to go down in price for the next 3-5 months. At that point the miners will have all the hashrate they can afford.... I think :)
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Yeah I tried posting it as news elsewhere citing HardOCP's article and nobody bought it.
If AMD actually raised their MSRP the news would be spreading like wildfire.

Also there are still 290's available for less than $499. I guess those are officially "on sale".
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Well, on the other hand, that's exactly what AMD did with the 5870 (raised the MSRP) and that news wasn't exactly widespread. The MSRP increased and everyone assumed it was retailers gouging, which it was initially because of super high demand (and the card was priced incredibly well), but the MSRP raised later on and AMD later stated that the release MSRP was "special introductory pricing". So, essentially, the raised MSRP for the 5870 was simply assumed to be gouging when it was in fact a raised MSRP. (this was a few months after release..)

I'm not saying that happened again, but it's plausible. AMD didn't get questioned about a raised MSRP in the case of the 5870, but it definitely happened. And most people didn't know about the raised MSRP.

In the case of the 5870, the demand was mostly gamers and the GTX 480 wasn't released for some 6 months after the 5870. And the 5870 was much better than the GTX 280/285. On the other hand, the mining induced pricing for the 290/290X is a much different and shittier situation. For the 5870 gamers created demand. For the 290, non gamers are creating demand when the card was designed for gaming. Which for gamers that like Radeon, is probably a shitty situation for them. Which I personally think is pretty retarded, but whatever. AMD will take the money however they can, so, yeah.

edit: The article for the GB 780 Ghz does mention that AMD "provided" 499.99 as the MSRP for the R9-290 just as the article was published. And Kyle from what I understand went through to correct for errors, and if that was an error I'd assume he would have corrected it, but in any case. Did anyone ask the man himself?
 
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xoleras said:
Well, on the other hand, that's exactly what AMD did with the 5870 (raised the MSRP) and that news wasn't exactly widespread. The MSRP increased and everyone assumed it was retailers gouging, which it was initially because of super high demand (and the card was priced incredibly well), but the MSRP raised later on and AMD later stated that the release MSRP was "special introductory pricing". So, essentially, the raised MSRP for the 5870 was simply assumed to be gouging when it was in fact a raised MSRP. (this was a few months after release..)

I'm not saying that happened again, but it's plausible. AMD didn't get questioned about a raised MSRP in the case of the 5870, but it definitely happened. And most people didn't know about the raised MSRP.

In the case of the 5870, the demand was mostly gamers and the GTX 480 wasn't released for some 6 months after the 5870. And the 5870 was much better than the GTX 280/285. On the other hand, the mining induced pricing for the 290/290X is a much different and shittier situation. For the 5870 gamers created demand. For the 290, non gamers are creating demand when the card was designed for gaming. Which for gamers that like Radeon, is probably a shitty situation for them. Which I personally think is pretty retarded, but whatever. AMD will take the money however they can, so, yeah.

edit: The article for the GB 780 Ghz does mention that AMD "provided" 499.99 as the MSRP for the R9-290 just as the article was published. And Kyle from what I understand went through to correct for errors, and if that was an error I'd assume he would have corrected it, but in any case. Did anyone ask the man himself?
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I emailed the article writer days ago but never heard back
 
I dont think the R9 290 msrp has been changed to $500.

I have been in close contact with a vendor in California, and they told it me it's the OEM's that are raising the cost. My first two visiontek r9 290's are coming @ $386 each ($399 msrp) and they raised it to $444 each for my 2nd set ("$449 msrp" i suppose)

if the new msrp is $500, surely they wouldnt be selling them for $444
 
How can it matter what you 'think' when the minimum price on R9 290 cards 'at the major resellers' is now $US499 when MSRP used to be $399?

Whatever the "reasons" for R9 290 cards being more expensive, they ARE more expensive. No ifs ands or buts.

Facts trump 'I thinks'. Always.
 
Excessionoz said:
How can it matter what you 'think' when the minimum price on R9 290 cards 'at the major resellers' is now $US499 when MSRP used to be $399?

Whatever the "reasons" for R9 290 cards being more expensive, they ARE more expensive. No ifs ands or buts.

Facts trump 'I thinks'. Always.
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Well, this is unnecessary combative. What price the sellers are selling the cards at is not a "fact" that proves the MSRP has been raised....it could just mean that retailers are selling the cards above MSRP, same as always. :/
 
Damn, I should have bought the one custom 290 I saw pop up @ $510. :(

I suppose I will be going mad now playing the waiting game.
 
MTRougeau said:
Well, this is unnecessary combative. What price the sellers are selling the cards at is not a "fact" that proves the MSRP has been raised :/
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My point wasn't to be 'combative'.

It was that your stance of 'something something something something, I dunno if X is true' is boneheaded when you compare the original advertised MSRP of $US399, with any price from the last 10 weeks, anywhere.

Sure, you can 'think' what you like, there is no great sin there, but when you're peeing the face of -massive- evidence to the contrary, then you deserve to be asked to stop drinking the kool-aid and rejoin normal society.

I'm sure that you think this, too, is unnecessary, since you took umbrage at my first attempt; an attempt at clarification.

As someone who is intensely interested in acquiring an R9 290 for MSRP or less ($US399), it annoys me that the price is still inflated NO MATTER WHAT THE CAUSE, be that AMD raising the price, resellers gouging, or *coin miners buying anything AMD with "as much as it costs" attitudes, on the hope of cashing in on the mining bubble.

I want a video card to game with, not to mine with, and I don't want to pay the Nvidia Tax, and I certainly don't want to give the resellers their "free" $US100.

Which is to say, seriously, I wish AMD would announce their MSRP publicly, again, so that it could be verified, either way, whether the resellers were gouging or not. To "hope" that they didn't raise RRP to $US499 is illogical in the face of the past 10 weeks of pricing on NewEgg and Amazon.

Hope you see my point a little clearer now.
 
if the MSRP were to be officially raised and suddenly stores would have the 290 in stock all over the place I guess I'd go ahead and buy a stack of reference 290's. I'm probably just gonna end up buying a stack of them anyway.
 
Excessionoz said:
My point wasn't to be 'combative'.

It was that your stance of 'something something something something, I dunno if X is true' is boneheaded when you compare the original advertised MSRP of $US399, with any price from the last 10 weeks, anywhere.

Sure, you can 'think' what you like, there is no great sin there, but when you're peeing the face of -massive- evidence to the contrary, then you deserve to be asked to stop drinking the kool-aid and rejoin normal society.

I'm sure that you think this, too, is unnecessary, since you took umbrage at my first attempt; an attempt at clarification.

As someone who is intensely interested in acquiring an R9 290 for MSRP or less ($US399), it annoys me that the price is still inflated NO MATTER WHAT THE CAUSE, be that AMD raising the price, resellers gouging, or *coin miners buying anything AMD with "as much as it costs" attitudes, on the hope of cashing in on the mining bubble.

I want a video card to game with, not to mine with, and I don't want to pay the Nvidia Tax, and I certainly don't want to give the resellers their "free" $US100.

Which is to say, seriously, I wish AMD would announce their MSRP publicly, again, so that it could be verified, either way, whether the resellers were gouging or not. To "hope" that they didn't raise RRP to $US499 is illogical in the face of the past 10 weeks of pricing on NewEgg and Amazon.

Hope you see my point a little clearer now.
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Relax. AMD already announced the MSRP. Why the fuk would they announce it again? It's $399.99. I just picked up two from amazon for $399 each (+ tax) TODAY.
 
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Excessionoz said:
My point wasn't to be 'combative'.

It was that your stance of 'something something something something, I dunno if X is true' is boneheaded when you compare the original advertised MSRP of $US399, with any price from the last 10 weeks, anywhere.

Sure, you can 'think' what you like, there is no great sin there, but when you're peeing the face of -massive- evidence to the contrary, then you deserve to be asked to stop drinking the kool-aid and rejoin normal society.

I'm sure that you think this, too, is unnecessary, since you took umbrage at my first attempt; an attempt at clarification.

As someone who is intensely interested in acquiring an R9 290 for MSRP or less ($US399), it annoys me that the price is still inflated NO MATTER WHAT THE CAUSE, be that AMD raising the price, resellers gouging, or *coin miners buying anything AMD with "as much as it costs" attitudes, on the hope of cashing in on the mining bubble.

I want a video card to game with, not to mine with, and I don't want to pay the Nvidia Tax, and I certainly don't want to give the resellers their "free" $US100.

Which is to say, seriously, I wish AMD would announce their MSRP publicly, again, so that it could be verified, either way, whether the resellers were gouging or not. To "hope" that they didn't raise RRP to $US499 is illogical in the face of the past 10 weeks of pricing on NewEgg and Amazon.

Hope you see my point a little clearer now.
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So, first off, I'm not the person who originally posted the "I think..." post. I'm just defending the guy. Second: "It was that your stance of 'something something something something, I dunno if X is true' is boneheaded when you compare the original advertised MSRP of $US399, with any price from the last 10 weeks, anywhere." - Look 2 posts above your last post (or one above this one) for proof that the a 290 went for $399 TODAY.
 
How come none of the Availability Thread posts have -links- to these mythical $US399 R9 290's?

The lowest advertised price Amazon has for R9 290 is $US469.

Oh, I can guess why, and it's all to do with deceit and dishonesty. Get back to us with some evidence, and/or keep your vacuous lies to yourself.
 
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