seanclayton
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No softwares outside of DRM SteamOS. Which is why this is a one-function OS: to play Steam games.
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If they go windows they can make a name for themselves
1. Where are you getting that SteamOS is going to be locked and proprietary?
2. "Windows is open enough at this time" <- key words right there.
It would be neat if Valve will allow third party developers who don't yet release on Steam, like Blizzard, to run on SteamOS. It would be a free alt to "Windows only Games" or some bullshit.
nice interview with Gabe Newell - "I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space" - not awesome for Blizzard either— Rob Pardo (@Rob_Pardo)
I suspect so, assuming they keep the existing facilities for adding non-Steam games.I wonder if you'll be able to install other game son SteamOS and not just steam-games. Like for example, games that aren't on steam.
Certainly a possibility, especially since Blizzard's Exec VP of game design indicated a long time ago the company wasn't happy with the direction MS was taking Windows in 8.
Certainly a possibility, especially since Blizzard's Exec VP of game design indicated a long time ago the company wasn't happy with the direction MS was taking Windows in 8.
No softwares outside of DRM SteamOS. Which is why this is a one-function OS: to play Steam games.
Poor Blizzard only sold ~18 million copies of their Diablo game since Windows 8 is definitely (FACTS!) a closed system.
An operating system? Yawn. I can't think anything less relevant or practicable for me.
Soooo... like... i'm just gonna say that a collaboration between Valve and Blizzard would be neat. I didn't know about the things the Blizzard VP said about MS/Win 8. But I knew Gaben was upset about all of it.
I mean, it's somewhat unlikely that Valve would release a completely free (however downsized/stripped down it may actually be) OS devoted to playing Steam Games, and not have some sort of DRM/Content Management thing going on.
As for the whole making monies thing... having an exclusive title makes sense. How else are you going to entice the PC-gamers to dual-boot or single-boot SteamOS? Sell them H/W they either already have or have a more powerful system? Who in their right mind would build a gaming rig, THEN a $xx/$xxx Steam H/W set unless it offered them something they didn't already have. How're they gonna make them bennies, ya know?
This.
Seems like a fix for a problem I don't have.
Then you are not [H]
Nice straw man argument, but imma overlook the absurdity of it for a moment. Put yourself in Valve's shoes -- if MS is heading in the *direction* of closed - then while no they are not yet fully closed today, does a CEO that needs to plan for the future and think in 5 and 10 year plans simply put his head in the sand and "hope for the best"? Is that what you would do?
This.
Seems like a fix for a problem I don't have.
Nobody knew they needed to ride a horse until someone rode past them on one. Nobody needed a train until it delivered food from hundreds of miles away in less than a day. Car? What imbecile thought of that I bet someone in the 1800's said when the idea was proposed. I bet the Wright brothers had a whole sea of people at their plane launches to see the idiots crash and burn.
Don't knock new ideas as unwanted as you may find a use for them in the future.
There's nothing closed about it.
Planning for hypotheticals can be a good thing, but Blizzard doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to commenting about closed platforms (which actually exist right now, not some hypothetical Windows 11 vertical integrated conspiracy theory). Nor does Valve.
These guys don't want Microsoft to have an integrated app platform, that's it. I can understand why they don't want it, but pretending it's a "closed" system issue is far from true.
There's nothing closed about it.
Planning for hypotheticals can be a good thing, but Blizzard doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to commenting about closed platforms (which actually exist right now, not some hypothetical Windows 11 vertical integrated conspiracy theory). Nor does Valve.
These guys don't want Microsoft to have an integrated app platform, that's it. I can understand why they don't want it, but pretending it's a "closed" system issue is far from true.
This wasn't designed to solve our problems. We're mostly competent people: we can get a Windows-based gaming PC working well enough in the living room. Some of us have had to edit autoexec.bat to get games running, so by comparison, that's nothing.But this... what problem is being solved by this? Compared to the inherent problems that linux brings to the table...
Uh... did you forget a /s?
Because I'm pretty sure all of those things solved a problem (efficient/fast/safe transportation, not necessarily in that order).
Lost me. Explain.
My point is; In your examples of cars, trains etc, there was a problem to solve: transportation.
But with this new Valve OS, what's the problem it's solving? What about PC gaming on Windows does this improve on? What inefficiencies does it iron out? What will be BETTER, not just different?
My point is; In your examples of cars, trains etc, there was a problem to solve: transportation.
But with this new Valve OS, what's the problem it's solving? What about PC gaming on Windows does this improve on? What inefficiencies does it iron out? What will be BETTER, not just different?
My point is; In your examples of cars, trains etc, there was a problem to solve: transportation.
But with this new Valve OS, what's the problem it's solving? What about PC gaming on Windows does this improve on? What inefficiencies does it iron out? What will be BETTER, not just different?
No offense but you're all over the place. Neither of them made any specific statement about Windows8 being a "closed" system. You brought that word up. And who decided what Valve or Blizzard should or shouldn't be commenting on? Newell simply said "Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space" and Pardo said "not awesome for Blizzard either". Make of that what you will.
I don't know if I'm rehashing what has already been said earlier, so I apologize if I do.My point is; In your examples of cars, trains etc, there was a problem to solve: transportation.
But with this new Valve OS, what's the problem it's solving? What about PC gaming on Windows does this improve on? What inefficiencies does it iron out? What will be BETTER, not just different?
My point is; In your examples of cars, trains etc, there was a problem to solve: transportation.
But with this new Valve OS, what's the problem it's solving? What about PC gaming on Windows does this improve on? What inefficiencies does it iron out? What will be BETTER, not just different?
Will SteamOS be available for public download or is this an OEM only release?
Will SteamOS be available for public download or is this an OEM only release?
Steam is coming to a new operating system
As we’ve been working on bringing Steam to the living room, we’ve come to the conclusion that the
environment best suited to delivering value to customers is an operating system built around Steam itself.
SteamOS combines the rock-solid architecture of Linux with a gaming experience built for the big screen.
It will be available soon as a free stand-alone operating system for living room machines.
Downloadable soon. Free forever!
SteamOS will be available soon as a free download for users and as a freely licensable operating system for manufacturers. Stay tuned in the coming days for more information.