Now that it's been said and done....

Now that it's been said and done...

  • Haswell has delivered

    Votes: 27 14.3%

  • Haswell has disappointed me

    Votes: 91 48.1%

  • On the fence about Haswell

    Votes: 51 27.0%

  • Haven't followed it, could care less

    Votes: 20 10.6%
  • Total voters
    189
Not getting one now... I'll stick with my 920 for a few more years I guess (doubt IB-E will be much appealing either).
 
Going to stick with my i5 750 for now. Haswell is just not enough upgrade for me yet.
 
Not too early given the review from the Chinese site a couple months back was pretty much the exact engineering sample most reviews seem to be circulating around. Can't see the retail product offering anything major that would push people on the fence over.

Desktop enthusiasts have pretty much known Broadwell would be a flop focusing more on redesigned iGPU, new die-shrink, and the official Intel mainstream SoC. Haswell was pumped up to be the part that'll offer both CPU and iGPU enhancements and so far those CPU enhancements haven't really delivered.

I made the mistake of holding off a build for over a year when in reality I should have just picked up SB i7-2600K when they were available and having deals. Oh well, you live and learn. At least people who saved up for a possible build have a ton of money to throw at some other part they've been considering. Nothing to see here. Broadwell has no traction, but who knows the lack of interest could cause Intel to redouble their efforts and it surprises us. The way things are going Skylake wont be doing much either.

/doom and gloom

I think I'm just done following CPU news for awhile. Riding the Intel Hype train for the past few years has just been exhausting and thanks to the mobile market and iGPU it's leaving many of us disappointed. No point in continuing that bad habit until we finally see them try and impress us. Vote with your money, by something else you've wanted if you're not happy.
 
The desktop parts aren't particularly interesting IMHO. Not enough performance improvement to justify upgrading my IB workstation. Definitely not going to replace my SB-E lab machine with a Haswell heart. I doubt I'd upgrade from SB. Might warrant retiring those old 920s, though.

The mobile side is intriguing, though. I'm due for a new laptop and had been leaning towards an APU-based system since I do some light gaming on that, but I think I'll now wait and see what the lower- to mid-range mobile Haswell chips can do - and whether they'd be worth the premium.

Also, it's could not care less. Could care less implies that you care.
 
It's pretty much where I expected it to be - ~10% faster than IB, overclocks about the same (give or take). Of course I was *hoping* for more, but I wasn't really expecting more than this. I'll be happy to finally retire my AMD system and get my first Intel CPU since 1997, and the second Intel desktop CPU in my entire life (the only other one being a Pentium-133 in 1997).
 
Absolute disappointment. It runs hot as hell, overclocks like a dog, and is hardly and upgrade for 99.99% of us.

I should have bought an i7 2600k the day it came out..

(Not surprised but I am upset)
 
Liger88 said:
Not too early given the review from the Chinese site a couple months back was pretty much the exact engineering sample most reviews seem to be circulating around. Can't see the retail product offering anything major that would push people on the fence over.

Desktop enthusiasts have pretty much known Broadwell would be a flop focusing more on redesigned iGPU, new die-shrink, and the official Intel mainstream SoC. Haswell was pumped up to be the part that'll offer both CPU and iGPU enhancements and so far those CPU enhancements haven't really delivered.

I made the mistake of holding off a build for over a year when in reality I should have just picked up SB i7-2600K when they were available and having deals. Oh well, you live and learn. At least people who saved up for a possible build have a ton of money to throw at some other part they've been considering. Nothing to see here. Broadwell has no traction, but who knows the lack of interest could cause Intel to redouble their efforts and it surprises us. The way things are going Skylake wont be doing much either.

/doom and gloom

I think I'm just done following CPU news for awhile. Riding the Intel Hype train for the past few years has just been exhausting and thanks to the mobile market and iGPU it's leaving many of us disappointed. No point in continuing that bad habit until we finally see them try and impress us. Vote with your money, by something else you've wanted if you're not happy.
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I would have written what this smart man wrote if I weren't on a crappy ipad SoC tablet.
 
What are the chances of Xenon chips being better? I really just want an 8 or 10 core to upgrade from 6 core Gulftown.

When can we expect an X 78 chipset?
 
The only thing bad about it is the crappy thermals.
Still haven't decided whether I want to keep the Sabertooth Z77 + 3770K setups I got earlier this week or switch to Haswell.
 
The mobile scene will decide whether Haswell is a success or failure. Judging purely by desktop enthusiast standards, it has objectively failed to deliver sufficient value/$.
 
I will be getting this, and intel's overclockers warranty for 30 bucks, and we will see what it can "really" do.
 
I'm going to upgrade my laptop when the mobile chips are released. There's no reason for me to upgrade my desktop from Ivy Bridge.
 
For desktop application that I would assume most of the community here would be using it for it's a big disappointment. Poor overclocking, INCREASED power consumption when that was supposedly the selling point, and nothing too exciting for increased performance has me declaring this a stinker.

Unfortunately my x58 board is failing me so i'll be forced to upgrade soon but when i'm seriously debating going with an older chipset when money isn't even a factor in the decision they obviously have screwed the pooch for what i'm looking for as a consumer.

This has just been a super disappointing week in technology between this and the NVIDIA cards.
 
I guess I will be sticking with my current setups for sometime. If I do buy into Haswell it will be for playing around with and more than likely sell off after...ijdk at this time i will just wait and see...:confused:
 
Disappointed. Just going to get an IB-E chip on LGA2011 now whenever I have the money. No reason to go LGA1150, especially when Haswell-E will be on LGA2011.
 
Voted last since the option I would have picked "Curious but not getting one".
I'm curious how it'll handle but I'll be happy with my processor for a few more years.
And not vendor reviews, actual consumers doing them.
 
Intel feels no pressure. Increase performance a bit & still the king by a mile. I think Haswell is overall disappointing.

I really hope AMD comes out of nowhere.
 
It did what I expected.

Not what I hoped, but we all knew from the get-go that haswell was going to be mobile-focused.
 
What would be interesting is a poll on how long folks have been using their current CPU.

I remember a time I was upgrading every 6-8 months.

Now its more like every 6 years. Intel and AMD (though I think AMD have cottoned on to this) must be concerned that folks just arent bothering to snap up the latest and greatest like they were say 10 years ago.

Why do they bother in a lot of cases.
 
daglesj said:
What would be interesting is a poll on how long folks have been using their current CPU.

I remember a time I was upgrading every 6-8 months.

Now its more like every 6 years. Intel and AMD (though I think AMD have cottoned on to this) must be concerned that folks just arent bothering to snap up the latest and greatest like they were say 10 years ago.

Why do they bother in a lot of cases.
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Yup its been 4 years for me which is a new personal record.
 
I say it's a success!

The processor offers a nice performance boost, along with potential improvements in the future (AVX2 + FMA3).

The HD 4600 present on the vast majority of Intel's mobile chips offers similar performance to AMD's best mobile part:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Intel-HD-Graphics-4600.93188.0.html

The GT3e, while not as fast as a GTX 650M, does manage to decimate anything integrated on the AMD side. And it's not far behind the GTX 650 either!

And Intel's promised 50% longer battery life? Well, we're seeing it so far in this one review:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/01/msi-gt70-dragon-edition-review/

Same notebook chassis/battery, similar hardware, just a Haswell swap...and the battery life jumped from 2:49 to 4:34! I'd like to see more tests before calling it a sure thing, and I'm sure the figure only holds for when the system is moderately loaded (web, video, office), but this is a good indicator.

Will I buy one to replace my 2500K? Hell no! But I am not craving more performance at this point - my processor is stock, so if I ever need more it's there waiting. But this is definitely interesting if I buy a notebook in the next year.
 
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daglesj said:
Intel and AMD (though I think AMD have cottoned on to this) must be concerned that folks just arent bothering to snap up the latest and greatest like they were say 10 years ago.
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They make very little from the enthusiast market, so I doubt they care. Average Joe users buy a new computer whenever the whim strikes or whenever they've installed too much malware, not when there are efficient performance gains per dollar.

I'm honestly surprised at how many people around here seem dismayed that Haswell isn't some 25% IPC boost and a 10% max clock boost over previous architecture. That doesn't happen these days.
 
Battery life++ and graphics that trade blows with an AMD A10. I'd say it delivered. I didn't expect much on the CPU side though, which I guess is why I'm not disappointed.
 
I'm completely bummed...Considering just building a 3930k or 3770k system atm since I can get it cheaper. Money isn't really the issue here, but jesus christ those temps are abysmal. Considering I'm planning to overclock, it looks ivybridge is a better option in terms of heat.

Unless I delid...But going to wait and see how those results come up from others before I make the plunge. Overall though, disappointed...
 
NKDietrich said:
They make very little from the enthusiast market, so I doubt they care. Average Joe users buy a new computer whenever the whim strikes or whenever they've installed too much malware, not when there are efficient performance gains per dollar.

I'm honestly surprised at how many people around here seem dismayed that Haswell isn't some 25% IPC boost and a 10% max clock boost over previous architecture. That doesn't happen these days.
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Oh I totally agree. Always surprised how many here seem to think that Intel and AMD are purely there to make CPUs for them to play games and run benchmarks all day. I bet gaming performance hardly gets a mention in dev meetings. The GPU improvements are there mainly to cater to the CAD/Compute folks rather than gamers.

Playing games on CPUs has always been a side benefit.
 
I had been pretty set on haswell. The main game I play, World of Warcraft, is very CPU intensive, especially single-threaded performance. Now however I'm very tempted to just upgrade my 2500k to something like a 3770k instead.

The only thing that has me still leaning toward going haswell is that I want to get a new motherboard. I already have 2 GTX680s in SLI, I want a motherboard with a 3rd and maybe 4th slot so I can add more 680s instead of replacing what I already have. It doesn't make sense to get a new 1155 board at this point - so I'll probably go haswell.

I sure would have loved it if the performance increase was larger though.
 
Haswell is just a little disappointing, but the new Z87 motherboards have absolutely fantastic features that make up for it in my opinion.
 
After reading several reviews, I feel that the only fail as far as Haswell goes are the high temperatures and highly-variable overclocks. Only time will tell if this is worse or better overall than Ivy Bridge
 
So if Haswell is running hot, is that because Intel is running with the same bullshit thermal paste that they used for Ivy Bridge?
 
I'm leaning towards an i3770k, delidded. The mobo options are what will decide it for me. Currently sporting a q6600.
 
The temps are what concern me the most since I've been considering a small form factor build. I don't really care about the minimal performance gains from Ivy to Haswell since I'm still on Socket 775 and any upgrade I make is going to be huge. Looks like what I should have done was buy a 3770k about 4 months ago when I first started thinking about an upgrade. Oh well.
 
spudboy said:
The temps are what concern me the most since I've been considering a small form factor build. I don't really care about the minimal performance gains from Ivy to Haswell since I'm still on Socket 775 and any upgrade I make is going to be huge. Looks like what I should have done was buy a 3770k about 4 months ago when I first started thinking about an upgrade. Oh well.
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But if you live near a Microcenter, the closeout bargains on the 3770k and motherboards are amazing. So it WAS worth waiting :D

http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx

$275 for processor + motherboard is an impressive discount! It's $~50 less than Haswell.
 
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