Chrisroman
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Actually yes, the upgrade can be done as a fresh install. I've done three of them myself. Do a forum search to learn more.
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Windows 8 Sales Rate Higher Than Windows 7
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Actually yes, the upgrade can be done as a fresh install. I've done three of them myself. Do a forum search to learn more.
I can't speak to Windows 8 because all my upgrades have been done on machines that already had Windows 7.
I'm building another computer in the coming week, so I'm hoping it works that way (install 7 --> don't activate --> install 8 from scratch).
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I bought a Win 7 upgrade family pack (had both x86 & 64 disks) & clean installed 3 computers from it without issue. Furthermore if you create an iso from said upgrade disks & remove the ei.cfg file from the iso then burn the iso, you can install any version of Win 7, which I've also done.
n00b.
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There's gotta be some fudging going on somewhere.
Yeah, it's only reasonable to suggest sales might start off higher when you offer Apple like prices for upgrades to Windows 8 and you have Windows 8 sales counting under the banner of desktops, laptops, and the Surface.
It's the < 3 months sales and growth that you need to be concerned with.
It's the < 3 months sales and growth that you need to be concerned with.
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With Vista and 7. You new?
Yea, it's possible. Do some searching around and you'll find it. Same was as with 7.Brent_Justice
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I'm still gonna say it, Windows 8 offers me absolutely nothing new over Windows 7 that Windows 7 can't do, or that I need. I just don't understand jumping on it so quick when it offers nothing new or better.
I forgot win 8 OEM carries roughly FPP licensing as far as I can tell. So yes, it is fair to say MS is reacting to the market and discounting pretty steeply.
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Riding off Windows 7 good will
If people don't like Windows 8, word of mouth will get around
If people don't like Windows 8, word of mouth will get around
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If Win7 was sold as low as $15 then I would consider it a good indicator of acceptance. As it is sales numbers don't really equate to preference of 7 vs 8.
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It might also be that the market is now a little larger than it was previously and, because Windows 8 is sort of a polarizing product (meaning people seem more likely to have a strong emotional response one way or another about it than with previous versions) there's a compelling reason for the people who really want it and want to adopt early with lower costs. What matters more is the long-term sales than short term splash so we're still gonna hafta wait and see.
Of course, 98% of computer users get Windows with a new PC, so hardly matters how low the upgrade price is. And of course, we can knock windows for being too expensive then turn around and say they sell it cheaper because nobody wants it. Trolling MS is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it?
While I'm sure you'd have to do a clean install to downgrade from 7 to 8 (I don't know for sure), Microsoft has never invalidated old keys when a newer OS was upgraded over top of the original install.
yep, it's because of the $15 deal.
It could be a good experiment. Sell windows for $15, and see how many more people buy.
In the past, I bet hardly anyone bought windows as a standalone upgrade. Most of those 670 million Win7's come with new pc's.
It could be a good experiment. Sell windows for $15, and see how many more people buy.
In the past, I bet hardly anyone bought windows as a standalone upgrade. Most of those 670 million Win7's come with new pc's.
If these numbers hold up, Windows 8 could actually end up being a hit for Microsoft. Could all those Windows 8 naysayers end up with egg on their faces?
You neglected to mention that W8 comes bundled with it's own safety helmet...probably accounts for the spike in sales for people that need the extra protection.
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Actually wasn't there a free upgrade from Vista PCs for Windows 7?
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Mass market touch-first OS enables new breed of touch-based devices, that's the fundamental. If you are not willing to ride on that boat then I'm not sure who you will be riding with.
I really hate marketing fud like this. I laugh at just how fast the proponents were to jump on this garbage and say "See we told you win 8 was awesome!". How about a real comparison of say Gross revenue given that at minimum win 7 was 3 times more expensive and still is for that matter. I bet the numbers looks quite a bit different when you do apples to apples.
There were a ton of attempts at touch screen PC's. And there has been a ton of laptops that could flip around to a tablet and a ton of tablets with keyboards. They had their place, but people weren't beating down the doors to get them.
And although Metro Tiles might be flashier than a desktop full of icons, functionally not a huge enough difference to have prevented those previous attempts from taking off.
I bought it because it was only $39 for Win 8 Pro. Had it been much more, I would not have bought it at all.
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Windows 8 is VASTLY superior to prior versions of Windows on tablets and the hardware is likewise. Got an Atom based Samsung 500T and it is remarkable how much better this device runs compared to the ill fated HP Slate from two years ago. A full x86 Windows PC, at 1.65 lbs. without the keyboard, five touch points, Wacom pen digitizer, an updated Office that's decently touch enabled and an app store growing daily with more and more touch capable apps.
$10 price reduction from Win7 at Newegg
Windows 8 (32 or 64 bit) OEM $99.99
Windows 8 pro OEM $139.99
MS still thinks their OS is relevant.
It may not offer the casual user or most gamers much new, but there are definitely some great new features that many people do like. One of the biggest to me is client Hyper-V. I have been running 2008 R2 as my workstation OS for the Hyper-V role, but the good thing is with client Hyper-V I can once again put my computer to sleep.
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I like windows 8 and all but it doesn't work with my wireless adapter every time I try to connect to my wifi I get a BSD :'(
every time I try to connect to my wifi I get a BSD :'(
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Find newer drivers for your wifi adapter, just look it up via vendor and device ID. It's what i had to do to get an older like 5 6 year old adapter work for my parents windows 7 comp.I like windows 8 and all but it doesn't work with my wireless adapter
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That's almost competitive with my Samsung n150 netbook! It just needs a keyboard and a hinge that allows it to attach to a physical keyboard so it can hold its own screen up at whatever angle I want and it's halfway there. If it were price competitive with my netbook, which means losing about $450 from the sticker price, it'd be an awesome computer! (Well, we can give it $50 extra for the touchscreen hardware and the extra CPU core over the single core n450 Atom.)
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I have no idea why you try to compare things that just aren't equivalent. These new Clovertrail Atoms blow away those N series Atoms. And yes there is a folding keyboard dock for the 500T. Yes it's much more expensive but it's vastly superior in performance (try a 1080P streaming video on a HD display while running Office on the native display), much better screen IPS 1368x768 and not only a touch screen but Wacom pen digitizer. If you don't want or need the keyboard, say taking notes with the pen, it still gets around 10 hours of battery life and is a full pound lighter.
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Targeting the Lowest Common Denimonator wins again. *sigh*
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Denominator*.
Yes, and you have to remember people are very very stupid.
The Pet Rock. Steve Jobs was able to reason from this phenomena that he could sell anything to the American public. Ballmer is doing his best to catch up.
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I am really liking windows 8, computer boots faster, wakes up faster, and the power throttling for my a8 seems to work better than it did on windows 7.
once I figured out how to turn the computer off(lol) I have had Zero regrets.
the metro menu is just a big start menu, I don't really get the confusing or hate for it.
once I figured out how to turn the computer off(lol) I have had Zero regrets.
the metro menu is just a big start menu, I don't really get the confusing or hate for it.
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I'm sitting here with this Samsung 500, a damned Clovertrail Atom, hooked to an external monitor 1920x1200 monitor, running Metro IE, desktop IE, OneNote and Visual Studio for Windows 8 and writing this post with a pen on the tablet while watching Netflix on the external monitor. Say what you want to about Windows 8 but there's nothing lowest common denominator about it.
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"Blow away" is not a quantified term with any supporting numbers behind it. In fact, it's pretty well known that Clover Trail shares the same in-order CPU that the N-series Atoms used, but is manufactured on Intel's new tri-gate 22nm process. The dual core N-series exhibits very similar performance at the same clock speed. The only significant difference is in later generations of Atom CPUs is the inclusion of a somewhat more capable GPU which does help obscure some of the CPU weaknesses, but not all of them. Given the number of years difference in when the designs were made and advances, Atoms actually aren't really keeping pace with reasonable performance increase expectations.
Isn't if funny that you can take away a keyboard from a netbook platform, call it a tablet, triple the price, and people will sing about how great it is to be able to play a video and run and Office application at the same time on a computer? I'm pretty sure multitasking isn't a really new idea and both videos and office suites have been around for a while.
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lol I bought Windows 8 Pro OEM on Newegg. I was pissed when it didnt came in a DVD case. The disk was was in a flimsy cardboard envelope