I've never whined about what South Korea does. They impress me as a nation. I just wish we didn't have troops there.
I don't mean you you. I mean the plural you as in the [H] in general.
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I've never whined about what South Korea does. They impress me as a nation. I just wish we didn't have troops there.
I don't mean you you. I mean the plural you as in the [H] in general.
Please don't attribute attitudes or arguments to people that haven't made them. It's rather arrogant and pretentious, as well as a cheap debate tactic and time waster in a real discussion.
Eh, I've been here a rather long time and trust me, when South Korean fiber topic comes up, you see everyone wishing we had it here. It wasn't a debate anyways, but rather an sarcastic opinion.
Google launched Google Fiber last month. charging customers $70 a month for 1Gbps downloads and uploads, plus 1 terabyte of data storage.
America is the most generous and giving nation in the world, not only through foreign aid and relief packages to others countries through government initiatives, but in donations to charity by the private citizens of this great, if fading, republic.
So take your whiny pleas for "more" and chuck them out the window. We already give and give and give and all we hear is "it's not enough".
Of course it's not enough. The desire of many to have others subsidize their lifestyle will always outweigh the ability of others to do so.
^^ want this.Google launched Google Fiber last month. charging customers $70 a month for 1Gbps downloads and uploads, plus 1 terabyte of data storage.
Your reply sounds surprisingly Dickensian in nature.
Have you ever read Oliver Twist, or are you just unintentionally mimicking it?
Not sure the point. I wasn't debating who made it. I'm pretty sure it was a snow ball effect too as well so lay blame on the ones that got the ball rolling, not just the ones that kept pushing it (at least without mentioning all of them, at least).Over a third of that debt was established by our current president, and nearly another third by the last.
Sure thing, yet the economic inequality in this nation is at an all time high (or damn near close). So when you refer to generous citizens, are you referring to the top 400 people in this nation that are worth more than the bottom 150,000,000 people combined or the middle class which is eroding the most? Just wondering... Also, 93% percent of all income in 2010 supposedly went to the 1%. I guess leaving 7% for the rest of the 99% is very generous indeed. Now...apply policy at home to policy abroad and you have what really (like in the real real world) is going on in the world.I'm not happy about it, either, but that doesn't change the fact that the citizens of this nation are the most generous in the world. Is there a reason you're trying to deflect away from that?
As to "bully nation", I just mean something like this and this. Honestly though, I think Joe Rogan describes it better than I ever could. Or this, which just points out that people want to use their toys so they make up reasons to do so.Oh yeah...probably the same reason you're saying "Murica" is the biggest "bully nation", whatever the hell that means, in the history of nations.
Actually, I understand what you're trying to do here but "yes" it does. Last time I checked we've had ourselves involved (world policing) in most, if not all, of the other nations problems (that currently exist (Rome...lol)). Blowing every other assholes record out of the water. Matter a fact, the US has been provoking Iran lately too (One of many so please don't tell me how we're just fucking great and they're pure devil evil). However I wasn't talking about genocide (which wasn't global) that we later did get involved in, too. Another good example though is secretly funding jihadists (aka Afghanistan) to fight the soviets in the late 70's just to turn around and attack them all later on and call them terrorists...lol. Bully?Tell me, does that history include the Soviets, Nazis, Romans, Visigoths, etc? Nah. Of course it doesn't. History doesn't extend past 1991 for you, I'm guessing.
Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune. - Noam Chomsky
it's not an apple thread so you actually read my points without any preconceived notions about what you think I believeWow, I find myself agreeing with mope54...WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?
There are alot of arguments about people not getting High Speed internet in rural areas but there are a number of satellite internet companies that have coverage over almost the entire US that is considered high speed internet. So this whole argument about them not having the option is kind of bogus. HughesNet for example is available.
There are alot of arguments about people not getting High Speed internet in rural areas but there are a number of satellite internet companies that have coverage over almost the entire US that is considered high speed internet. So this whole argument about them not having the option is kind of bogus. HughesNet for example is available.
Your reply sounds surprisingly Dickensian in nature.
Have you ever read Oliver Twist, or are you just unintentionally mimicking it?
Sure thing, yet the economic inequality in this nation is at an all time high (or damn near close). So when you refer to generous citizens, are you referring to the top 400 people in this nation that are worth more than the bottom 150,000,000 people combined or the middle class which is eroding the most? Just wondering... Also, 93% percent of all income in 2010 supposedly went to the 1%. I guess leaving 7% for the rest of the 99% is very generous indeed. Now...apply policy at home to policy abroad and you have what really (like in the real real world) is going on in the world.
As to "bully nation", I just mean something like...
Actually, I understand what you're trying to do here but "yes" it does.
it's not an apple thread so you actually read my points without any preconceived notions about what you think I believe
secretly funding jihadists
LOL, right.
Wait, no that couldn't quite POSSIBLY be correct...
unfortunately, at this point you're likely convinced enough that all my apple related posts are going to be nonsensical so it's going to be difficult to approach them without finding things confirming that biasOh, I always read your Apple posts. It's just that half the time they are nonsense.
So not a word of that actually addresses charitable contributions given by people from all economic brackets. Why are you continuously refusing to acknowledge that? As to income...since when is income supposed to be equitable to all people in capitalist economies? I prefer equality of opportunity, not equality of results. You want to go out and make a million dollars? Go for it. You want to work very little and spend far more time on leisure activities? Go for it. Why should you both get equal results?
Show me how to make a million dollars in a year, or five, or ten, when starting from nothing (the 99% of us)? ROFL...you think you have the same opportunity as the elite, rofl, that's all. Okay, this too!I prefer equality of opportunity, not equality of results.
And again...why do you keep changing the subject away from what the citizens of the US, who give more to charity than the citizens of any other nation? Is it because you'd have to admit that the American system has actually been beneficial for its citizens, as well as most of the rest of the world? Or do you simply despise those with wealth?
Ah. The old anti-military anti-"imperialism" yarn. I already said we should withdraw our troops from South Korea, as well as from the rest of other countries. I wish Afghanistan were finished in the next minute, and we were engaging in no more wars(including the half a dozen drone wars Obama started but the anti-war movement is too chickenshit to face).
Next time, come up with an actual opinion instead of just sending me a bunch of links to parse on my own. Or, if you're unable to parse an opinion yourself, and are reduced to providing other people's viewpoints that you happen to agree with, just don't bother.
Yes, blah blah blah,
You do realize that the US has killed around a million innocent people in Iraq right? Or what about the thousands of innocent people killed in Afghanistan? Or the innocent people that were killed in Mexico by guns supplied by the US to the drug cartels there? Or the innocent people we've killed in drone attacks? Or the fact our country has been the biggest cause of a lot of foreign governments being overthrown? human, we make problems for everyone else, we start shit everywhere. Also, false-flag attacks didn't just happen with the Nazis.First of all, you specified "in the history of nations", while nations just in the century have slaughtered people on a scale that the United States could not even begin to imagine, from the Ottoman Empire to Cambodia to the Soviet Union to China, you have millions upon millions of people slaughtered by their own countries. But no...the US is the real criminal. I expect no less from someone who finishes up with a quote from one of the biggest apologists for criminal regimes. Your regurgitation is sad, pal. Very sad.
We're the world power by suppressing everyone else, nothing less, nothing more.
By the way, my apologies for not addressing this bit of nonsense, only spouted by those who really have no idea of Afghan history. The Taliban did not take control of Afghanistan until after the Soviet invasion, and drove out the people we actually aided against the Soviet incursion. Those exiles eventually became part of the Northern Alliance. You know...the non-jihadi Afghanis who were alongside us fighting the Taliban as early as the late 90s? They're now known as the United Front, and sadly, we've given up trying to help them. Obama's busy kissing Karzai's ass when his jihadi filth kill our soldiers, and talking about what a grand ally the Taliban will be. It's sickening.
Nearly as sickening as the ignorance of people who parrot scum like Chomsky
Yes. Nothing good led to us being a world power. America truly is the Great Satan.
Buh bye.
Yet I was saying exactly what the link said. Weird. I also never mentioned the Taliban. Also, I'm pretty sure neither of us know what the president is doing so pardon the request to stop talking out of your ass.
Noam says the truth so it makes you hate him.
America, we're the only good people in the world,
Anyone who gives a damn about world affairs has been following Obama's relationship with Karzai. You're apparently too ignorant to pay attention. As to you not saying the Taliban, you cited jihadis in Afghanistan. The Taliban are pro-jihadi and in league with jihadis. The people we aided in the 1979 invasion were predominantly people who were not jihadi, and ended up fighting the Taliban later.
If you knew a damn thing about Afghanistan, you would know this. You would also know where the Taliban loyalties lie, and that they are, for all intents and purposes, the jihadis.
LOL... pot meet kettle.You're a cultist. You don't even know the fundamentals of the issues you're discussing. You just repeat what one man tells you.
Last thing, stop keeping this thread OT. Get over it.
I said I was finished. You kept it going. You're a troll, and a very poor one.
I didn't keep it going, I was still typing my response when you had put that. hard concept to grasp...huh? Seriously, get over it already. You remind me of a little kid that won't shut up.
Disclaimer: the only reason I responded is to correct you but I can't believe I'm still taking the bait at this point.
Thanks for hijacking and completely taking this thread off topic. Bravo...
By the way, my apologies for not addressing this bit of nonsense, only spouted by those who really have no idea of Afghan history. The Taliban did not take control of Afghanistan until after the Soviet invasion, and drove out the people we actually aided against the Soviet incursion. Those exiles eventually became part of the Northern Alliance. You know...the non-jihadi Afghanis who were alongside us fighting the Taliban as early as the late 90s? They're now known as the United Front, and sadly, we've given up trying to help them. Obama's busy kissing Karzai's ass when his jihadi filth kill our soldiers, and talking about what a grand ally the Taliban will be. It's sickening.
Nearly as sickening as the ignorance of people who parrot scum like Chomsky but don't even know the difference between two warring groups of people in a nation.
Y'know, I know this is totally off-topic, but we're already at the free for all stage. You sound pretty bitter. In all likely-hood you know more about history then me. So I ask you: Just what is your view on the world? It seems as though you don't particularly have faith in your own country, let alone others. Not having a go, I'm just interested. On the one hand there are those who refuse to maintain ignorance at least to a certain degree while continuing their ineffectual daily life (probably like you), but on the other hand you have those who remain ignorant and do essentially the same thing. In the end, I wonder what the point of all this is. I don't fully expect to get an answer, after all I asked a remarkably broad question, but It's an interesting thought experiment nonetheless.
/Existential crisis (I'm joking... this isn't really why I asked)
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.
Paper money/Fiat currency is very very very different from any other commodity/resource. A fiat currency loses value no matter what as more linen/cotton with ink on it is printed and released into circulation (dilution of existing money). Gold and most other resources can't be replicated like this and retain fair value and compared to the fiat currency, become worth a lot more (fiat currency is worth a lot less).
Yes, humans only give value to what they feel is valuable (we all mostly understand this aka scarcity which paper money is not scarce...lol) but here's where track records matter, gold has a 6,000 year history of successful implementation. Fiat currencies have failed every single time ever used since the first time they were ever used all the way up to the US dollar that WILL collapse when the time is right. There is already another fiat currency in the works to takes it place (aka...another dilution scheme but on a much larger scale). Why? Because of the dilution of the money possible by those that control its creation and release. In our case the federal reserve.
Fiat currency is unsustainable and history and the future will solidify this judgment. Would you keep filling a barrel full with water by hand that I cut a hole into the bottom of on and since 1913 and was taking away any amounts of water that I deemed fit (your opinion meant nothing!) from your grandfather down to you and soon your sons and daughters? Maybe (sucks too), but majority of humans who cognitively understand the true specifics of the mechanism would revolt! The biggest problem is most people today aren't allowed to see the bottom of the barrel (through proper education) and don't understand there's even a hole present to begin with. They just think it is what it is (It's not taught in school like nationalism is).
I believe this quote is as much worth its weight in gold today as is it did when first spoken (retained its proper value).
So you want to trade one government-granted monopoly with a government-run monopoly?As a brit I have no stake in this but seriously, If you want internet throughout your country with fair pricing, then you need to cut the monopoly crap these private corporations have on your infrastructure. Say whatever you want about privatising other things but imho, your infrastructure should always be owned by the state,