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Are you getting tired of gaming?

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Like, not because you just find it boring now, but because there's just nothing good anymore.

I was talking to my cousin the other day (he's a hardcore gamer too) and we we're talking about how, in general, gaming is just getting so monotonous to the point where gaming in general just isn't fun anymore.

Will I ever give it up? Of course not...but now hearing that we're stuck with the PS3 and 360 for at least 2 more years makes me sick at my stomach due to the thought of having to put up with console ports made using 7 year old technology. I mean, I'm fucking ready for next gen shit! I just can't do Unreal 3 engine games any more. I'm done.

I can't do games that have been done 1000 times before (hello MW, BF, any other game) and BOY(!) I sure as shit am sick of killing terrorists!!! If I see another damn person shooting at me with a turban on their head I think I might just join them! No wonder they hate us so much...not only can't we stop killing them in real life but we can't stop doing it games either!

Yet in the end this is all we're getting in the coming future. I mean, sure there were some cool looking games at E3, but in the end its still all the same old shit. Hitman for example. Yeah its gotten back to its roots (did it ever leave them?) and yeah I'll probably play it, but didn't we already have a game like this before? Oh yeah, it was EVERY Hitman game before it. All these new games are either based on non-original ideas or are all just rehashes of the same shit we've been spoon fed for the past decade.

I don't know, I'm just getting to that point where I'm thinking of just giving up gaming for a couple years then coming back when there might actually be 2-3 games worth playing.

I mean, of all the games coming out the ONLY one I can think of that seems even remotely original is Dishonored. Maybe Beyond: Two Souls. Other than that...???

How do you feel about the current and future of gaming?
 
Won't new consoles just bring graphics updates? It's going to be the same games just slightly prettier...
 
If you can't find anything good it's your own fault for not looking. Everything you mentioned is a mainstream game. You're not going to find a huge amount of innovation in mainstream games. If you want new and unique look at indie games.
 
DeathPrincess said:
Won't new consoles just bring graphics updates? It's going to be the same games just slightly prettier...
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I thought about this but to me, ideally, next-gen will bring about better A.I., physics, larger more lively game worlds, etc.

So while it'll still be more of the same, I'm at least hoping it'll be a deeper more realistic more interactive more of the same!

I think of GTA4 as the perfect example...in its stock out of the box state its the same shit we've played before, but when you add graphics mods to make it near real life graphics, better car handling, better crash physics (as it wreck once and you got to bail), better car models, etc the game all of a sudden becomes a realized virtual world and becomes 10x more fun to fuck around in.

To me this is what next-gen will bring. Will games as a whole change? No. But the possibility of added realism will certainly make the way you interact with the games much more enjoyable. In my opinion of course.
 
When I was young I'd game for 18 hours straight, pulling 30 hour sprees when there was no school.

Today I can barely manage a 2 hour session unless a game is so immersive and fit for me that I don't fight with design flaws or how dumbed down things are.

So yeah, I'm tired of gaming.

Converted to just sitting on my ass and watching Youtube videos/twitch streams most of the day (Tech stuff, general gaming, LPs and e-sports tournaments) along with trying to improve my knowledge in varying subjects.
 
Derangel said:
If you can't find anything good it's your own fault for not looking. Everything you mentioned is a mainstream game. You're not going to find a huge amount of innovation in mainstream games. If you want new and unique look at indie games.
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See even most indie games are starting to become the same ole shit. Oh look! Another platformer! Oh look! Another stylized dumbed down or over complicating RPG! Oh look! Another puzzler just like the one before it with different art! Oh look! The same games with just lower production values!

Indie games are not the solution like most think they are. Most indie games are the same as the last.

Remember, just because a game is indie doesn't automatically = talent, originality, or something special.

Derangel...can you point me to an indie game that looks decent, plays decent, and has never been done before in some form or another? Every indie game is either copying Mario with "puzzles" or more violence or is copying some other game (Torchlight = Gauntlet Legends, etc). Only "indie" game I can even consider remotely original would be Minecraft. That is the only one. Everything else has already been done.
 
It's funny you should post this I was just gonna post something similar.

Is it just me or has the amount and variety of games especially AAA games gone down?

In the past even as late as the last generation PS2, Xbox, Gamecube it just seemed like there were a shit ton of games to play. Especially quirky offbeat stuff. More Adventure games, More survival horror more everything. Yeah sure there were tons of bad games but that's just a side effect.

Now one could make the excuse that a lot of that is starting to show up on PC and that's somewhat true but in general it's gone downhill.

It's not even opinion anymore Publishers who used to back any game with a pulse have really started tightening the strings and melting everything down to standard fair FPS/Action titles. Hell there's aren't even that many RPG's anymore and if there are they follow a strict over polished pattern.

I was in a pawn shop last week and picked up a few unusual Classic Xbox titles, Like Shenmue II, Men of war, Syberia, Freedom Fighters, Phantom dust. When I was done I went to the Xbox360/Ps3 wall. FPS, FPS, 3rd Person FPS, Crap japan game, Crap Japan game, FPS.

One could say "well wait a minute theres a fuckton of indie games on steam,PSN,XBLA" but really go look at all the Indie games out there. Now I'm a big proponent of Indie but here's the facts. Most Indies are short, one note, and or garbage. Seriously go look and be honest. There's a shooting star every once in a while but by and large there's just a dearth of crap to sift through. Right now there's like 5-10 clones of Audiosurf on steam. A game that came out 5 years ago.


And as for "Japanese crap games" even a couple famous developers have come out and said japan gaming is on a downslope. They've been remaking Final Fantasy 7 and Grandia over and over for 10 years now. I can definitively say I haven't seen a unique JRPG since Sega saturn/Dreamcast/PS1. Where's my Sequel to E.V.O, Shenmue and Seaman you fucks?

I've seen the gameplay for Re6. Now that Silent hill is completely dead and buried this is the one Survival horror game anyone can hope to see anytime soon and it's just as bad as RE5. Only now I get to spend the entire game looking at leons ass. Great...Fuck you give me the Tank Mode, Static pallete Resident evil 1 clones back please. Make a fucking sequel to Blue Stinger. Anything. please. and WHERE THE FUCK IS ETERNAL DARKNESS II?????


Well thats about it I've said my peace. Flame away.
 
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When I was young I'd game for 18 hours straight, pulling 30 hour sprees when there was no school.

Today I can barely manage a 2 hour session unless a game is so immersive and fit for me that I don't fight with design flaws or how dumbed down things are.

So yeah, I'm tired of gaming.

Converted to just sitting on my ass and watching Youtube videos/twitch streams most of the day (Tech stuff, general gaming, LPs and e-sports tournaments) along with trying to improve my knowledge in varying subjects.
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Same here man! I remember the days of the Playstation 1 and PS2...so many quality original games. I, like you, would find myself playing games for hours on end for days in a row...now, like you, I'm lucky if I can force myself through a couple hours before I just get bored.

And let me say to all of you its not because I'm just getting tired of gaming in general, thats not the case! I'm not outgrowing gaming, I'm just outgrowing playing the same shit over and over again with a different name or enemy being the only thing separating this game from the last from the last from the last etc...

Shit NEEDS to change! Even most of the "casual" gamers I know that only play games on their smartphones are getting sick of another Angry Birds, or another Infinity Blade...I mean, shit has got to be messed up if even casual gamers are already getting bored. Well, I can at least say that its not just me that thinks this way. Its becoming a much more widespread problem.
 
I haven't grown tired of gaming overall, but I do play less partly because there seems to be fewer must-play games that make me feel like spending 10 hours in a row playing it. Also, I'm overwhelmed by a huge backlog of games thanks to the Steam sales and GOG, so I never feel like I need to "get my money's worth" out of one game so much anymore.
 
Derangel said:
If you can't find anything good it's your own fault for not looking. Everything you mentioned is a mainstream game. You're not going to find a huge amount of innovation in mainstream games. If you want new and unique look at indie games.
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This.

The only "terrorist" I've been killing lately is from Counter Strike Source that I've been playing a little of. Other than that, it's been deadly creature looking things that I've been murdering in Killing Floor. :D




...well, getting murdered by I should say. :(
 
SockMan! said:
I haven't grown tired of gaming overall, but I do play less partly because there seems to be fewer must-play games that make me feel like spending 10 hours in a row playing it. Also, I'm overwhelmed by a huge backlog of games thanks to the Steam sales and GOG, so I never feel like I need to "get my money's worth" out of one game so much anymore.
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My thoughts exactly.

I only really buy one or two games a year now. There just aren't that many games I am interested in now days.

I usually just stick to sequels from games that I used to love playing.

I am eagerly awaiting for Rome Total War 2:cool:
 
JoeUser said:
See even most indie games are starting to become the same ole shit. Oh look! Another platformer! Oh look! Another stylized dumbed down or over complicating RPG! Oh look! Another puzzler just like the one before it with different art! Oh look! The same games with just lower production values!

Indie games are not the solution like most think they are. Most indie games are the same as the last.

Remember, just because a game is indie doesn't automatically = talent, originality, or something special.

Derangel...can you point me to an indie game that looks decent, plays decent, and has never been done before in some form or another? Every indie game is either copying Mario with "puzzles" or more violence or is copying some other game (Torchlight = Gauntlet Legends, etc). Only "indie" game I can even consider remotely original would be Minecraft. That is the only one. Everything else has already been done.
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The problem I'm seeing is that you're defining new as something 100% new. If that is all you want you might as well pack your bags and move along. Something completely new and genre defining is very rare. I hate it when people shout "make something new" like it's easy and any developer can make something band new at the drop of a hat. It doesn't work that way. It's like telling a writer to create a completely original plot despite the fact that every story has already been told.
 
Derangel said:
If you can't find anything good it's your own fault for not looking. Everything you mentioned is a mainstream game. You're not going to find a huge amount of innovation in mainstream games. If you want new and unique look at indie games.
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You have to be just as careful with indie games. Just like AAA games theres a few good ones, but the majority are terrible, usually unoriginal rip offs of older games done badly, full of repetition of the same boring thing over and over in the 1-3 hour campaign. The one redeeming feature is they're usually cheap, so a $20 terrible game isn't as bad as a $60 terrible game.

JoeUser said:
I thought about this but to me, ideally, next-gen will bring about better A.I., physics, larger more lively game worlds, etc.

So while it'll still be more of the same, I'm at least hoping it'll be a deeper more realistic more interactive more of the same!
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This has been something every console generation ever has supposed to have brought!

A.I. is still absolutely terrible. In every game the game pretty much just cheats to be more difficult, or unaturally cripples itself to be easier. Theres little difference when you look at generations of games. The scripted events might perhaps be more numerous, but it's still just a mindless happening with little variation or randomness.

But all this stuff takes effort and time. Better AI and physics don't really sell games, and take a looong time to do well. Better textures and AA types are much cheaper and easier. :D
 
Derangel said:
The problem I'm seeing is that you're defining new as something 100% new. If that is all you want you might as well pack your bags and move along. Something completely new and genre defining is very rare. I hate it when people shout "make something new" like it's easy and any developer can make something band new at the drop of a hat. It doesn't work that way. It's like telling a writer to create a completely original plot despite the fact that every story has already been told.
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Ok...point still being is that indie games still aren't the answer.

For every good indie game there's a good AAA game...problem being is that these a very few and very far between whether the game has a $30 million budget or $3,000 budget.

The fact is that on a whole games have just gone down hill. That's all there really is to it. Now you can go against or be for this as much as you want, but it doesn't make your argument any more or less valid.

Gaming as it stands right now is nothing but a formal shadow of its previous self. Like others have said, years ago original games were had very often! Never was there a down time, never did it get to the point of me or others getting bored. Now is a totally different story.
 
JoeUser said:
, years ago original games were had very often!
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*Facepalm.* You do realize you just completely pointed out the reason there aren't as many original games now right? Stop pretending it's easy to make something totally original.
 
Yeah, I've been pretty tired for over a decade now. The last "boom" I had with gaming was when I was still in junior high school (1999-2001), discovering emulators and playing some great classics I missed with them. It was the only time in my life where I would go to an emulator forum, read about what's "hot," play the game and feel completely immersed by it. No preconceived notions of the game, no clear awareness of the game developer, no professional or even amateur reviews, just the game title buzzing around. That's all I needed.

Since then, only 1-2 games at a time would hold my attention for a bit, but none inspired me the way the SNES era (and some PSX era) games did. It would require a bit of deep thought to explain why though.

Games these days, and more specifically, the discussion of games, are way too fucking political now. People talk about how the designers code an engine sloppily, how they dumb down things for consoles to maximize sales, how they cater to the "lowest common denominator," how some features were cut (like LAN) in order to fit a particular business model, how they make day 1 DLC to squeeze out extra cash and how <insert another catchy anti-game-developer phrase that can be mindlessly parroted on forums here>. It really is tiresome.
 
JoeUser said:
Like, not because you just find it boring now, but because there's just nothing good anymore.
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I think the two are closely related. I personally think the joy you get out of gaming depends massively on the attitude you go in with. If you go in with a pessimistic attitude of a worn out gamer who has played too many games and nothing is going to live up to the memories (either true or concocted) of previous games... then really you're gonna think there's nothing good anymore.

If you go in with an optimistic attitude and play each game for what it is and for it's merits, it's much easier to find "good" games. There's been a lot of recent games that have been slammed in reviews and on forums that I enjoyed and I think the main reason is because I went into the game WANTING to like it and not having an aneurysm over every little detail that didn't live up to my expectations.

The time I enjoyed gaming the most was when I was a kid in the early 90s, and really the games were simple and nothing special but because it was new and fancy, my imagination filled in a lot of the gaps.

How do you feel about the current and future of gaming?
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I'm worried in some ways, optimistic in others. I'm not all gloom and doom over consolisation and crap, gaming ebbs and flows and things will get popular and fade away, I can have fun despite the ebbs and flows.

In other ways the future of gaming worries me. I worry about publishers locking down content, breaking down games to make more money at the sacrifice of an immersive experience and forcing us to preorder just to get a full game. I'm worried we're going to be renting games instead of buying them, and having 10 different digital download clients to play the games we want and having to jump through hoops to play them.

I'm less worried about the games themselves as I'm worried about the way the industry operates in general.
 
Tudz said:
I think the two are closely related. I personally think the joy you get out of gaming depends massively on the attitude you go in with. If you go in with a pessimistic attitude of a worn out gamer who has played too many games and nothing is going to live up to the memories (either true or concocted) of previous games... then really you're gonna think there's nothing good anymore.

If you go in with an optimistic attitude and play each game for what it is and for it's merits, it's much easier to find "good" games. There's been a lot of recent games that have been slammed in reviews and on forums that I enjoyed and I think the main reason is because I went into the game WANTING to like it and not having an aneurysm over every little detail that didn't live up to my expectations.

The time I enjoyed gaming the most was when I was a kid in the early 90s, and really the games were simple and nothing special but because it was new and fancy, my imagination filled in a lot of the gaps.
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Valid point, but that's not the problem. There are a lot of "bad" games that I rather enjoyed.

My issue is not a bad attitude or pre-determined hate and negativity, its just that games as a whole just suck now. I mean, it doesn't matter what attitude you have going into say a Halo game...the game blows because Halo has been the same shit recycled for what, 6 games now? You can only do the same thing over and over again before it all just becomes a blur and no longer matters.

So, I guess if I went into a game with the thought mentality of a zombie you'd be spot on, but I just can't do that. My brain needs something new, something I haven't done 1000 times in the past.

Tudz said:
I'm worried in some ways, optimistic in others. I'm not all gloom and doom over consolisation and crap, gaming ebbs and flows and things will get popular and fade away, I can have fun despite the ebbs and flows.

In other ways the future of gaming worries me. I worry about publishers locking down content, breaking down games to make more money at the sacrifice of an immersive experience and forcing us to preorder just to get a full game. I'm worried we're going to be renting games instead of buying them, and having 10 different digital download clients to play the games we want and having to jump through hoops to play them.

I'm less worried about the games themselves as I'm worried about the way the industry operates in general.
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All this about the way games are being handled I completely agree on. Though I still think games themselves are still going way down hill and can't say I have the same level of optimism you do unfortunately. But yes you are right.

Its eventually going to get to the point where you can only play games an hour at a time before you have to buy additional DLC to just finish the SP part of the game!

"Thank you for playing the first chapter! Chapter 2 can be started at anytime. Please deposit $10! Don't forget to check out chapters 3-25! Also, please be sure to play chapter 2 in the next 10 minutes or you will have to deposit another $5. Also, please be sure you have a constant internet connection or you'll have to restart at chapter 1 and lose all progress and you money is non-refundable! Also make sure you have no software on your PC that may help piracy like a torrent client, virtual CD drive software, internet browser, or operating system. By playing this game you agree to also give up your first born child so that we can make him or her a slav...err...developer to help create a constant stream of DLC for you to purchase! Thank You for your cooperation - EA"
 
What ever happened to Jet Force Gemini? I was surprised they never made a second. That game is amazing!
 
I'm still playing Eve Online because there's just nothing good out there anymore that holds my attention for very long. Eve Online even gets boring, but what keeps me playing is the sense of community that you build up over time.

I played BF3 quite a bit when it first came out, but then they kept releasing packs that you basically have to buy in order to keep playing with all your friends, so I moved on.

So in response to the OP, am I bored of gaming? No, I'm a gamer at heart and always will be...I'm just having a hard time finding anything that stays fun.
 
There is a lot of monotonous junk out there because people are still buying it, unfortunately. With the economy being rough, big developers don't want to take risks on different ideas so they'll sell Call of Duty until people stop paying for it.

You mentioned console ports so I'm guessing you have a PC; the good news is that there are plenty of games out there that are different but they're going to probably be single player 5-10 hour games and probably won't have revolutionary graphics. I still play quite a few big-name games but I've also been buying indie games because they typically aren't cookie-cutter games and the gameplay varies quite a bit.

When you see a game mentioned that doesn't sound like a big-time game, instead of passing it over you may want to check it out because it might actually be good. Don't rate a game by how much hype it has or hasn't generated.

I recently played through Limbo (3 hours) and Braid (6 hours) and I'll eventually move on to Bastion and one of these days I'll finish Amnesia. These are all indie games that are quite good. I feel like perhaps now days you have to put forth a little more effort to find fun, unique games.
 
Not even close to getting tired. Ive been fascinated and addicted to video games since I first saw a Pac Man arcade game around 1980 and when I got my Atari 2600 in 1981 I was instantly addicted. My Commodore 64 in 1982 was what hooked me for life. Even when there are any good games coming out that I want, I still have plenty to keep me interested. I just turned 40 today and spent most of the day playing Dead Space 2 with my 3 year old sitting in my lap so he'll be an addict as well.

Yeah I dont think Ill ever get tired of gaming even if the quality of them goes to shit. Ill still have Doom, Mass Effect and Dead Space that Ill be playing from my wheelchair 40 years from now.
 
There are a lot of great games out in modern times, probably proportionally less as many great games as "back in the day", but they're still out there. With maybe the exception of sports games, game mechanics are still evolving and there's new mechanics being tried out left and right. Not all of them are great, but there are some interesting mechanics in games that can make some games worth playing even if the graphics/story/physics/characters/etc suck.

There's no way you could've played all the good games, the library is too vast for anyone to have played them all (unless you can play 24x7). There are great games for every genre both past and present, you just have to know what to look for.

You could just also be out growing video games, what other people find fun or even your past self would've found fun you might find to be utter shit because you've outgrown games.
 
Oh yes. Tired of the same bullshit games, I hardly buy anything and end up playing games I have played 1000+ hours in every day. Getting a little on the boring side.
 
Breath_of_the_Dying said:
You could just also be out growing video games, what other people find fun or even your past self would've found fun you might find to be utter shit because you've outgrown games.
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See I thought this too at one point until I started playing some older games. More recently (and this spans multiple months/consoles) I've played, beaten, and have had loads of fun with (in no particular order):

Shenmue
Sonic Adventures
Mirrors Edge
Omikron
Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
System Shock 2
Half-life 2 Series (with Cinematic Mod)
Metro 2033
Red Faction Guerrilla
Assassins Creed 2
Tomb Raider Anniversary
Batman: Arkyam City

Just to name a few...and these were all within this past year (hell, more like past 6-8 months)...so no, its definitely not outgrowing games...its the lack of quality games themselves.
 
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JoeUser said:
See I thought this too at one point until I started playing some older games. More recently (and this spans multiple months/consoles) I've played, beaten, and have had loads of fun with (in no particular order):

Shenmue
Sonic Adventures
Mirrors Edge
Omikron
Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
System Shock 2
Half-life 2 Series (with Cinematic Mod)
Metro 2033
Red Faction Guerrilla
Assassins Creed 2
Tomb Raider Anniversary
Batman: Arkyam City

Just to name a few...and these were all within this past year (hell, more like past 6-8 months)...so no, its definitely not outgrowing games...its the lack of quality games themselves.
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I dont see anything remarkable about some of games you mentioned that doesnt in part fall into what you were originally complaining about. I'm not saying those games are bad games, but some of them have little to no innovation to what was out before them.
 
Breath_of_the_Dying said:
I dont see anything remarkable about some of games you mentioned that doesnt in part fall into what you were originally complaining about. I'm not saying those games are bad games, but some of them have little to no innovation to what was out before them.
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Sure they do!

Polished near flawless gameplay, excellent single player focused stories, awesome remember-able characters, great graphics (for their times), and uniqueness (again, for their times).

Let me ask you, if they aren't better than most then can you point me in the direction of current games (with in the last year) that have all of these things?
 
I'm tired of all of the nickel-and-diming bullshit and online red-tape that comes with almost every major release now. The industry's biggest players seem very hostile to the consumer-base at the moment and until people stop defending bullshit business practices and stop supporting them with money, it will continue to worsen.
 
Last series I really enjoyed was Mass Effect, until the end of the 3rd game. CS and LoL are still good though
 
I agree completely with the OP, the industry in general is lacking innovative & fun games. I'm looking forward to like a few... Mechwarrior Online and maybe Guild Wars 2 - if either of those bomb there's really no reason to play games anymore. Might just sell the rig off or something. And yeah, it's not because I'm bored of GAMING it's because the GAMES themselves are horrible and mostly moneygrabs. It will only change when the masses stop buying it, and they're generally a few years behind the curve of people like us, so...
 
DeathPrincess said:
A.I. is still absolutely terrible. In every game the game pretty much just cheats to be more difficult, or unaturally cripples itself to be easier. Theres little difference when you look at generations of games. The scripted events might perhaps be more numerous, but it's still just a mindless happening with little variation or randomness.
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True, and many games use multiplayer as a substitute for an AI.
 
Half Life 2 was probably the pinnacle of gaming for me. I was really excited about it and started browsing Internet forums. Gears of War was the last new franchise I picked up, and even that was kind of run into the ground. Right now I'm continuing with existing franchises I like (Mario, Hitman, Tomb Raider, NHL, Max Payne, Ghost Recon, etc) but I'm not picking up any new ones. I just have a hard time getting excited about the new ones.

edit: I lied. Mirror's Edge is the last new franchise I picked up. I can't wait for Mirror's Edge 2!
 
I find myself getting bored of games quickly. From when my laptop could actually run a game, I would play a lot of it then realize that it just doesn't satisfy me. It is the same way with console gaming. I also feel like it costs more and more money to buy the items and equipment needed to be satisfied or feel like you are truly experiencing a game to the fullest.
 
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