sblantipodi
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They shifted from 16:10 to 16:9 => many users will shift from EIZO to other manufacturer
You don't discontinue something if it's selling...
the problem is that EIZO 30inch display are too expensive so they don't sell well but I really doubt the someone that works with PC will buy a 16:9.
16:9 is good for gaming and for movies only.
I hope that 16:10 will remain for 24" at least.
16:9 is good for gaming and for movies only.
brod
Please dont spread false information. 16:9 is standard for gaming and better for gaming. More field of view and no problems with letterbox and such.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_view_in_video_games
Only reason why 16:9 is better for gaming is because games nowadays use HOR+ scaling for some reason I dont quite understand. With Vert- FOV would be the same for 16:9 and 16:10, latter would just show more vertically because it has more pixels vertically, otherwise they would be exactly same.
16:10 does not have more pixels.
And secondly. As you say games are HOR+ and therefor 16:9 is better for games.
Hey please stop. We are talking about EIZOs, go playing around
Whoops! Sorry, didnt mean to hijack.
On topic, my guess is that since Eizo is not making their own panels (IIRC it was Samsung?) their availability is simply dropping?
Yes they do. 16:10 screens have more pixels vertically than their 16:9 counterpart both having equal horizontal resolution. 1920x1200 vs 1920x1080
But why is HOR+ dominant?
Your choice of counterparts are subjective and irrelevant.
16:9 and 16:10 are aspect ratios which has nothing to do with amount of pixels. It is simply the relation between width and height.
You are not correct, and you were told that before in the aspect ratio flame war thread. The 16:10 is physically taller than 16:9 thus has to have more pixels.Your choice of counterparts are subjective and irrelevant.
16:9 and 16:10 are aspect ratios which has nothing to do with amount of pixels. It is simply the relation between width and height.
Why? The screens become more and more wide and many people use eyfinity so Vert- is pretty much useless.
brod
Please dont spread false information. 16:9 is standard for gaming and better for gaming. More field of view and no problems with letterbox and such.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_view_in_video_games
Your choice of counterparts are subjective and irrelevant.
16:9 and 16:10 are aspect ratios which has nothing to do with amount of pixels. It is simply the relation between width and height.
Why? The screens become more and more wide and many people use eyfinity so Vert- is pretty much useless.
Hey please stop. We are talking about EIZOs, go playing around
That is a good point and correct.
We are talking about professional screens here generally made for photographers and web designers, not generally for gaming consoles, such as the Foris series, where the 16:9 aspect ratio is fine, though still not optimal for PC focused screens.
@Acer_Sheep Gawd, 4.6 Years
You do not know what you are talking about
Aspect ratio has nothing to do with size or amount of pixels.
It is simply the relation between width and height. Thats it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_aspect_ratio
what you are saying is true but you both are right.
you are right in teory, acer_sheep is right in practice.
every 16:9 panels in practice has less vertical pixels than comparable 16:10 panles so please stop, you are off topic.
@sblantipodi
Your reality has nothing to do with the real "reality". Thats also the reason why you cant understand Eizos decision here.
There are threads specifically for discussion about aspect ratios, use em.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1635939
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1607149&page=4
Which is why this whole situation is mindboggling. Why would Eizo, a known brand in professional monitors, is dropping 16:10 in favor of 16:9? There is no logical explanation that I can think of other than production of 16:10 is simply being dropped at Samsung OR someonen at Eizo is having a brainfart of epic proportions.
I am right both in theory and practice.
You are just messing up different resolutions with their aspect ratios. Understand. Aspect ratio is one thing. Resolution another. This is the reason why all your conclusions simply are not true, neither in theory or practice.
There could be a discontinuation of the 30" IPS panel. It wouldn't be shocking if it were the case. We'll see what happens to other 30" monitor providers.
This is a real concern right now, but if LG actually does come out with higher resolutions than 2560 x 1440 in a 16:9 and a larger physical size then it would not matter much. It is really all about the number of pixels for those of us that do more then gaming.
This is the most possible scenario. 2560x1440 and 2560x1600 is so close that there is no reason two continue both. We will most likely see 3840x2160 monitors soon.
I'd be fine with a QuadHD monitor if I didn't need to take out two car loans to afford one. ATM, the general difference in price between a 2560x1600 and 2560x1440 is negligible. When you're going to be paying close to $1000 (or more in Eizo's Case), $200 in either direction is nothing.
At this point though, I don't see a video standard that will bridge in between 2560x1600 and 3840x2160.
Many larger plasma/LCD TVs have cooling fans as well. Seems what actually has to be cooled are inverter components due to high power draw and additionally the cathode lamps in LCD producing additional heat.Well this leaves NEC the only high end player in the 30 inch 16:10 monitor segment. Seriously NEC monitors has always provided much better bang for the buck compared to Eizo's ridiculously priced stuff. I am surprised they didn't go under in this economic climate lol...
Eizo's 30 inchers are weird too - they have an active cooling fan in it and I mean WTF lol
I'm going to explain to you in the simpliest meaning, hoping you understand.@Acer_Sheep Gawd, 4.6 Years
You do not know what you are talking about
Aspect ratio has nothing to do with size or amount of pixels.
It is simply the relation between width and height. Thats it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_aspect_ratio
This is the most possible scenario. 2560x1440 and 2560x1600 is so close that there is no reason two continue both. We will most likely see 3840x2160 monitors soon.
16:10 does not have more pixels.
And secondly. As you say games are HOR+ and therefor 16:9 is better for games.
Many larger plasma/LCD TVs have cooling fans as well. Seems what actually has to be cooled are inverter components due to high power draw and additionally the cathode lamps in LCD producing additional heat.
I'm going to explain to you in the simpliest meaning, hoping you understand.
Imagine flat building with 10 rooms(windows) per floor, that one building has 4 floors(16:9) that means it has 40 windows(pixels). The building next to it also has 10 rooms in row, but it has 5 floors and than it has 50 rooms(16:10). Although their are similar in their size, the one is taller and can hold one complete floor of additional 10 rooms and thus has more space available. Because in your understanding although the building is higher by another floor it still has only 40 rooms just like the smaller building.
Which is why this whole situation is mindboggling. Why would Eizo, a known brand in professional monitors, is dropping 16:10 in favor of 16:9? There is no logical explanation that I can think of other than production of 16:10 is simply being dropped at Samsung OR someonen at Eizo is having a brainfart of epic proportions.
There are threads specifically for discussion about aspect ratios, use em.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1635939
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1607149&page=4
There could be a discontinuation of the 30" IPS panel. It wouldn't be shocking if it were the case. We'll see what happens to other 30" monitor providers.
No; I am talking about resolutions we have not seen yet, like 3840x2160 or whatever quad HD turns out to be. 2560x1440 is still inadequate for engineering and many other applications. You obviously do not have any experience with anything but gaming, so you do not see the need for the extra pixels. We do.