7970 "preview"

I'll be replacing 3 6970s, crossing fingers I can finally play Witcher 2 with Ubersampling
 
Poisoner said:
Fake fake fake. Sounds like abt didn't get a review card. Typical trash from a trashy site.
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agree, every leak has shown the stock clocks will be 1Ghz on the 7970 and the 7950 at 950mhz, now their saying its 925.. not to mention they are saying the 7990 will be 550, are you smoking crack? theres no fucking way the 7990 will be 550 dollars when the 7970's suppose to be in the 450-500 dollar range on release.
 
I don't know. After being an ATI/AMD guy for quite a while (since ditching NVIDIA after GF4), I think I may end up going back to NVIDIA. The AMD stuff is nice, but drivers/speeds/improvements are just lackluster. I have an aging 3800 GPU right now, and am upgrading very soon. It may be AMD if they prove to be good. Otherwise, I'm waiting it out for NVIDIA. 1080P here, for now, but I'd like to have the option to get a better display (or 3) and be able to use it right off the bat.
 
Brent_Justice said:
I spy, with my little eye, something red
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Brent probably has the card right now and is testing it as we speak.

I wonder what can we give Brent as a *cough* "gift" *cough* to tease us with something more concrete than these leaks. :D

Looks like we have two more days to find out what performance these cards give. I'm very anxious to know.
 
22nd it is then. Hell, I don't mind eating my words at all. In fact, please, someone, ANYONE prove me wrong. Honestly, yeah ... I'm sick of being let down and disappointed when it comes to my 3rd favorite hobby, my Pee-Cee.
 
It doesn't seem altogether worth it in some cases 25% increase of the 580? cmon for 550$ thats high and not to much perfomance.
 
TomGreen321 said:
You're crazy if you think if either company will make substantial strides when it comes to performance. They want people to buy every release. I highly doubt nVidia will offer a card that is all that much faster for the same price. They still haven't even fixed their current cards for the most part. Plenty of people still can't get proper GPU usage in big release games.
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and you are crazy if you think Nvidia is just going to make a gpu that is only 20-25% faster than the gtx580. thats all it would take to beat a 7970 IF the 25% improvement over the gtx580 rumor is true.
 
DenverBarr said:
It doesn't seem altogether worth it in some cases 25% increase of the 580? cmon for 550$ thats high and not to much perfomance.
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The $550 price rumor is for the dual-gpu 7990 (though that sounds freakishly low), not the 7970...which is what's been rumored as being 25% better performing than the 580. 7990 should be much much more powerful.
 
That's_Corporate said:
how do you know it's $550?
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some stores have the price already in their system. it could of course change though.


Parja said:
The $550 price rumor is for the dual-gpu 7990 (though that sounds freakishly low), not the 7970...which is what's been rumored as being 25% better performing than the 580. 7990 should be much much more powerful.
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NO, that was probably a typo and its the 7970 that supposedly will be priced at $550 or so. some Euro sites even have the 7970 priced at the equivalent of way more than that.
 
SixFootDuo said:
But of course, shitty performance, as to be expected. Bulldozer, now this.

This is one game I won't play with AMD, period. $550 dollars? Are the Out of TFM?

I wondered why everyone was fired, now I completely understand.

Looks like I'm keeping my 4.9Ghz and savings for Nvidia's new stuff this spring. See, I'm not like most of these other guys on here. I absolutely will not buy into mediocrity. I don't believe in the driver fairy to fix things. And, yes, where there is smoke, there is fire. Bulldozer, now this. People getting fired, ok, the circle of BS has now been completed. AMD, you lose.

See, Nvidia was where AMD is at now with Fermi. They are smart enough not to let this happen again. Anyone who is smart enough to wait on Nvidia's new cards will be rewarded with the better video card solution, performance, mark my words.
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u mad bro?


Seriously, have you even read the other reports of performance yet? Why don't you reserve your opinion until there is official data released. Until then, you're jumping the gun.
 
Well if it's any faster and not a buttload more then a 580 I'll be getting one, of course I don't buy a pc every year like some people do. I'm in need of a big time upgrade.
 
Ur_Mom said:
I don't know. After being an ATI/AMD guy for quite a while (since ditching NVIDIA after GF4), I think I may end up going back to NVIDIA. The AMD stuff is nice, but drivers/speeds/improvements are just lackluster. I have an aging 3800 GPU right now, and am upgrading very soon. It may be AMD if they prove to be good. Otherwise, I'm waiting it out for NVIDIA. 1080P here, for now, but I'd like to have the option to get a better display (or 3) and be able to use it right off the bat.
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My latest ATI/Nvidia sequence is as follows:
3870
4850 (twice as fast as 3870) + GTS250
GTX460 768MB + GTS250
6870(at least twice as fast as 4850 and faster than the GTX460 768MB).. ohh, but I have
2x 6870 because Visiontek replaced both of my refurb 4870x2 cards cause one was DOA.

The speed progression is just fine and VERY nice if you don't have to have every single "generation" of cards. True the 5xxx to 6xxx series wasn't a huge increase, but the power draw is a lot less and tesselation is a whole lot better.
 
This sounds disheartening to most but for me, all I care about is the type of improvements that will be noted in multi monitor scenarios. I want more horsepower in eyefinity, especially for battlefield 3. :)
 
Laffles said:
So completely worthless if you already have a 580 then. I have a feeling that 25% is going to drop dramatically when it's tested.
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How is it completely worthless? If you think its faster than GTX 580 (lets say 25% on average) why would that mean it has no worth? For someone to buy a GTX 580 they convinced themselves that the price premium was worth it over a GTX570 (or whatever AMD card). Yet you think that GTX 580 level of performance is the most one should want? You sound like a nut or a fanboi.




Parja said:
Wow, way to overreact to totally unsubstantiated information.

I, for one, would be quite happy with a 7970 if it's consistently ~25% faster than a GTX 580. Considering it should launch around $400, 25% faster than GTX 580 performance for $100 less ain't too shabby. Plus, considering it's got 3GB of memory, the performance boost should be even higher at 5760x1200.
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Yeah, that guy also sounded crazy (probably the most crazy in this thread). Nvidia might decide to adjust their pricing before or at the new AMD cards launch though. And street prices are what really matters.
 
Well Brent i hope its worth replacing my 3 6970s in Tri-Fire for 3 7970s! Im hoping for Ubersampling on Withcer 2, Is that to much to ask?
 
This thread brought out the trolls rather quickly. Specially Brent with his teasing :mad:
 
SixFootDuo said:
22nd it is then. Hell, I don't mind eating my words at all. In fact, please, someone, ANYONE prove me wrong. Honestly, yeah ... I'm sick of being let down and disappointed when it comes to my 3rd favorite hobby, my Pee-Cee.
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Prove you wrong about what? Your previous post hardly made any sense.
 
Brent_Justice said:
75 run-throughs, that's a lot to graph
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Droooool graphs.... : )....

Maybe it's just me but I do like a well thought out graph, or maybe it's the Math degree, I don't know. But I am looking forward to the [H] review regardless if the performance is there or not, because it's one site I can trust. Other than that I try not to post in these overly speculative threads.
 
So they are paper launching a card that competes with the 580? I have a feeling Kepler will be like Ivy Bridge vs Bulldozer. I figured something was up when they fired their big GPU guy.

This is probably their last gasp before they ditch the high end altogether and focus on fusion and the like.
 
PRIME1 said:
So they are paper launching a card that competes with the 580? I have a feeling Kepler will be like Ivy Bridge vs Bulldozer. I figured something was up when they fired their big GPU guy.

This is probably their last gasp before they ditch the high end altogether and focus on fusion and the like.
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except Ivy Bridge will use less than half the power of Bulldozer.
 
cannondale06 said:
except Ivy Bridge will use less than half the power of Bulldozer.
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Kepler is supposed to dramatically increase watt/performance. I guess we will have to see. Although given what they did with Tegra it's certainly possible.
 
20%-30% better than the 580 is a great improvement considering the 6970 is 10% slower than the 580.

I dont understand why some people are not satisified with that.

Hell Intel can only throw us a 15% improvement with SB-E and we can expect the same if not less with IvyBridge. :rolleyes:
 
EpsilonZer0 said:
20%-30% better than the 580 is a great improvement considering the 6970 is 10% slower than the 580.

I dont understand why some people are not satisified with that.

Hell Intel can only throw us a 15% improvement with SB-E and we can expect the same if not less with IvyBridge. :rolleyes:
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and what keeps you from maxing games out at 1920x1080 and above? gpus need to get much faster every generation or whats the point? it takes cpus a lot longer to become a noticeable limitation so they do not need a huge performance increase as often. 30-40% for all new generation of card over its predecessor(6970) is hardly great and on top of that its going to come at an even higher price point.
 
Yep.. the improvement is from Cayman so the card could be 50% faster then the HD6970 and that is impressive to me.
 
the biggest problem i think amd will be facing is that there is really no need to buy new video cards right now.

amd6000 and nvidia500 series are still fine with any game today, i see no logical reason to upgrade if you already own 6870/6950/6970 - 560ti/570/580
 
It's funny every single time a new card is about to be released there are always a number of random nobodys proclaiming that those cards won't be needed and that the product they currently have is enough.

Go back and read the threads from every video card generation launch, it never fails.
 
DualOwn said:
the biggest problem i think amd will be facing is that there is really no need to buy new video cards right now.

amd6000 and nvidia500 series are still fine with any game today, i see no logical reason to upgrade if you already own 6870/6950/6970 - 560ti/570/580
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eyefinity?

if 2 7970s can gimme the perf of 3 6970s I'll trade up.
 
I hope by next year the prices of 27 inch displays (1440P) go down prompting user to move from 1080P to 1440P thus utilizing these cards. I've read in this latest article which AMD claims that

" AMD is expecting a performance lead of somewhere between 25 and 60 percent compared to Nvidia's GTX 580 which is no small claim to make, especially when one of the games with 60 percent performance improvement happens to be Civilization 5 which isn't exactly beating Nvidia's hardware using current AMD graphics cards."
 
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